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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:11 PM Jan 2013

Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’

By Sy Mukherjee on Jan 16, 2013 at 11:32 am



In an interview with NPR, Whole Foods CEO and self-professed libertarian John Mackey revived his previous criticism of Obamacare — but this time, with a new twist. While Mackey incorrectly denounced the landmark health reform law as “socialism” in a controversial 2009 Wall Street Journal op-ed, the multimillionaire CEO has revised his assessment and now considers Obamacare — also incorrectly — to be closer to “fascism”:

“Technically speaking, it’s more like fascism. Socialism is where the government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn’t own the means of production, but they do control it, and that’s what’s happening with our healthcare programs and these reforms.”

Although fascist nations do often control their “means of production,” Mackey seems to have forgotten that they usually utilize warfare, forced mass mobilization of the public, and politically-motivated violence against their own peoples to achieve their ends. By contrast, Obamacare regulates some of the insurance industry’s shoddiest practices and imposes a small tax penalty on Americans who refuse to purchase government-subsidized private insurance.

That hasn’t stopped other conservative critics of Obamacare from making similar statements. In 2011, former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum decried that America was falling into the throes of fascism, and that the health reform law was the “final death knell.”

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/16/1456571/whole-foods-obamacare-fascism/

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Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’ (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2013 OP
I will boycott whole foods. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #1
+1 renie408 Jan 2013 #35
+1 Berlum Jan 2013 #136
I will too. Starting now to look for other organic suppliers. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #49
My local Kroger's provides fruits and veggies Fawke Em Jan 2013 #52
Kroger is the only union shop grocery store in Houston Bucky Jan 2013 #65
Do you have a Trader Joes near you? PatSeg Jan 2013 #79
Yes they do. I'll go there form now on. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #88
I love Trader Joes PatSeg Jan 2013 #93
So will I indepat Jan 2013 #54
I will too. classof56 Jan 2013 #82
I'm more the Trader Joe's type anyway. tblue Jan 2013 #102
Yeah. I don't purchase much at Whole Paycheck but I can find subsitute Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #103
I have only shopped there 5 times. 5 years from now, the total will be 5 times. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #120
Already Have When He Started Bashing Healthcare Reform... TomCADem Jan 2013 #123
His kind of ignorance does not need rewarded. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #149
More reasons to boycott whole foods than this statement too CAcyclist Jan 2013 #153
+1 grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #165
+ 2 Octafish Jan 2013 #166
Heard the doughy pantload this morning. The "fascism" portion of the interview bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #2
He sounds like an asswhole. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #3
he he AssWhole Foods! flamingdem Jan 2013 #30
Perfect!!! Last Stand Jan 2013 #78
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #84
how sad.....how stupid of me to think whole foods cared Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2013 #115
In CA they were forced into supporting the anti-GMO proposition flamingdem Jan 2013 #118
+1! uponit7771 Jan 2013 #117
oh well, they are way over priced anyway...no more Whole foods for me...... bowens43 Jan 2013 #4
They call it "Whole Paycheck" here in Columbus. /nt mwb970 Jan 2013 #140
How can he be so successful and yet so profoundly stupid? Rex Jan 2013 #5
How can he be so successful and yet so profoundly stupid? Flashmann Jan 2013 #13
It Appears That Liars And Assholes Are Rewarded In This World HangOnKids Jan 2013 #18
+1 lunasun Jan 2013 #33
Want to know? Javaman Jan 2013 #20
probably gets a lot of liberals' and progressives' $$$$$$ in his wallet, too BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #61
Since he has a huge ego display of his book right up front in the Lamar HQ store... Javaman Jan 2013 #74
hope they do BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #92
Ah that is sad. Rex Jan 2013 #130
Straight, white, male, southern, connected....for starters uponit7771 Jan 2013 #36
strangely enough RILib Jan 2013 #158
Republican 'strategists' have been pushing this meme in local newspapers and social media. blm Jan 2013 #6
I stopped shopping at Whole Foods a couple of years ago Lex Jan 2013 #7
Yes, all of the first world countries who provide universal health care nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #8
