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malaise

(268,594 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:23 PM Jan 2013

Psssssssssssssst Public Threat Yeager can no longer legally carry a a handgun

http://www.wbir.com/news/article/249212/2/West-TN-man-loses-handgun-carry-permit-after-making-video-threats
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A West Tennessee man can no longer legally carry a a handgun, after he made threatening posts on the internet site YouTube.

The Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security announced Friday that they had suspended James Yeager's handgun carry permit.

Yeager, 42, of Camden, posted videos claiming he would "start killing people" if the Obama administration took executive action to pass gun control measures.

Officials said the decision to suspend Yeager's handgun carry permit was based on a "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public" (TCA 39-17-1352).

"The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public's safety. Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail," Commissioner Bill Gibbons said.
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Psssssssssssssst Public Threat Yeager can no longer legally carry a a handgun (Original Post) malaise Jan 2013 OP
I wonder if he now wants to murder the good folks at the TN Dept of Safety? tridim Jan 2013 #1
Hopefully he loses his Federal Firearms License... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #31
I think you can count on it Major Nikon Jan 2013 #33
I don't think that will stop him. Peaple who lose Driver's License still drive. SharonAnn Jan 2013 #155
laugh at it BUT my wife has worked for a right wing telemarketing company. She's seen the scripts diabeticman Jan 2013 #2
Could be. Joe sure helped sink McCain's ship, this nutjob could do the same for someone ... Scuba Jan 2013 #6
Well the idiots need an idiot leader and they now upaloopa Jan 2013 #8
I'm perfectly happy with this cretin leftynyc Jan 2013 #135
yep - they'll be defending his right to freely speechify terroristic threats elehhhhna Jan 2013 #12
Nonsense.. sendero Jan 2013 #27
If he were brown, with a Muslim surname, you can bet your hiney he'd be in custody, and the right... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #68
+1,000,000,000,000 VOX Jan 2013 #126
Actually, the righties would demand no trial for the brown Muslim and indefinite detention at GITMO. muntrv Jan 2013 #151
You give them too much credit... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #94
Who cares? These gun nuts are increasingly irrelevant to the arguments. They can rally around loons alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #53
+1,000 malaise Jan 2013 #59
Best quote of the day Shampoobra Jan 2013 #86
Amen! SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #129
Excellent, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2013 #3
Indeed! There's the flashpoint the gentleman has been waiting for! Dare I say, "Bring it on!"? Nay Jan 2013 #41
I dare him malaise Jan 2013 #71
the line in the sand has indeed been crossed, sir! frylock Jan 2013 #77
Apparently, a self-fulfilling prophecy. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #89
Finally... Rider3 Jan 2013 #4
The increased threats from him and his nutbag colleagues really have me nervous mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #5
I've been freaked about these guys since Medgar Evers was murdered at his own home. freshwest Jan 2013 #81
I fear one of these mental midgets is going to have one too many beers and.... Left Coast2020 Jan 2013 #154
Ha! They took his precious SirRevolutionary Jan 2013 #7
I love this wryter2000 Jan 2013 #9
Self-fulfilling prophecy is fulfilled. tanyev Jan 2013 #10
I can't wait to see this idiot's NEXT video!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2013 #11
Here malaise Jan 2013 #18
Now he's in his house with 100 guns and a doubled down bad temper. He doesn't care about a permit. Sunlei Jan 2013 #125
Agree and remove all other civil rights to make the point. nt jody Jan 2013 #13
To precisely what effect? LanternWaste Jan 2013 #22
You don't know the effect of removing a person's civil rights? Better read about Parks and King. nt jody Jan 2013 #25
He may still own his handgun... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #28
Good question. I don't know of any legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights. Do you? nt jody Jan 2013 #34
Then may I safely presume your direct suggestion of removing LanternWaste Jan 2013 #55
My post was for graduate-school level understanding. Apparently I overestimated the ability of some. jody Jan 2013 #58
Most likely yourself. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #62
That epic troll has left the building. Rex Jan 2013 #144
Pretty obnoxious leftynyc Jan 2013 #136
Your post earned you a grade of T. Rex Jan 2013 #143
No legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights? yardwork Jan 2013 #91
Read the OP. That's one way. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #105
Present a clear and present danger or threat to society, or any elected officials... VOX Jan 2013 #127
Ignore the troll. He's all butthurt because his terrorist buddy lost his Precious. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #67
Such Delicate Flowers... ellisonz Jan 2013 #88
That is a correct assessment. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #97
The cops are watching him trust me obama2terms Jan 2013 #87
Did Parks or King threaten to start shooting people? Tsiyu Jan 2013 #38
Love these False equivalances you people pull out of your asses. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #146
Forget "militia". What do you think the words "well regulated" mean? BlueStreak Jan 2013 #45
From DC v Heller, jody Jan 2013 #49
That seems to argue that we cannot ignore "militia". Nonetheless BlueStreak Jan 2013 #54
Heller is the law of the land at this time. Well regulated and militia are not needed because jody Jan 2013 #57
But the point is that clause includes the words "well regulated" BlueStreak Jan 2013 #107
That definition comports with founding-era sources. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #147
well regulated means, confiscate all his firearms. pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #120
Well, I'm not afraid of anything Wednesdays Jan 2013 #138
Well regulated militia. Quasimodem Jan 2013 #122
Nothing more dangerous than a bunch of constipated old men with loaded guns BlueStreak Jan 2013 #123
Awwwwww........you all upset that they took the terrorist's Precious????? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #66
See #13. Do you know what "Agree" means? nt jody Jan 2013 #69
