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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElisabeth Fosslien's Brilliant Charts Will Make You Much Smarter In The Gun-Control Debate
http://www.businessinsider.com/elisabeth-fossliens-gun-charts-2013-1?op=1Many people agree that something should be done to curb mass shootings in America.
But a dearth of data about domestic gun use has sometimes hamstrung the debate.
Elisabeth Fosslien, a web analytics guru at Chicago's Leo Burnett ad agency, has created 24 charts that break down everything we currently know about guns in the U.S.
Much of the data is from the last decade but again, that's a reflection of the absence of new information currently available.
Something changed last year.
Americans have realized the U.S. is an outlier our rate of firearm possession dwarfs that of other countries.
Guns are cheaper here.
By any measure, gun-related incidents in the U.S. are literally popping off the charts.
Frighteningly, it used to be even worse.
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)The correlation, if there is one at all, is extremely weak.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)the charts dont show a regression line but if you were to throw out the 2 outliers... one being the US and one unknown - it looks like you could draw a line right through the middle of the rest of those dots that has a distinctly upward slope.
But I guess you did the actual regression analysis and came up with that conclusion
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)Are you sure we are looking at the same chart? The one that plots "average firearms per 100 people" vs "intentional homicides per 100k people"?
Just eyeballing it, it seems like there may be a slight upward slope, which is driven by the third uppermost datapoint. Without that one perhaps downward. I would bet that a linear regression (with or without outliers) would yield an errorbar on the linear coefficient such that the sign is uncertain.
But hey, it would be easy to find out if the data could be obtained.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)i guess if we really wanted to we could get a hold of the raw data
hack89
(39,171 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)There is a lot of stuff on there. where can I find that specific data set?
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)I bet there is a correlation between social gap and homicide rate.
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I use in my personal arguments that nations like Iraq and Afghanistan people have nearly unlimited access to military grade weapons. Those places certainly aren't any safer as a result. When I was in Iraq in 2004, the police were so concerned about their own safety that many/most crimes went unchallenged by them. Hell, police stations were getting stormed by insurgents, their entire on-duty staff would get slaughtered, then they'd blow up the building. This happened numerous times when I was in Iraq in 2004.
A lot of the proliferation of military grade weapons was bush's fault. He disbanded the military and left their weapons and stockpiles unguarded for long enough for them to be entirely looted.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)It's like talking to a brick wall.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Constitution doesn't guarantee a right to a car or a hammer.
Their "right" is their infinite entitlement, their no-holds-barred religion.
Using their logic, my right to vote should be limitless. Since the Constitution guarantees my right to vote, there should be no restrictions on my voting. I should be able to vote as often as I like, wherever I like. It's my RIGHT, dammit!
I should be able to go into the closest courtroom and stage a protest while court is in session, with big siigns and screaming and chanting. No contempt of court for ME! I have a RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH and don't you DARE infringe it or restrict it!