My paycheck will boycott Whole Foods anyway. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #9
Of course. Because every single European country with some sort of Universal Health Care... Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2013 #10
Word. Any decent journalists would challenge this stuff. So much for that. LuckyLib Jan 2013 #155
Fuck Whole Foods and it's billionaire trash boss. mmonk Jan 2013 #11
Just another Libertarian who thinks because he can run a company that he can.... Walk away Jan 2013 #12
Will never step foot inside another Whole Foods closeupready Jan 2013 #14
Yup, let everyone know that the CEO of Whole Foods is an Asshole Libertarian AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #15
I wish it was more like socialism Marrah_G Jan 2013 #16
this obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #22
Me too. progressoid Jan 2013 #25
me too...at least until the market system starts valuing children and the sick as much as money CreekDog Jan 2013 #50
... which brings us to my sig line. lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #17
wacky mackey, as we call him here in Austin Javaman Jan 2013 #19
Was going there to get more flaxseed oil Frday obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #21
Uh, nothing new here for this jerk. HERVEPA Jan 2013 #23
I can't afford to shop there now anyway. If I could, I would have to boycott over this. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #24
I wish we had a Whole Foods in my community FightForMichigan Jan 2013 #26
Trader Joe's>>>>>Whole Foods liberalmuse Jan 2013 #27
I LOVE Trader Joe's. Not only is the food reasonably priced, free of preservatives but jillan Jan 2013 #68
Well crap, I guess I have to boycott Whole Foods. Inspired Jan 2013 #28
jerk SummerSnow Jan 2013 #29
Obviously he does not know the definition... OldEurope Jan 2013 #31
We have a dangerously similar set up TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #105
Although there is a WF yesphan Jan 2013 #32
Another asshole CEO holding us back Initech Jan 2013 #34
Yeah? Well shopping at Whole Paycheck Foods is like armed robbery (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #37
DAMN, and Whole Foods is the only decent place to buy food around here RomneyLies Jan 2013 #38
You might wanna take another look at the chains jeff47 Jan 2013 #69
Stopped shopping at Whole Foods... mudstump Jan 2013 #39
Kicked, rec'd, and shared. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #40
Call it what you will, American's want it. We've been held hostage by the medical insurance WestSeattle2 Jan 2013 #41
He's one of the Living Gods of Austin jsr Jan 2013 #42
Other examples of "fascism" according to this definition Bucky Jan 2013 #43
Facists - now primarily remembered for health care proposals... (nt) ehrnst Jan 2013 #44
All you Latte Liberals who shop there are suckers. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #45
Thanks for that totally pointless "toldja so". You're helping to fix DU's lack of negativity problem Bucky Jan 2013 #67
I shop there, am a liberal, and realize the cliches involved flamingdem Jan 2013 #119
I think even an enema wouldn't fix DU's lack of negativity problem davidpdx Jan 2013 #135
Whole Foods is a very reasonable and inexpensive place to shop obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #147
obamanut2012 RILib Jan 2013 #159
fuck Whole Paycheck. support your local Farmer's Market! frylock Jan 2013 #46
+1 SunSeeker Jan 2013 #94
Thank you, frylock. Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #139
I'll add them to my NO shopping there list Debau2005 Jan 2013 #47
no farmers' markets in Atlanta? n/t RILib Jan 2013 #160
Sent my Email to the hypocritcal enema nozzle of a Libertarian BlueManFan Jan 2013 #48
Mandatory, for profit health insurance is absolutely an example of the corporate will being Romulox Jan 2013 #51
+1 DesMoinesDem Jan 2013 #60
+1 leftstreet Jan 2013 #64
+1 area51 Jan 2013 #150
What an idiot. most of his customers I would venture are progressives still_one Jan 2013 #53
Is this guy kidding? Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #55
Glad I've never shopped there wryter2000 Jan 2013 #56
No more Whole Foods for me, mary195149 Jan 2013 #57
They just opened one in my area and now I don't get to shop there :( wildeyed Jan 2013 #58
Keep making it easier for me....soon I will be 100% small business and local produce only! Moostache Jan 2013 #59
TJ's all the way now. ErikJ Jan 2013 #62
Goddamn fascists, forcing preventive healthcare on us! Probably have get there by railcar! Bucky Jan 2013 #63
They needed to be boycotted anyway... NewHere112233 Jan 2013 #66
But... MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #70
Bu bye Whole Foods! mountain grammy Jan 2013 #71
Never had the money to shop at Whole Paycheck... redqueen Jan 2013 #72
I'm reconsidering. He's a jerk Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #77
