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Why not let Texas secede, if they want to? Then Jeb couldn't run for President. nt (Original Post) raccoon Jan 2013 OP
why could Jeb not run for President? hlthe2b Jan 2013 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #2
Jeb was born in TX. Then again, I guess it could be argued that TX WAS in the US when he was raccoon Jan 2013 #5
The same way it worked with John McCain's Panamanian birth... sofa king Jan 2013 #28
Doesn't Jeb still live in Florida? greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #3
It's all a misunderstanding. TX doesn't want to secede... pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #4
uh, because the vast majority of Texans don't want to secede. cali Jan 2013 #6
^this^ Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #8
I don't think a secession would provoke war today, though. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #10
Nothing Even Close To A Majority Of Texans Support Secession. Paladin Jan 2013 #14
indeed justabob Jan 2013 #15
My Sentiments Exactly. Paladin Jan 2013 #17
Ha...You think they hate Texas?? Try living in SOUTH CAROLINA. renie408 Jan 2013 #26
Anywhere In The South, It Seems Like It's Open Season. Paladin Jan 2013 #29
Never said otherwise. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #16
Yeah, Thanks For That Even-Handed, Oh-So-Neutral Take On My State. Paladin Jan 2013 #18
Take on your state? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #20
I just don't see big head jeb as a viable candidate madokie Jan 2013 #7
I am pretty sure Jeb was born in Maine. The Bushes are from Kennebunkport. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2013 #9
Midland, Texas Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #19
Where he was BORN is irrelevant; the fact is that he's NOT a resident ("citizen") of Texas brooklynite Jan 2013 #11
Let him run. sadbear Jan 2013 #12
Because secession is illegal and 600,000 Americans died to insure it would never happen again. nt RomneyLies Jan 2013 #13
Five billion barrels of proven crude oil reserves? ( n/t ) Make7 Jan 2013 #21
I am so sick of this shit. blogslut Jan 2013 #22
So am I nt WolverineDG Jan 2013 #24
Being a reasonable person, I propose a compromise... Buns_of_Fire Jan 2013 #23
Texas doesn't want to secede Johnny2X2X Jan 2013 #25
Slow news day, huh? WolverineDG Jan 2013 #27

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
5. Jeb was born in TX. Then again, I guess it could be argued that TX WAS in the US when he was
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:34 AM
Jan 2013

born. Not sure how that would work.


sofa king

(10,857 posts)
28. The same way it worked with John McCain's Panamanian birth...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jan 2013

Or George Romney's Mexican birth. There is no real rule of law in the United States; it's all about the muscle you bring to the fight. There will always be a Bush in politics until their dastardly past is fully exposed and publicly acknowledged... which won't happen because they can bring more muscle to the fight.

Cirque du So-What

(25,927 posts)
8. ^this^
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jan 2013

Plus, they don't get to, regardless if a majority wanted too anyway. This country has already fought a war to put an end to that sort of thing.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. I don't think a secession would provoke war today, though.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jan 2013

If the majority (or perhaps supermajority) of a state's voters supported a secession referendum, I very much doubt that there would be much support of going to war to force them to remain. Very, very different times...

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
14. Nothing Even Close To A Majority Of Texans Support Secession.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jan 2013

How many have signed that stupid petition? 100,000? 200,000? That, versus 3,300,000 Texans who voted for Obama recently, myself included, with socioeconomic trends clearly indicating a good future for Democrats in the state. Try restricting your wishful thinking to pro-gun sentiments.....

justabob

(3,069 posts)
15. indeed
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:28 AM
Jan 2013

This "let them go" crap gets very tiresome. Texas is on the verge of being a solid blue state. Yes, it is a loony bin at the moment, but it isn't going to last, even with all the effing gerrymandering. If everyone (on the national party level) would quit writing us off it would happen even faster, IMHO.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
17. My Sentiments Exactly.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

Particularly as to the national party: they seem happy with us forking over our money, while writing us off, otherwise. And as for our resident DU Texas Haters, who are so eager for our state to leave, thus reducing millions of Texas Democrats to political refugee status: fuck 'em. And the horse they rode in on......

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
29. Anywhere In The South, It Seems Like It's Open Season.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jan 2013

But we've got that dipshit Perry as a governor, so we come in for plenty of abuse. As if we all voted for the jerk....
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
16. Never said otherwise.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jan 2013

Despite your silly attempt to read into my post things that were (obviously) not there, all I was asserting was that any contemporary effort to secede that was supported by a state's majority would be unlikely to be opposed by force. That's all. Nothing about whether or not such a majority exists in Texas (I couldn't care less: I don't live there, don't expect to visit).

R.I.F.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
18. Yeah, Thanks For That Even-Handed, Oh-So-Neutral Take On My State.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jan 2013

(Sarcasm alert, because I have a feeling it will be needed.)
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
20. Take on your state?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jan 2013

Oh, you mean that take on your state that doesn't exist in any of my posts...?

Thanks for wasting my time.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
12. Let him run.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jan 2013

He'll have to run from his brother, but I don't think he would ever get far away enough to win.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
23. Being a reasonable person, I propose a compromise...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jan 2013

1) Those folks who wish to secede may do so at any time they wish, and the rest of the country will, I'm sure, wish them well and Godspeed. HOWEVER;

2) Other than the dust on their shoes, they may not take any American land with them.

I believe this approach was summarized in the '60s and '70s by the uber-patriot expression "Love It or Leave It." Since I'm sure they're no less patriotic now, there's surely no reason for them to disagree.

Johnny2X2X

(19,028 posts)
25. Texas doesn't want to secede
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

I doubt any poll shows that the majority of Texans want to secede. It's just a few loons. Maybe they could all move to the desert.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
27. Slow news day, huh?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

Sorry, you're bored, but seriously, this shit again? This is getting to be so predictable. Not much going on in the news, so hey, let's have another Texas secession OP!

So creative.

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