New NRA ad is the most apalling national political ad ever. Seriously.

[cthulu2016]

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How can they keep topping themselves?

It's not just that it's offensive... it is alien. Demented. Even half of Republicans will be scared by it's vibe of the NRA daring someone to take a shot at Obama's daughters.

And it's in wing-nut code. (Not everybody will be outraged that Obama wants schools to be "gunfree zones," or that he thinks "the rich should pay their fair share&quot

And isn't even about guns! The gun nexus is a perfunctory. It is, functionally, really about how Obama doesn't care about people like you, that he raised your taxes, and that Obama's kids go to a better school then your kids do.

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Neurotic Racist Assholes

[John2]

39. This is

not new. It is right out of the learning manual of Goebbels. Just pure rightwing propaganda to manipulate the worst sensibilities of who they intend to incite against the U.S. Government.

[orpupilofnature57]

66. +1000 !!!!

Aptly put !!!

[malaise]

2. It's worse than that

[Pholus]

3. Well, can we finally accept that the NRA is right-wing here on DU?

I am very tired of the endless stream of false equivalences and prevarications from their apologists in RKBA.

[Squinch]

23. ^^^^^^^^^Yes, please, can we???^^^^^^^

[Jester Messiah]

36. One can be pro-gun and recognize that the NRA is a pack of lunatics.

They shouldn't be let within 50 feet of a firearm. There is a rational, reasonable discussion to be had regarding what level of weaponry is appropriate to rank-and-file citizenry for self-defense, hunting, & etc. but the NRA is not fit to take part in it.

[zaj]

47. I hate when we do this... we really do a disservice to our cause.

They aren't lunatics.

They are a paid lobbying organization for the gun manufacturing industry. Their primary cause is ensuring that the companies they are defending have access to the largest possible pipe of dollars imaginable. They do this by creating an legal environment with as few industry regulations as possible. But also, by creating a culture among their customer base that drives demand for those guns.

They aren't merely crazy. They have cognitive and emotional control. They just choose to exercise it for their client.

They are greedy and morally bankrupt. They are calculating and ruthless. They are deceptive and manipulative.

They need to be exposed for what they really are, and not just labeled with platitudes like "lunatics".

JMO.

[Helen Reddy]

55. Touche! n/t

[Jester Messiah]

68. I disagree with you. There are True Believers in their ranks.

I would bet that most of their public-facing lobbyists fit the bill, too. It's much easier to lobby for things if you convince yourself that they're true. Sure, the organization has its strings pulled by the moneyed interests, but the rank & file membership and much of the leadership are 100% on board with the lunacy. The disservice lies in dismissing their zealotry. Never underestimate what zealots are willing to do for their cause.

[rightsideout]

4. Now the bastards are really targeting kids

The NRA is sick. Using Obama's kids in this ad is a disgrace. The reason his kids have armed guards is to protect them from NRA right-wing racist whackos.

Between going after his kids and targeting young kids with their new target shooting app is insane.

The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization. They bring in money to support gun manufacturers whose products are used by American Citizens to threaten and kill American Citizens. Their assets should be seized and the organization disbanded. OK, I'm a little extremist myself in that last idea but this organization is going immorally too far.

Because of this BS, the Secret Service is probably going to have to step up security of the Obama family.

[graham4anything]

5. Let's have federal agents on every street corner. Better that than Zimmerman's.

and to raise funds for this, they should put a $250 tax on every gun, and $100 tax on every bullet purchased from this moment forward
along with other ways to raise funds.

[Kingofalldems]

24. Oh I get it. You are mocking us.

After reading this and other responses re the NRA.

[Maraya1969]

28. It took you think long to figure out that we mock the NRA repeatedly on this board?

Besides our complete disdain and our desire that every member of your organization just leave, yes we are mocking you.

[Kingofalldems]

32. I am not an NRA member

'us' meant anti NRA DUers.

[graham4anything]

30. you are correct, I am mocking the NRA. I don't like Zimmerman or the vigillantes

for every zimmerman paul blart mall cop, let's have 5 national guard or federal agents
(like the secret service, or lets maybe the retraining of the soldiers coming home, in uniform to protect our streets

I don't want Zimmerman killing anymore, as I also don't want mass shootings.

Keep your gun in the home, no guns on the street

[Kingofalldems]

33. OK. I thought you were being sarcastic

about anti NRA posts though.