I listened to that assclown on my drive in this AM ... Myrina Jan 2013 #73
I usually buy 2 things at WFs, rice syrup and Ezekiel bread graywarrior Jan 2013 #75
Whole Foods: source of food poisoning outbreaks! Zoeisright Jan 2013 #76
Hole Fuuds is playing us libs like a Stradivarius violin. SpankMe Jan 2013 #80
Also, Whole Foods stock is up about $1 since this story broke. SpankMe Jan 2013 #81
He's the facist, clearly. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2013 #83
damn, that sucks smiley Jan 2013 #85
Markey was an asshole before he started Whole Paycheck hobbit709 Jan 2013 #86
Whole Foods moved to my town. Think I'll give them a miss. Hekate Jan 2013 #87
By this idiotic definition then the FDA and the CDC are Facist. grantcart Jan 2013 #89
A "fresh" turkey that was frozen and took a long time to defrost, ridiculously JDPriestly Jan 2013 #90
I am already boycotting Whole Foods. Ashame they can't get someone with integrity in there. judesedit Jan 2013 #91
Just another elitist with an opinion ... MindMover Jan 2013 #95
Yet another reason to make fun of all those stupid, wannabe hippies Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #96
It funnels money by the truckload to profit-making private business, and jtuck004 Jan 2013 #97
Dear God, I hate that store. AllyCat Jan 2013 #98
Thank you + other duers fire all this info about (ass)Whole foods alp227 Jan 2013 #99
Well, he's partly right. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #100
This. cyglet Jan 2013 #108
Whole Foods, I mean a ''Whole lot of Money" as it should be called ... YOHABLO Jan 2013 #101
Never liked this store anyway obama2terms Jan 2013 #104
Today my ophthalmologist said he is retiring because of Obama BlueStreak Jan 2013 #106
they own greenlife here d_r Jan 2013 #107
Now that I have found another source for one item I could not get from anywhere else, I am done. mtnester Jan 2013 #109
I hate this man and wish he had nothing to do with Whole Foods. Doremus Jan 2013 #110
Not to eavesdrop, but . . . tilsammans Jan 2013 #111
Whole Foods/Paycheck--Overpriced and Overpackaged, Unsustainable Consumables triplepoint Jan 2013 #112
So they made Jethro Bodeen a CEO? Rain Mcloud Jan 2013 #113
Ah yes, another deluded libertarian schmuck babbles on... infidel dog Jan 2013 #114
No Trader Joes anywhere near me, but we do have an HEB Central Market derby378 Jan 2013 #116
did he not read the post-election reportort ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #121
Add me to the list of those who won't shop at Whole Foods anymore. kiranon Jan 2013 #122
Dick is really going to like the public option then egh. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #124
I hate that guy. I hate Whole Foods. NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #125
No it isn't. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2013 #126
There used to be some stores in Las Vegas called Wild Oats.... Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #127
"Self professed libertarian" = Republican who wants to smoke pot. MADem Jan 2013 #128
Another on the boycott list geomon666 Jan 2013 #129
I won't be shopping there anymore. jonthebru Jan 2013 #131
Okay, so supply and demand at work here.. Permanut Jan 2013 #132
Wait a minute-- I thought Obamacare was *socialist* Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #133
You know that analogy is completely off base. Makes me wonder what his real motives are. gtar100 Jan 2013 #134
Whole Foods is overpriced- and sucks, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #137
I haven't gone into a Whole Foods for years. Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #138
Another entry on my No-Go List. mwb970 Jan 2013 #141
What gets me... Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2013 #142
He's got it backwards bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #143
Print this article out... SHRED Jan 2013 #144
Limousine Libertarian SHRED Jan 2013 #145
Technically speaking..... WranglerRog Jan 2013 #146
Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’.... AlbertCat Jan 2013 #148
Can't go mr.ed Jan 2013 #151
I never shopped at Whole Paycheck anyway. nt Still Blue in PDX Jan 2013 #152
You should hear the NPR interview. The Midway Rebel Jan 2013 #154
Time for my favorite video- Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #156
China Foods RILib Jan 2013 #157
Weaning myself from Whole Foods..I'd rather support other providers radhika Jan 2013 #161
I just emailed my boycott to WF tomtharp Jan 2013 #162
Dear 1%er Mackey: DeSwiss Jan 2013 #163
He certainly doesn't know his customers BainsBane Jan 2013 #164
His stores have gone downhill anyway. Bye bye WF. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #167
This is the last thing i heard on NPR... EVER! stlsaxman Jan 2013 #168
Further and further LWolf Jan 2013 #169
Mackey Just Got A Gift-Wrapped Interview Segment On "Morning Joe" Paladin Jan 2013 #170
The original Inskeep interview link... stlsaxman Jan 2013 #171
BYE BYE MACKEY, AND BY THE WAY drynberg Jan 2013 #172