We know what "passive-aggressive" means. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #93
It means you are treading carefully these days. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #117
But not carefully enough. Buh-bye. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #118
Are you actually suggesting he shld retain his "right" to bear arms after bettyellen Jan 2013 #78
Your questions are, of course, rhetorical. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #95
Your reply is a steaming pile of shit RainDog Jan 2013 #111
Won't anyone rid me of this troublesome troll? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #119
I'm always the last to know anything on DU RainDog Jan 2013 #121
This guy wants to replace Ted Nugent for being too smart. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #14
What happens ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #15
He can still keep them in his home or business Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #20
So ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #23
as I understand it, yes Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #24
In Ny they must be surrendered, the sheriff will come out... Historic NY Jan 2013 #116
It just keeps getting better. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #16
Federal Prison coming up malaise Jan 2013 #17
Now they need to pull his business licenses. Lars39 Jan 2013 #19
The Tennessee Homeland Security Dept Cha Jan 2013 #21
isn't he going to resist or is he staying indoors samsingh Jan 2013 #26
hopefully his customers will fire him Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #29
$100 bucks says Yeager isn't his real last name. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #30
Wow malaise Jan 2013 #32
Can't remember which thread it was. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #40
It is a misspelled version of Jeager riqster Jan 2013 #65
When is Texas going to pull Alex Jones CCW, he has made threats also. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #35
I hope people like him keep making youtube videos since they reveal themselves to be the dicks Politicub Jan 2013 #36
He'll be on Fox snooze crying and bitching along with Hannity SummerSnow Jan 2013 #37
As a guest? Naw, this guy's HOST material! Buns_of_Fire Jan 2013 #61
just make sure that they are both fully armed. grantcart Jan 2013 #82
He said he'd start killing people if the gov took his guns... Well, look what just happened. livefromsac Jan 2013 #39
Welcome to DU, livefromsac! calimary Jan 2013 #43
Good point from the newbie! Welcome! glinda Jan 2013 #75
They took his permit not his guns malaise Jan 2013 #84
He can still fight without his arms. Unless he was rendered toothless, no need to give up now. freshwest Jan 2013 #141
Is that the jackass with the tattoos looking into his little camera and making murderous threats? calimary Jan 2013 #42
Yep malaise Jan 2013 #44
That man is a PUBLIC MENACE!!!! calimary Jan 2013 #112
That is awesome (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #46
Wait - they took his permit. That's just a piece of paper. They need to confiscate his firearms Flatulo Jan 2013 #47
These idiots have some fantasy wild West views of life malaise Jan 2013 #50
Well if it's martyrdom he seeks, I hope he finds it without Flatulo Jan 2013 #98
Now they need to charge him with making a murderous threat RomneyLies Jan 2013 #48
They will leave him to self destruct malaise Jan 2013 #51
He's threatened the Government and claims to have put together an army. A Simple Game Jan 2013 #99
Couldn't have happened to ... 99Forever Jan 2013 #52
oh no! now the criminals know they can rob him! chuckrocks Jan 2013 #56
He should be arrested for making a threat to do bodily harm to people still_one Jan 2013 #60
Have they confiscated his arsenal? redwitch Jan 2013 #63
thanks for posting this. 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #64
Bwhahaha, what a doofus davesliberal1977_gg Jan 2013 #70
state's rights, asshole! PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #72
ROFLMAO Solly Mack Jan 2013 #73
Psssssssssssssst defacto7 Jan 2013 #74
this won't sit well with his formidable army frylock Jan 2013 #76
DUzy malaise Jan 2013 #83
We now need to see the same happen for Alex Jones. Democratopia Jan 2013 #79
Foiled by laws upheld by the Bush Administration. Fearless Jan 2013 #80
ROFLMAO !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #85
The guy "self-registered" on the mental health no-carry list. They just MIGHT WheelWalker Jan 2013 #90
Go to his Youtube channel Canoe52 Jan 2013 #92
LOL malaise Jan 2013 #101
Awwwwwwwww Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #96
Perfect! Wasn't he supposed to be on Ed tonight? Was he? babylonsister Jan 2013 #100
I didn't know that malaise Jan 2013 #104
Yep. Ed mentioned his appearance last night. I guess babylonsister Jan 2013 #108
Ed said he canceled due to advice from his attorney. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2013 #110
What will he do, without his dick? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #102
Looks like he, errrr...shot himself in the foot. Snarkoleptic Jan 2013 #103
This sort of thing should be happening on a regular basis Canuckistanian Jan 2013 #106
There's a huge controversy regarding this prick and him being a COWARD RomneyLies Jan 2013 #109
Oh Dear malaise Jan 2013 #113
Might have something to do with the fact that his paranoid rantings come off as the rantings of a RomneyLies Jan 2013 #115
Well you can't really blame the dude for that. geomon666 Jan 2013 #114
I wonder what handle he posts under down in the Gungeon? As a "pro gun progressive,"* of course... apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #124
Hahahahahahahaha!!! nt tblue37 Jan 2013 #128
Not like this hasn't happened in Tennessee before. watoos Jan 2013 #130
Good! That will keep him away from guns. xoom Jan 2013 #131
Well, no, he just can't legally carry them anymore Recursion Jan 2013 #132
Fur sure. xoom Jan 2013 #133
Republican Family Values Berlum Jan 2013 #134
If he lost a Concealed carry, then he just straps a cowboy holster on.......... kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #137
Guy sees holes in the world & calls em danger, but the only holes are in his head toby jo Jan 2013 #139
Pardon my ad hominem but... whoisthatis Jan 2013 #140
A great deal of the discussion sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #142
Well I think he John2 Jan 2013 #145
Psssssssssssssst, if he were not white he would be in jail Autumn Jan 2013 #148
Valid point n/t malaise Jan 2013 #149
the irony is great arely staircase Jan 2013 #150
That'll show him! blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #152
Yeager give white supremacist code signal? r2p Jan 2013 #153

