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A Saco man was arrested Friday night for allegedly using a camera in his shoe to take photographs up womens skirts and dresses at the Walmart store in Scarborough in July.
William Tibbals, 31, of Pepperal Street, was charged with a felony count of visual sexual aggression against a child under 12 and multiple counts of violating privacy.
Tibbals is being held at the Cumberland County Jail. Bail information is not yet available, Scarborough Police said.
The arrest followed a long investigation triggered by reports by customers that a man with a camera in his shoe was capturing images up womens skirts, said Scarborough Police Detectives.
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Just reenforces the 'cameras are everywhere meme'. Creepy, indeed!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Persons with lewd interests in violating privacy is pretty much dog bites man.
The toe-cam is a curious twist...but given technology not to interesting.
I find the wording of the criminal charge interesting, I can see that it is probably an attempt to get at a broad range of voyeurism,
but in my own twisted mind I immediately went to 'what else?'
and I wondered how many years do you get for a 'Hate Stare?' Is this a charge that can be aggravated by wearing 'colors', etc?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I'm no fan of voyeurism or the use of technology to invade privacy.
rug
(82,333 posts)1. A person is guilty of visual sexual aggression against a child if:
A. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire or for the purpose of causing affront or alarm, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, exposes the actor's genitals to another person or causes the other person to expose that person's genitals to the actor and the other person, not the actor's spouse, has not in fact attained 14 years of age. Violation of this paragraph is a Class D crime; [2005, c. 655, §1 (AMD).]
B. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, exposes the actor's genitals to another person or causes the other person to expose that person's genitals to the actor and the other person, not the actor's spouse, has not in fact attained 12 years of age. Violation of this paragraph is a Class C crime; [2005, c. 655, §1 (AMD).]
C. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, intentionally engages in visual surveillance, aided or unaided by mechanical or electronic equipment, of the uncovered breasts, buttocks, genitals, anus or pubic area of another person, not the actor's spouse and not having in fact attained 14 years of age, under circumstances in which a reasonable person would expect to be safe from such visual surveillance. Violation of this paragraph is a Class D crime; or [2007, c. 688, §1 (AMD).]
D. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, intentionally engages in visual surveillance, aided or unaided by mechanical or electronic equipment, of the uncovered breasts, buttocks, genitals, anus or pubic area of another person, not the actor's spouse and not having in fact attained 12 years of age, under circumstances in which a reasonable person would expect to be safe from such visual surveillance. Violation of this paragraph is a Class C crime. [2007, c. 688, §1 (AMD).]
Orrex
(63,202 posts)They must have known that they'd be going places where people wear shoes, after all.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)WTF did this guy think he was going to see? Nothing you can't see in a Sears catalogue.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's all about violation.
This is why despite having unending porn on the net, sneaky pictures of celebrities (e.g. Kate Middleton) are so popular. The pictures aren't good quality, it's nothing you can't see practically everywhere, but these are the off-limits bodies, so it's better.
It's sick.
Ever seen Creepshots? Same principle.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)but they're not photographing anything you weren't willing to show, so if you don't want to end up on the net you flip over or turn away.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It always amazed me when some men wondered why women didn't go to nude beaches as much as men did while holding a telephoto lens camera.
People at the beach are not there for your enjoyment and entertainment.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)and we'd just shake our heads and lie on our bellies. A lot of girls were bothered and don't know how to get rid of them though. And no one wanted to talk to them at the bars later. What losers.
My teenage friend in HS, her Dad would take pics when they were out as a family. All of them were mortified, but he was "the boss".
Ick.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)positioned himself to stare my wife, she would start throwing the crackers in the air so sea gulls would hover over the guy and bombs away!
Another female friend would walk up to the guy and ask to see the camera because she was interested in photography and open it and expose the film.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)of people you have encountered, but do not know, in real life. much more agressive than consuming images where the models have agreed to it.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)What the hell do they expect the TSA to do now?
nick of time
(651 posts)I bet he's a loner, can't get a girlfriend, is a pedophile.
If found guilty, hope judge throws the book at him just for looking up the dress of a 12 yo.
What is our society coming to?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Young boys have been peering up girls' dresses since the beginning of time. It's a juvenile, mainly adolescent activity. A 31 year old man who does that is very sad. He should still be charged criminally, but how embarrassing that he was doing something a kid would do.
Plus...how many girls wear dresses these days? Esp in a casual environment like walmart?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Wal*Mart customer accused ...
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Glad you find it so fucking amusing.
Orrex
(63,202 posts)That, I think, was the typo in question.
The creep's shoe trick isn't funny.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)The joke was that it should be specified that it happened at Walmart because ha ha ha Walmart shoppers ha ha.
This is not a laughing matter and it sickens me that x-ray glasses and toe mirrors are being treated like such an innocent thing and not the trappings of rape culture.
Orrex
(63,202 posts)I read "the OP needs an edit" and concluded that that the obvious typo was at issue.
You perceive a different intent.
So be it.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I guess.
Orrex
(63,202 posts)The OP's subject line reads:
Coyotl's post reads:
It seems fairly clear to me that Coyotl is pointing out the typo. I accept that you don't see it this way, but in my view you are mistaking Coyotl's intent.
As to the issue of the guy with the shoes, I don't think there's any question that he's a creep and should be prosecuted.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I shouldn't even read this stuff. I'm losing faith in humanity, with Steubenville and school shootings and everything.
KG
(28,751 posts)TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)wear shorts under skirts and dresses.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It doesn't matter what they wear. They just have to have the bad luck to run into a predatory asshole.
that's probably true, but wearing shorts can deter some of them I hope.
Initech
(100,063 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)So the article's first line is incomplete. It would be horrible if it were just women obviously, but a child 11 or younger? This kind of thing makes me feel very angry. I have a daughter that age.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)She would sit on the edge of her desk and cross her legs.
I don't think she had any intention of doing anything provocative. She was fresh out of teacher's college and apparently not familiar with the innermost thoughts of 12 year old boys.
And any male who claims he didn't do that at that age is lying.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)where you know you are not supposed to.
Please tell me you understand the differences. Because they are HUGE.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)but I assure you I'm not trying to equate adolescent fantasies with the twisted acts of a pervert.
It's just that I was picking up an undertone from several of the responses in this thread to the effect that any male who ever happened to look up a woman's skirt, knowingly or unknowingly, deliberately or by chance, had committed acts of sexual deviancy so vile that he barely deserved to continue to live among decent human beings. This was my attempt to respond to those posts and I was in no way condoning what this creep did.
I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)but like you a few brought the adolescent fantasies- the "Boys will be boys" trope... INSTEAD of commenting on the subject of the thread. That kind of sucks.
There was NO undertone to respond to, did you even notice that, before you made a joke of the OP?
mythology
(9,527 posts)and doing so to a 12 year old as opposed to a grown woman sitting awkwardly in a skirt.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)Perverts have been doing this stuff for years.