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
52. My local Kroger's provides fruits and veggies
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jan 2013

grown by local farmers (in my area).

I don't think they've done that, yet, for meat, but I'm sure, with encouragement, more grocers will start providing organic/local products.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
65. Kroger is the only union shop grocery store in Houston
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jan 2013

I travel a few extra minutes to get there & maybe pay a few extra dollars a week. But I'm a non-scab shopper.

PatSeg

(47,414 posts)
93. I love Trader Joes
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jan 2013

Great food, wonderful customer service, and surprisingly low prices. Our nearby Trader Joes just started carrying wine and beer, so they are now practically PERFECT!

tblue

(16,350 posts)
102. I'm more the Trader Joe's type anyway.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jan 2013

Whole Foods lost me on this issue long ago. I have only been there once or twice in years because of just this kind of stance.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
103. Yeah. I don't purchase much at Whole Paycheck but I can find subsitute
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jan 2013

sources for the few things I do buy there. Think I'll mosey on to their website and post a comment that they will never get another penny of my money until this loser is removed as CEO or croaks under the weight of his own ignorance.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
123. Already Have When He Started Bashing Healthcare Reform...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:11 AM
Jan 2013

...and essentially argued that people should just shop at Whole Foods.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
149. His kind of ignorance does not need rewarded.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jan 2013

What ignorance?

He knows what he said is total BS.

It's pandering.

CAcyclist

(2,235 posts)
153. More reasons to boycott whole foods than this statement too
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jan 2013

I shopped there once and when I read the country of origin (China) on the label of their inhouse organic frozen foods, I knew this company was not the great green hope that everyone thought it was.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. Heard the doughy pantload this morning. The "fascism" portion of the interview
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jan 2013

will be heard tomrrow, but I guess they decided to preview it today.

Last Stand

(472 posts)
78. Perfect!!!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jan 2013

That guy is nothing but a RW A-Whole! I think that place is a fraud. I don't go there anymore. Too expensive, too.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
118. In CA they were forced into supporting the anti-GMO proposition
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:59 PM
Jan 2013

So this fellow can be pushed to some extent.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
13. How can he be so successful and yet so profoundly stupid?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:25 PM
Jan 2013

Perhaps lessons from Papa John?......

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
18. It Appears That Liars And Assholes Are Rewarded In This World
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jan 2013

Because they CHEAT. I find this entire concept very difficult to explain to my 11 year old. Because in our world cheating and being an asshole is WRONG, but these liars and cheaters get ahead. Fucked up world indeed.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
20. Want to know?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jan 2013

he didn't become "successful" until he got ex-wal-mart execs on his board.

I saw how WF's changed first hand. I live in Austin.

I saw it go from a quiet nice over priced specialty store into the money grubbing juggernaut it is today.

mackey had zero to do with it.

he made money from other people doing the hard work.

there are two groups that exist in WF's today. those who have been there forever and bow before the altar and think he can do no wrong. Those are the ones that work "above the line" aka upper management.

Then there is everyone else working in the trenches who think he's nothing more than an over priced halfwit.

There is certainly a cult of personality going on in WF's, but like most cults, those deeply steeped in the kool-aid are the ones in charge and whip the regular employees daily to keep them in line.

Ask anyone who is a team leader and they will tell you that their dept budgets are constantly getting cut and are demanded to sell more product with a 1/3 of their staff gone. Ask long time trench workers about wage caps, ask any employee about their recent health care package and the bizarrely high deductible. I could go on.

mackey is just a fool. And not a good one at that.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
61. probably gets a lot of liberals' and progressives' $$$$$$ in his wallet, too
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jan 2013

Since many of us don't know the dirty details.

I had no idea until this

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
74. Since he has a huge ego display of his book right up front in the Lamar HQ store...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:13 PM
Jan 2013

they will now.

or they won't care and keep feeding the idiot.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
130. Ah that is sad.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:59 AM
Jan 2013

I did shop there when they first opened. Even though things did cost more, the local grocery store at the time didn't carry a lot of items and I wanted to eat better. Thanks, sounds like another Papa Johns stooge (another place I won't shop at anymore).