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
31. Hopefully he loses his Federal Firearms License...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jan 2013

So he can no longer sell firearms...We will see.

Major Nikon

(36,817 posts)
33. I think you can count on it
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013

I also think you can count on him completely disregarding their edict. Gun idiotology obviously trumps the rules of civilized society for people like him.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
2. laugh at it BUT my wife has worked for a right wing telemarketing company. She's seen the scripts
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jan 2013

for the NRA and the ACLJ (Jay Secalow --or however he spells his name) This guy will be the new rallying point.


Don't get me wrong the guy deserved that and a little more BUT this guy is the next "Joe the Plummer" for the right.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. Could be. Joe sure helped sink McCain's ship, this nutjob could do the same for someone ...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jan 2013

... more likely, the R's will run from him. They can smell the change in public opinion.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
135. I'm perfectly happy with this cretin
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jan 2013

to be the face of "gun rights". He's a lunatic and that rant on you tube will get even more attention and I'm guessing the independents will be as horrified as we all are at his lunacy.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
12. yep - they'll be defending his right to freely speechify terroristic threats
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013

and they'll lose to their patriotact terroristic threats legislation


deliciously ironic

sendero

(28,552 posts)
27. Nonsense..
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

... even the right wing bullshit-o-sphere isn't that stupid. The guy made terroristic threats. He is lucky he is not in jail, much less a poster boy for gun control.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
68. If he were brown, with a Muslim surname, you can bet your hiney he'd be in custody, and the right...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

wing noise machine & Peter King would be calling on the DOJ to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. They are world class hypocrites, and giant phoneys.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
151. Actually, the righties would demand no trial for the brown Muslim and indefinite detention at GITMO.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jan 2013
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
94. You give them too much credit...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jan 2013

I guarantee one of my coworkers will be saying on Monday that Obama did this.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
53. Who cares? These gun nuts are increasingly irrelevant to the arguments. They can rally around loons
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jan 2013

til doomsday. Doesn't matter a whit. We're not having conversations with these idiots anymore. We're simply imposing public health laws on them. They can eat the penalties for noncompliance.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
86. Best quote of the day
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jan 2013

"We're not having conversations with these idiots anymore. We're simply imposing public health laws on them."

