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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:17 AM Jan 2013

Conservative Think Tank Ranks Countries With Government-Run Health Care As The Freest In World

By Zack Beauchamp on Jan 11, 2013 at 6:00 pm

Former Senator Jim DeMint, the new president of the conservative Heritage Foundation, has decried Obamacare as “a cancer” that is “is fundamentally inconsistent with liberty.” During the Senate Obamacare fight, DeMint famously declared “If we’re able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him.”

But a new report from DeMint’s own organization suggests that, far from being incompatible with freedom, countries with health care systems with as much or significantly more government control over healthcare are the freest countries in the world.

The report in question is Heritage’s Economic Freedom Index, released annually since 1997. The report defines the concept of “economic freedom” in misleading right-wing terms, but even by those standards, it appears that universal health care systems far more expansive than Obamacare aren’t “fundamentally inconsistent with liberty.” In fact, the ten “freest” economies in 2013 by Heritage’s lights range from mandating individuals save a certain amount of money for health care to almost the entire health care system, including hospitals, being owned and operated by the government:

1. Hong Kong: The semi-autonomous city inside China has a universal, publicly run health care system: about 80 percent of Hong Kong hospitals are government owned and operated. While private supplemental insurance is available, it’s more expensive than public services.

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read more:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/11/1429241/conservative-think-tank-ranks-government-run-health-care-as-compatible-with-freedom/

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Conservative Think Tank Ranks Countries With Government-Run Health Care As The Freest In World (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
It's never too late for single payer..... think Jan 2013 #1
If only... valerief Jan 2013 #5
We are moving in that direction; it is now inevitable. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #6
Ironically HERITAGE supported the individual mandate back in the 90s alp227 Jan 2013 #9
So next time DeMint appears with the talkikng heads exboyfil Jan 2013 #2
Jim DeMints Waterloo Joer138 Jan 2013 #3
Even the Heritage Foundation hasn't been able tp ignore the truth.. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #4
+1,000 Scuba Jan 2013 #11
Idiots hibbing Jan 2013 #7
I love that the #1 "freest" is a communist country.... AlbertCat Jan 2013 #8
hong kong isn't communist. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #14
The Heritage Foundation is home to cronyism Rex Jan 2013 #10
"hong kong's so free that most of the business belongs to 6 ruling families" HiPointDem Jan 2013 #12
Reality never intrudes into RW World. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #13

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
6. We are moving in that direction; it is now inevitable.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jan 2013

The ACA has turned health insurance providers into publicly regulated utilities whose profit margins are dictated by formula.

A first step in rendering their participation irrelevant to health care delivery as the exchanges are set up and become operational.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. So next time DeMint appears with the talkikng heads
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jan 2013

Will some "journalist" ask him about this? Probably not.

Joer138

(9 posts)
3. Jim DeMints Waterloo
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

I'm sure they'll spin it. Or just ignore it altogether. And let's not forget where the individual mandate came frame in the first place. It was their idea. They pushed for it until president Obama did. Now the Heritage Foundation thinks the mandate they created is EVIL

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
4. Even the Heritage Foundation hasn't been able tp ignore the truth..
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jan 2013

maybe that's why they need DeMint; he's so good at it.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
7. Idiots
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jan 2013

Hey,
The Tweeted a picture of this graphic with a promoted tweet. I replied saying that don't all the countries have "socialized" medicine. Someone else replied that Australia has a minimum wage of 15+ dollars. The list is actually pretty funny.

Peace

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. I love that the #1 "freest" is a communist country....
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:24 PM
Jan 2013

.... China!

These think tank people are such a mess..... who cares what they "Think"?

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
14. hong kong isn't communist.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:26 AM
Jan 2013

"Hong Kong is a special administrative region (SAR) of the People's Republic of China... Under the principle of "one country, two systems", Hong Kong has a different political system from mainland China."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong

not that china is, either...

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
12. "hong kong's so free that most of the business belongs to 6 ruling families"
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:22 AM
Jan 2013

and singapore, more or less the same.

they own the 'state-owned' businesses and they own the private ones.

they have socialized medicine and housing because the private sector would collapse otherwise, prices on regular goods are so high.

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