 

RILib

(862 posts)
158. strangely enough
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jan 2013

I have known several very rich people in the last decade or so, and they are often quite stupid.

They must have one particular talent for making money or they are just in the right place at the right time, but the rest of their lives, not even common sense.

blm

(113,047 posts)
6. Republican 'strategists' have been pushing this meme in local newspapers and social media.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

I responded to one 2 days ago mocking his use of the word fascism and linked to Henry Wallace's historic essay - The Danger of American Fascism.

http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm

Lex

(34,108 posts)
7. I stopped shopping at Whole Foods a couple of years ago
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

due to this asshole, and because they didn't have any local produce even when it was in season. Screw them.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
8. Yes, all of the first world countries who provide universal health care
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013

are all fascist states. I don't get how the capitalists don't see that this helps level the playing field. Oh, I forgot, they want to turn the U.S. into a third world country.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
10. Of course. Because every single European country with some sort of Universal Health Care...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jan 2013

...is secretly fascist. (Do I really need the sarcasm icon?)

As is Japan. And Canada. And Australia. And...

If we had a proper press in this country, whomever is doing the interview would have countered this man's ludicrous statements straight off.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. Just another Libertarian who thinks because he can run a company that he can....
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jan 2013

run the country. These guys who have managed to make some money by selling goods and hiring and firing people bizarrely extrapolate that this is how society works. News Flash!!!! It doesn't!

This is the biggest problem that republicans have across the board. They actually believe Business = Democracy.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
15. Yup, let everyone know that the CEO of Whole Foods is an Asshole Libertarian
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jan 2013

I'd imagine a large part of their customer base are Liberals.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
50. me too...at least until the market system starts valuing children and the sick as much as money
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013

which I don't ever see happening --except maybe if wisdom prevails someday and the pure capitalists realize that when everyone is healthy and well supplied, we all get vastly richer --and without the guilt!

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
19. wacky mackey, as we call him here in Austin
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jan 2013

enjoys using a machine gun to shoot his foot because just one bullet is not enough.

once again another ceo libertarian moron who confuses reality with his own brand of stupidity.

he likes his wealth so much that he feels that it also gives him super powers to be able to be a writer.

And as such, he thinks he now has a platform to spout off his ignorant brand of "conscious consumerism" or what ever he calls it, but frankly, a rose by any other name knows his term is nothing more than a rewording of "compassionate conservatism".

What really amuses me about libertarians more than anything is they think they are "thinking outside the box" when in fact the taped the box shut and are now stuck in it. they are nothing more than the insane end of the right wing that enjoy smoking pot.

wacky mackey is just another water carrier for the stupid but yet he likes to think it "enlightened".

just another jackass trying like hell to keep from paying taxes and screwing the poor while taking fat tax write offs by giving to third world countries.

people figured him out when he posed as an "anonymous" poster on a site to undermine a competitor to make their stocks drop so he could buy them at a cheaper price.

just another disingenuous sanctimonious jackass.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
21. Was going there to get more flaxseed oil Frday
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jan 2013

I'll go to the local place and pay a few bucks more instead.

The hell with him. He's also insanely anti labor, too.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
23. Uh, nothing new here for this jerk.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jan 2013

He did shady stuff with Whole Foods stock a bunch of years ago. Should have been in jail.
I buy exactly one item in his store, great veggie dogs that I can't find anywhere else. That's it.
He's a total jerk.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. I can't afford to shop there now anyway. If I could, I would have to boycott over this.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:54 PM
Jan 2013

What a jackass.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
27. Trader Joe's>>>>>Whole Foods
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

Yet another CEO whining about paying his fair share. This is getting tiresome, but the good news is I don't frequent any of the places run by these twits.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
68. I LOVE Trader Joe's. Not only is the food reasonably priced, free of preservatives but
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jan 2013

the employees really care about customer service. Always happy. Always make me feel like a valued customer.

They ring a bell when people are waiting to check out so they don't have to use the loudspeaker - and to not make their customers wait.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
31. Obviously he does not know the definition...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jan 2013

...of fascism: That is when a couple of rich guys own the government and pretend that the government was voted by the people.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
105. We have a dangerously similar set up
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jan 2013

The rich guys not only do control the government to no small extent but also control to varying degrees the folks who are elected, they filter out who the "viable" choices are for election, they have tremendous influence over public perception and discourse by owning the media and shutting out. Or shouting over "unacceptable voices".