SouthernDonkey

(256 posts)
129. Amen!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:12 AM
Jan 2013

I've quit arguing with right wing idiot friends of friends on facebutt when they go there with the bullshit! I just shut up and post a little smirky face and leave it at that. I know it has to chap their ass, because they know we have the majority now and don't really give two shits about their blabbering rants!

Rider3

(919 posts)
4. Finally...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jan 2013

Nice to see some action taken on a person who, not only is a bully, but is clearly a threat to society's safety. Guy's got a loose screw in there someplace.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
5. The increased threats from him and his nutbag colleagues really have me nervous
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jan 2013

for the President. All of this meltdown because of fabricated fears that the government is going to knock on their doors and take away their guns. I am tempted to get a gun because they won't put theirs down.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
81. I've been freaked about these guys since Medgar Evers was murdered at his own home.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013


He had come home to announce the good news he'd heard that morning:

In the early morning of June 12, 1963, just hours after President John F. Kennedy's speech on national television in support of civil rights, Evers pulled into his driveway after returning from a meeting with NAACP lawyers. Emerging from his car and carrying NAACP T-shirts that read "Jim Crow Must Go," Evers was struck in the back with a bullet fired from an Enfield 1917 rifle; it ricocheted into his home. He staggered 9 meters (30 feet) before collapsing. He died at a local hospital 50 minutes later.[11]

Mourned nationally, Evers was buried on June 19 in Arlington National Cemetery, where he received full military honors before a crowd of more than 3,000.

On June 21, 1963, Byron De La Beckwith, a fertilizer salesman and member of the White Citizens' Council (and later of the Ku Klux Klan), was arrested for Evers' murder.[12]

District Attorney and future governor Bill Waller prosecuted De La Beckwith. Juries composed solely of white men twice that year deadlocked on De La Beckwith's guilt.

In 1994, 30 years after the two previous trials had failed to reach a verdict, De La Beckwith was brought to trial based on new evidence. Bobby DeLaughter was the prosecutor. During the trial, the body of Evers was exhumed from his grave for autopsy.[3] De La Beckwith was convicted of murder on February 5, 1994, after having lived as a free man for much of the three decades following the killing (he was imprisoned on an unrelated charge from 1977 to 1980). De La Beckwith appealed unsuccessfully, and died at age 80 in prison in January 2001.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medgar_Evers

Now his widow will speak at the Inauguration this year. It's way past time we got past this regressive way of thinking. They won't go down without kicking and screaming, though. I also fear for our president and our nation.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
154. I fear one of these mental midgets is going to have one too many beers and....
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:07 AM
Jan 2013

do something stupid. This guy is not the only one that is about to go over the edge. Sad that they can't find something else to stroke instead of their 9mm.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
7. Ha! They took his precious
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jan 2013

"Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention", they forgot to add that it's word salad and falls under the category of incoherent internet tough guy rambling.

Let's see his imaginary text-messaging tough guy warriors respond. Gentlemen, man the smart phones to combat this gub'ment intrusion!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
125. Now he's in his house with 100 guns and a doubled down bad temper. He doesn't care about a permit.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jan 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. To precisely what effect?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jan 2013

"nd remove all other civil rights to make the point..."

To precisely what effect?

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
25. You don't know the effect of removing a person's civil rights? Better read about Parks and King. nt
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jan 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. He may still own his handgun...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

He may still own his handgun...

But again, to what effect do you believe he should have all civil rights removed (regardless of what you think I may or may not need to read)

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
34. Good question. I don't know of any legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights. Do you? nt
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
55. Then may I safely presume your direct suggestion of removing
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jan 2013

" I don't know of any legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights..."

Then may we safely presume your direct suggestion of removing all his civil rights was merely grade-school petulance on your part? Or possibly you're attempting to make a vague and diaphanous point with to no great effect or reason...?