[graham4anything]

35. ALL 100% of my gun and NRA posts are AGAINST the NRA and GUNS. all of them.

[obamanut2012]

38. They are

[Kingofalldems]

56. Well that is so preposterous it has to be sarcasm.

[graham4anything]

57. Being that President Obama just agreed with most of what I say, I would say it isn't.

[Kingofalldems]

58. You mean like post #5?

[obamanut2012]

37. No kidding

[Kolesar]

6. Tying it to the tax issue is a mixed message

and quite stupid on the part of those Republicans. Would any gungeoneers like to respond to me of how the NRA is not simply a Republican organization?

[cthulu2016]

8. The Republican base is currently leaderless.

I imagine the NRA is more than willing to step into that breach.

[Kolesar]

9. Oh, yeah, it's been Fox News and Rush limbaugh since bush became a lame duck

Their "presidential candidates" follow a revolving door into and out of Fox News: Palin, Hucklebee, and Lou Dobbs (in his dreams).

[Skidmore]

22. The Republican base is simply a prop for the big money that tries to

parade the teabagger nation as a movement. The base is showing up on cue for the moneymakers. These people at the top have bought the purest distillation of hatred they could find and they are spreading it around. These four years will either make this nation or break it beyond repair.

[obamanut2012]

40. The NRA is not a Republican organization

It is an Extreme RW/Teabagger organization. Not all Republicans are that crazy and evil.

[2on2u]

7. Desperation, nothing more..... and stoopid too. n/t

[baldguy]

10. The only reason the President & his family require armed SS guards

Is to protect them against the people the NRA produced this ad for. It feeds all of the racist RW anti-govt fantasies the fascist crazies have.

[lunatica]

11. Not to mention that the Obama family needs this protection

It isn't just some privilege. It's a necessity unless they want to all die by murder.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

20. Yeah

It's not like they're just some random people whom are getting "special" privileges and it's not as though the right wing (including the NRA) hasn't worked hard to get people riled up over President Obama, particularly in regards to guns.

[JoePhilly]

12. They are trying to shake another nut from the crazy tree.

Every massacre increases their sales.

[ehrenfeucht games]

13. The NRA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization. (nt)

[Flashmann]

49. The NRA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization.

I agree!!!....I wouldn't think twice of supporting their being officially designated as such,seeing them disbanded,and the seizure of all assets for immediate distribution to victims and families....

[Leaning Left]

14. I am SO upset

That i cannot even give a reply! MAD!

[99Forever]

15. Do the nutballs think that shit..

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.. actually helps their argument to to "protect" their *The Precious*?"

They aren't just freakin' insane, they are also stupid.

[John2]

43. They are just

inciting the real American patroits against them. They just don't understand the real American patriots. Lapierre needs a history lesson. Did anybody teach him about our history before he became a citizen? Orly Taitz needs one too.

[Politicub]

16. Just wow. Sickening.

I hope it has the exact opposite effect.

[KharmaTrain]

17. A Tale Of Two Audiences...

...for those of us in the reality-based world, this ad is offensive for many reasons and deserves to be condemned. I hope it may even create a visceral reaction in some of the apathetic on this issue and further alienate the NRA from the majority of Americans.

However...this ad isn't meant for us, it's meant for those who the NRA always turns to when they need to circle the wagons...their brain-washed membership...or a certain segment of it. These people expect pushback and the NRA uses these type of ads to shake money out of their pockets. They know if the status quo is to be kept, the money has to be raised and spread around. "Piss off the libruls" always shakes a few sheckles loose and the NRA is in need right now to fill up the coffers...

[Paladin]

18. I Keep Thinking The Gun Lunacy Movement Can't Possibly Do Us Any More Favors.

But lately, it seems as if I'm proved wrong, on a daily basis.

I've been viewing and participating in gun control forums for years and years, and I thought I had some concept of just how deranged the gun absolutists are. I was wrong---I underestimated the vicious insanity factor of that movement by a huge amount. I'm still willing to concede that there are decent individuals who are NRA members, but that organization's decent element hasn't been heard from in a long, long time. I don't think the NRA and the rest of the gun rights movement realize that they are aiding Barack Obama is his establishment of a lasting, greatly admired legacy, a legacy of taking political heat and personal risk for the sake of exposing the sickest, most violence-prone segments of our society and demanding some corrective measures that make a positive difference. If the NRA realized this, they would back off the Snidely Whiplash badguy caricature behavior and bring something constructive to the table. Ain't going to happen, and for that, I once again express my profound thanks to Wayne LaPierre and the rest of the clueless fucks at the National Rifle Association.

[Scuba]

19. Proceed, gentlemen ....

.... More rope?