I grant more than a couple but the effective point is the same. The banks, the insurance cartel, the extraction industry, and the prime contractors own this motherfucker. I don't even get the counter argument.

Well...Dumbass the Greedhead has had his stopped clock moment after a big swing and a miss (socialisim??? Seriously?).
The Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act made the cartel a too big to fail, we are legally obligated to them and their profits, they have a fucking anti-trust exemption, hey make up what they cannot squeeze out of us turnips from the treasury what else do you call it?

We are a proto-fascist nation at this stage.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
32. Although there is a WF
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jan 2013

near my work, I do most of my shopping at "Natural Grocers" in my home town.

Good prices and they sell produce and products that are local.
Having perused their website they seem like a good company.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
38. DAMN, and Whole Foods is the only decent place to buy food around here
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jan 2013

Motherfucking piece of shit.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
69. You might wanna take another look at the chains
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jan 2013

Some of them do offer lots of locally-grown food and other good options now.

mudstump

(342 posts)
39. Stopped shopping at Whole Foods...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jan 2013

back when he made is first stupid comments. I now shop at New Seasons. Won't spend a dime at Whole Foods.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
41. Call it what you will, American's want it. We've been held hostage by the medical insurance
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jan 2013

industry for decades. This is just one more step towards single payer.

Socialism, fascism or simple common sense, it's needed. The current system is beyond broke.

I suspect that the loudest opponents of this are employers who for generations have been able to foist the cost of their employees health care costs onto taxpayers. Now they'll be held financially responsible and they don't like it.

Basic greed.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
43. Other examples of "fascism" according to this definition
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jan 2013

Fascism - (n.) "In fascism, the government doesn’t own the means of production, but they do control it"

motor vehicle registration
motor vehicle inspection
the FAA (guess what the F stands for!)
restaurant health inspectors
building codes (you can have my asbestos when you pry it from my cold, dead hands, Heinrich!)
housing codes
school zoning laws
motorcycle helmet law
OSHA (guess what the O stands for! - it stands for Oh Shit, Here come the nAzis!)
small business loans
parking meters (Lovely Rita, Stormtrooper!)




Bucky

(53,998 posts)
67. Thanks for that totally pointless "toldja so". You're helping to fix DU's lack of negativity problem
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jan 2013

PS, kudos on borrowing Rush Limbaugh's rhetoric to engage in name-calling, too. You're helping to expand the boundaries of liberalism beyond the confines of mere logic and open-mindedness.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
119. I shop there, am a liberal, and realize the cliches involved
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:04 PM
Jan 2013

with the experience.

The super high prices for well marketed items, the workers from the other side of the tracks listening as this or that consumer badgers them about ingredients that might harm them.. I just laugh about it and it's really not that bad, liberals care about health and that's good, but maybe the obsession with WH is worth critiquing.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
135. I think even an enema wouldn't fix DU's lack of negativity problem
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:39 AM
Jan 2013

It's pretty much ingrained in the site. But then again by replying to the post you just fed into the same thing you criticized.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
147. Whole Foods is a very reasonable and inexpensive place to shop
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jan 2013

Its 365-brand foods are even cheaper than many things at TJ's, and the bulk food area is fantastic. If people make Whole Foods into Whole Paycheck, it's their own fault. I do most of my shopping at TJ's, but buy a few specific things at WF, until now.

And, wanting to eat healthy doesn't equal latte liberals. Good god.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
159. obamanut2012
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

You do know most of the 365 stuff comes from China? And you think it's organic? Lucky it isn't toxic, maybe it is, no way of knowing.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
139. Thank you, frylock.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jan 2013

Nothing like interacting with the farmer who actually grew the food you're about to purchase. It actually gives me a satisfied feeling.

Debau2005

(1,916 posts)
47. I'll add them to my NO shopping there list
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

But...oh man....they have the best selection of produce around for those of us that are vegetarians in the North Metro Atlanta area. Other then that, their stuff is pricey!

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
48. Sent my Email to the hypocritcal enema nozzle of a Libertarian
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jan 2013

and told them I will never again darken the doors of their fascist store.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
51. Mandatory, for profit health insurance is absolutely an example of the corporate will being
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013

enforced by the state.