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
58. My post was for graduate-school level understanding. Apparently I overestimated the ability of some.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jan 2013
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
62. Most likely yourself.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

"Apparently I overestimated the ability of some...."

Most likely yourself. Petulance is rarely graduate level, more often seen in 4th graders. Bless your little heart...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
144. That epic troll has left the building.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jan 2013

Evidently the admins DO pay attention to what people type on their site.

yardwork

(61,531 posts)
91. No legal way to deny just one of a person's civil rights?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jan 2013

Yes, that happens all the time. People get their licenses revoked for drunk driving, for instance, but they retain their other rights. People convicted of felonies lose the right to vote and a few other rights but the Bill of Rights still applies to them.

Are you suggesting that the state of Tennessee illegally removed this man's right to own a weapon?

NYC Liberal

(20,134 posts)
105. Read the OP. That's one way.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jan 2013

Ever heard of gag orders that limit a person's freedom of speech?

Or restraining orders that limit a person's freedom to travel?

Or an involuntary psychiatric hold?

Or a quarantine?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
127. Present a clear and present danger or threat to society, or any elected officials...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:06 AM
Jan 2013

And this guy, or anyone like him, forfeits the kind of "civil rights" to which you refer.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
38. Did Parks or King threaten to start shooting people?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

What part about "threatening to shoot people" is hard for you to comprehend?

Threatened: said he would do it
Shooting: aiming a gun and firing at other humans
People: the humans he aims to start firing bullets at

Did Parks or King threaten this?

Love these False equivalances you people pull out of your asses.




 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
146. Love these False equivalances you people pull out of your asses.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jan 2013

It's a cult. The gun worshiping cult.

All logic and common sense fly out the window and are replaced by over-emotional baloney that doesn't exist. Y'know like the world ending on Dec 21st. Or the spaceship that built the pyramids is coming hiding behind a comet. It's just the same.

People not swayed by ridiculous crap must clean up the cult's mess... again.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
45. Forget "militia". What do you think the words "well regulated" mean?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jan 2013

Even if we can't agree on exactly what the word "militia" means in the 2nd amendment, can somebody please explain why they would have included the words "well regulated" if they did not mean laws and government action?

What else could those words possibly mean?

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
49. From DC v Heller,
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jan 2013
a. “Well-Regulated Militia.” In United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, 179 (1939) , we explained that “the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.” That definition comports with founding-era sources. See, e.g., Webster (“The militia of a country are the able bodied men organized into companies, regiments and brigades … and required by law to attend military exercises on certain days only, but at other times left to pursue their usual occupations”); The Federalist No. 46, pp. 329, 334 (B. Wright ed. 1961) (J. Madison) (“near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands”); Letter to Destutt de Tracy (Jan. 26, 1811), in The Portable Thomas Jefferson 520, 524 (M. Peterson ed. 1975) (“[T]he militia of the State, that is to say, of every man in it able to bear arms”).

Petitioners take a seemingly narrower view of the militia, stating that “[m]ilitias are the state- and congressionally-regulated military forces described in the Militia Clauses (art. I, §8, cls. 15–16).” Brief for Petitioners 12. Although we agree with petitioners’ interpretive assumption that “militia” means the same thing in Article I and the Second Amendment , we believe that petitioners identify the wrong thing, namely, the organized militia. Unlike armies and navies, which Congress is given the power to create (“to raise … Armies”; “to provide … a Navy,” Art. I, §8, cls. 12–13), the militia is assumed by Article I already to be in existence. Congress is given the power to “provide for calling forth the militia,” §8, cl. 15; and the power not to create, but to “organiz[e]” it—and not to organize “a” militia, which is what one would expect if the militia were to be a federal creation, but to organize “the” militia, connoting a body already in existence, ibid., cl. 16. This is fully consistent with the ordinary definition of the militia as all able-bodied men. From that pool, Congress has plenary power to organize the units that will make up an effective fighting force. That is what Congress did in the first militia Act, which specified that “each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective states, resident therein, who is or shall be of the age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia.” Act of May 8, 1792, 1 Stat. 271. To be sure, Congress need not conscript every able-bodied man into the militia, because nothing in Article I suggests that in exercising its power to organize, discipline, and arm the militia, Congress must focus upon the entire body. Although the militia consists of all able-bodied men, the federally organized militia may consist of a subset of them.