[Ian_rd]

26. Yep. No need to interrupt your opponent while they hurt themselves.

[PA Democrat]

21. Wow. Aren't these the people who accused advocates of gun control

of using the tragedy at Newtown for political advantage? They call Obama a hypocrite and then in the very next breath go after his CHILDREN? Talk about scumbags.

The more the NRA talks the more apparent it becomes how despicable and extreme they are. It's obvious that the NRA is all about PROFITS for the gun manufacturers.

[samsingh]

25. i can't imagine any sane decent person can support the nra anymore

[cthulu2016]

62. Agree

[spanone]

27. FUCK THE NRA. RACIST ASSHOLE MOTHER FUCKERS

[BumRushDaShow]

29. ^^^ THIS ^^^ nt

[Erose999]

53. I'll co-sponsor this statement.

[workinclasszero]

31. NRA...racist scumbag homegrown terrorist org

The NRA is the armed teabag/brownshirt faction of the damned republican party.

How any sane democrat could support those anti american POS is beyond me.

[Odin2005]

34. These people are unhinged.

[perdita9]

41. I don't want guns in my child's school

The Obama daughters are in a different situation because of daddy's job, otherwise I bet Barack and Michelle wouldn't want guns in their school either.

[Jester Messiah]

69. Tell that to the crazy bastards bringing them in, with the intent to murder children.

Then tell me how to prevent said bastards from accomplishing their goal.

[MineralMan]

42. And today, the President will recommend federal funding for armed

security in schools. The NRA is a collective moron.

[Ganja Ninja]

44. Here's how to put an end to this NRA talking point.

Just agree. Agree that armed guards are necessary in schools. Not armed teachers - armed guards.

And by the way, in order to pay for this, we're going to need all gun owners to bring in their guns and magazines on a yearly basis to register them for tax purposes. After all it's their paranoid intransigence that makes all this necessary so they will have to be the one's who pay for it.

Watch how fast the NRA runs away from this line of attack.

[plethoro]

45. This is what will be viewed as the opening salvo, and what comes

next may be as bad as you cand expect. You have people fighting with guns against those who fight with documents in a country near revolt. That is not real good dynamic.

[AlbertCat]

46. Seriously?????

So.... how about a secret service detail for every kid in the nation!

That's how to create jobs!


But to answer the ad's 1st question.... YES. The President's kids ARE more important than yours.... or should have more protection than yours... because if someone kidnapped them, they would have a different kind of leverage than if they kidnapped some gun nut's from AK.


The NRA is just plain batshit stupid. This is all they got?

[FourScore]

48. Holy shit! Don't they understand how dangerous this is???

Obama must be absolutely livid. Un-f***ing-believable!

[Volaris]

50. Yep.

The best thing about this President is that he seems to have some kind of weirdly-wired circuit in his brain, though, that re-routes energy from the "appropriate Rage" part of his head to the "I can use this to my political advantage, WITHOUT appearing to get pissed over it" part of his cognitive mind. Its a rather useful apparatus to have at times, as it seems to make him BETTER at his job, where the rest of us would be so angry we couldn't think straight.

Fuck Wayne. He's lucky there aren't any Teddy Roosevelts left in that party. He'd be in the "hospital" with the political equivalent of a major concussion.

[ehrenfeucht games]

60. Of course they understand how dangerous this is. That's the whole point of the ad.

The NRA is a Domestic Terrorist Organization that is attempting to bully and intimidate President Obama by using their guns to threaten his family.

[cthulu2016]

61. does seem that way

[Erose999]

51. Here's my response to their ad:

As sung by Wesley Willis.

[RomneyLies]

52. Criticizing the most threatened president in history for having Secret Service protection for his

daughters is beyond the pale.

It's the most vile and disgusting piece of shit move the NRA could have ever done.

[Justice4All1]

54. NRA surpasses their own low.

just disgusting & vile.

[Bjornsdotter]

59. What!

How can this be allowed? I agree with those up thread, it's like painting a target on Obama's daughters.

This is outrageous....

[Whovian]

63. Not much to add to what has already been said

but they are doing their best to scare the shit out of the truly stupid gun owners while angering them at the same time. Crap like this is truly dangerous.

[Nevernose]

64. Check out the White House petitions

There must be a dozen versions of "make gun free zones around the president" petitions, most of which have far more signatories than the good ones. "See how they feel when they're disarmed" seems to go their illogic, never fully comprehending that moronic right wing assholes are the main reason the President and others need protection.

[cthulu2016]

65. Hard to keep a bad idea down

[aandegoons]

67. There is nothing that these terrorist won't stoop to.

And there are no unfortunates they would not abuse to muddy the waters.

[sad-cafe]

70. they are doubling down

and think no one will call them on it.