Finally, the adjective “well-regulated” implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training. See Johnson 1619 (“Regulate”: “To adjust by rule or method”); Rawle 121–122; cf. Va. Declaration of Rights §13 (1776), in 7 Thorpe 3812, 3814 (referring to “a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms”).
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
54. That seems to argue that we cannot ignore "militia". Nonetheless
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jan 2013

your citation concludes with, "the adjective 'well-regulated' implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."

So again, I ask. What does the word "imposition" mean if it does not involve laws and government action?

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
57. Heller is the law of the land at this time. Well regulated and militia are not needed because
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

Congress has all the authority it needs regarding militia in Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 & 16 of our constitution.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
107. But the point is that clause includes the words "well regulated"
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jan 2013

What meaning could that possibly have other than government enforcement?

You seem to arguing that government doesn't have the responsibility to regulate guns, yet it is right there in plain English. And I see nothing in the Heller quote that indicates otherwise.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
147. That definition comports with founding-era sources.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

OK....if you're gonna use the 18th century definition of "well regulated", you must use the 18th century definition of "arms" as well. We cannot define the 1st part of the sentence one way and the last part another.

So teach those boys how to load a flintlock. You have the right to own flintlocks.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
78. Are you actually suggesting he shld retain his "right" to bear arms after
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jan 2013

What he did?
You really think everyone should have guns no matter what they say or do?

That seems to be the point you're attempting to make.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
111. Your reply is a steaming pile of shit
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jan 2013

The jump from enforcing the law to removing civil rights is mighty large for most folks.

but not for you.

and THEN you have the gall to put the racist anti-Obama nutters in the same category as people who, in the last century, fought for civil rights.

You need to stop with this false equivalency that rightly chills this neo-confederate hate bullshit that contain actual threats of physical violence and counter revolution with civil rights.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
121. I'm always the last to know anything on DU
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

I can't keep up and I'm not here often enough to wallow in the metamud

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. What happens ...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jan 2013

to the weapons that a previously lawful possessor has his/her priviledge suspended/revoked. Does law enforcement accept that the suspendee will just promise not to touch the now prohibited weapons?

Anyone know?

It seems that he is about to get his wish.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
20. He can still keep them in his home or business
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jan 2013

this is just his ability to walk around with a pistol on him

malaise

(268,594 posts)
17. Federal Prison coming up
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jan 2013

Won't be long.
The problem with these stupid fucks is that they do not read

Cha

(296,689 posts)
21. The Tennessee Homeland Security Dept
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jan 2013

realizes that threats like this cannot be ignored. They are not just warning signs of instability.. they're "In Your Face, MOs.. I'm gonna get you with my stupid guns!"

I'm glad James Yaeger is such a Stupid Stupid man.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
29. hopefully his customers will fire him
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jan 2013

since I'm not sure having someone that unstable is a good business decision.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
30. $100 bucks says Yeager isn't his real last name.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jan 2013

In another thread a poster mentioned that "Yeager" is a common alias of while supremacists.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
35. When is Texas going to pull Alex Jones CCW, he has made threats also.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

This would be a good time since the nuts are coming out themselves. They have no one to blame for their stupid mouths but themselves.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
36. I hope people like him keep making youtube videos since they reveal themselves to be the dicks
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

they are.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
37. He'll be on Fox snooze crying and bitching along with Hannity
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

He'll file a lawsuit ...bitch some more. Then he'll get a call from Ted Nugent ...both will bitch some more.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
82. just make sure that they are both fully armed.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013


Put them on late in the afternoon and keep their schedule packed during the day so they don't have a chance to eat.


Then have the producer talking in each guys ear provoking each one.


Would be better than pay per view.

calimary

(81,058 posts)
43. Welcome to DU, livefromsac!
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:13 PM
Jan 2013

VERY happy to see this nutcase dis-armed. Not that he'd stay that way. I'll bet the first thing he does after they yank his license is to go out and get MORE guns illegally. There's no stopping these people, short of long-term incarceration.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
141. He can still fight without his arms. Unless he was rendered toothless, no need to give up now.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jan 2013





I'll never quit posting that skit.


calimary

(81,058 posts)
42. Is that the jackass with the tattoos looking into his little camera and making murderous threats?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jan 2013

YET ANOTHER example of unhinged delusional assholes with anger issues - who have NO BUSINESS anywhere NEAR guns of any kind!

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
47. Wait - they took his permit. That's just a piece of paper. They need to confiscate his firearms
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jan 2013

as well.

Taking his license is meaningless if he decides to go out in a blaze of glory. What, is he going to fear the penalty for unlawful possession while on his way to commit murder?

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
48. Now they need to charge him with making a murderous threat
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

Convict his ass and insure he can never legally own a gun again in his life.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
99. He's threatened the Government and claims to have put together an army.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jan 2013

That must merit some kind of charge. Insurrection?

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
64. thanks for posting this.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jan 2013

I was hoping we'd hear something like this about this guy. I wish I could of seen him when he was told. lol

 
70. Bwhahaha, what a doofus
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

Perhaps this will teach him a lesson, about keeping his big mouth shut, when it comes to saying such things. Typical RW gun nut maniac.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
74. Psssssssssssssst
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jan 2013

...but he doesn't care..... and people like him probably don't care either.

But I'm glad the Tennessee Department of Safety did it. It's a start but we have a long way to go.

 

Democratopia

(552 posts)
79. We now need to see the same happen for Alex Jones.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:34 PM
Jan 2013

Jones should also have to undergo a mental health assessment to see if he should be institutionalized in order to protect society.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
92. Go to his Youtube channel
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jan 2013

most of the comments left there are just slamming him for being such an a**hole.



In one of his videos he says that Piers Morgan was the one who made a threat to Alex Jones... sorry dude you need to figure out which planet you are on, cause you for sure ain't on this one...

babylonsister

(171,024 posts)
100. Perfect! Wasn't he supposed to be on Ed tonight? Was he?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jan 2013

I just got home and haven't seen news all day.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
106. This sort of thing should be happening on a regular basis
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:13 PM
Jan 2013

If the NSA can read everything we we post, then permits should be revoked based on what they read.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
109. There's a huge controversy regarding this prick and him being a COWARD
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jan 2013

Seems when he worked with Edinburgh Risk and Security Management (ESRM) in IRaq, he demonstrated COWARDICE UNDER FIRE:

http://mountainrunner.us/2006/01/edinburgh_risk_/#.UPDEt_KGe3M

So take that as you will...

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
115. Might have something to do with the fact that his paranoid rantings come off as the rantings of a
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jan 2013

COWARD?

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
124. I wonder what handle he posts under down in the Gungeon? As a "pro gun progressive,"* of course...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:07 AM
Jan 2013

*( )

This is actually how the vast majority of those who feel they can't venture to Wal Mart without a pistol perched in their pants no doubt fantasize about acting out like: they are simply itching to get into a shooting war with other Americans, this gump just happened to be stupid enough to verbalize it on YouTube.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
130. Not like this hasn't happened in Tennessee before.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:43 AM
Jan 2013

The guy who walked into a church and started shooting because he couldn't get near the top Libruls, so he went after the people who voted for the Libruls.
Yeah, all of the people I know who own assault rifles are pretty paranoid.
Also, are people sane who hide loaded guns throughout their house, you tell me?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
132. Well, no, he just can't legally carry them anymore
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jan 2013

Since he's in Tennessee he won't have to surrender his handguns, though, and I don't think anywhere requires a license to own a rifle.

Still, I like seeing him taken down a peg.

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
137. If he lost a Concealed carry, then he just straps a cowboy holster on..........
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jan 2013

....he just can't hide it. Also I am not sure if it is allowed to be loaded or accessible when driving.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
142. A great deal of the discussion
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jan 2013

on this thread has dealt with what the suspension of civil rights means. Whatever else it means, it most definitely means the de facto suspension of Habeas Corpus and the authority to commit the extrajudicial murder of American citizens by their own government.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
145. Well I think he
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jan 2013

was a lot of hot air. Let's see how far he think he can get by beating his chest at the Government? They can put him in chains for all I care. Let him beat his chest behind bars.

Autumn

(44,958 posts)
148. Psssssssssssssst, if he were not white he would be in jail
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jan 2013

that's IMO a real fucking problem. K/R at least the ass can't "legally" carry a a handgun. But I bet he will.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
150. the irony is great
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jan 2013

guy complains (frighteningly) about an imaginary threat to his ability to carry a gun. this causes him to lose said ability.

 

r2p

(2 posts)
153. Yeager give white supremacist code signal?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jan 2013


Rumor going around in Memphis bars Yeager gave a signal to white supremacist's for some kind of nation wide uprising the day Obama gets inaugurated.

Yeager no arrest? Govt will look stupid if something happens!
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