Truth hurts. A lot.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
60. +1
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jan 2013

AHA was written by the insurance companies for the insurance companies. Being forced by the government to buy a private product is fascism.

area51

(11,907 posts)
150. +1
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jan 2013

We should have at least been given a public option. But nothing beats single-payer. What we got is GingrichCare.

Republican '93 plan:

[font face="courier"]"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."[/font]


Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
55. Is this guy kidding?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:10 PM
Jan 2013

If anything is close to fascism, it's his ideology of libertarianism. Libertarians are okay with government overreach as long as it's at the state level. They don't want to pay their share in taxes in order to pay for working-class services, and they want businesses to be allowed to discriminate and union-bust however they please. Hell, they didn't even make a peep when people were having to jump through hoops this election year just to be able to vote.
If I had a penny for every time I heard a RWer use some type of projection, I'd be a millionaire right now.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
58. They just opened one in my area and now I don't get to shop there :(
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jan 2013

Oh well, Guess I will keep my money. We got Trader Joe's and there is a locally owned health and gourmet chain who treats their people right so I will just stick with those two.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
59. Keep making it easier for me....soon I will be 100% small business and local produce only!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jan 2013

Just another self-absorbed asshat along the lines of the clowns that run Papa John's pseudo-food, Chick-Fil-Hate and the rest of the fools who think that being momentarily cheered by the death rattle of the TEA Party is worth seppeku for their long term business.

Keep it up guys....you motivate me to use farmer's markets, local produce collectives, small family owned restaurants and avoid you and your enterprises at all costs! Thanks!

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
63. Goddamn fascists, forcing preventive healthcare on us! Probably have get there by railcar!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jan 2013

Stalag 13 blood pressure pills.

NewHere112233

(11 posts)
66. They needed to be boycotted anyway...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jan 2013

They lied about all their foods being organic and non-GMOs. They needed to be boycotted long before this.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
72. Never had the money to shop at Whole Paycheck...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jan 2013

but I'll be happy to pass this along so that others who might shop there can reconsider.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
73. I listened to that assclown on my drive in this AM ...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jan 2013

... man, if he didn't sound like an "I'm smarter than you" arrogant jackass!!

To hell with him and his fake "organic" overpriced yuppie stores!

We need to get Top Chef to drop them as their 'supplier'.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
75. I usually buy 2 things at WFs, rice syrup and Ezekiel bread
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jan 2013

I will order them online from someone else now.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
76. Whole Foods: source of food poisoning outbreaks!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jan 2013

Salmonella in their peanut butter, Listeria in their cheese.

I wouldn't shop there on a bet.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
80. Hole Fuuds is playing us libs like a Stradivarius violin.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jan 2013

I like the place - they have a lot of pretty good stuff there. I like the vibe, the other customers, the organics in the produce section and bulk bins. Their meat is top notch. Their deli and bakery stuff is really good. It's all pricey. But, I don't live by Whole Foods alone.

But, it turns out that the company is run not by a green-minded progressive team who's mission is to promote the environment, enable healthy food choices and provide jobs while making a little profit. Rather, it's run by a fucking neo-conservative, greedy Obama hater who designed a facade that shamelessly makes money (a lot of it) from a demographic that's really interested in their health and the environment - even as this leadership shares NONE of those progressive values.

I'd like to say I'll never shop in Whole Foods again. But, I'll probably cave at some point. Boycotts just don't work unless you really have leverage over the buying public and can really put the financial bite on them.

The thing to do is buy Whole Foods stock and change the corporate management as a voting shareholder. That's a tall order, but it stands a better chance of working than a boycott.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
83. He's the facist, clearly.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jan 2013

Not to mention a huge liar with off the charts arrogance to even have the nerve to use that word. A classic gaslighter. Glad I never contributed a dime to his wealth -- I don't take kindly to people who price-gouge the public. That told me all I needed to know about his "values".

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
86. Markey was an asshole before he started Whole Paycheck
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jan 2013

He was a jerk when he ran Safer Way here in Austin in the 70's.

He's still a jerk.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
90. A "fresh" turkey that was frozen and took a long time to defrost, ridiculously
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

expensive produce and canned goods when my local farmer's market offers produce I can buy for less and my local grocery offers canned and frozen goods at lower prices and a long way to drive to find their store, Whole Foods' shopping is not for me.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
96. Yet another reason to make fun of all those stupid, wannabe hippies
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jan 2013

that pay anywhere from 50% to 200% higher for relatively common goods at Whole Foods.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
97. It funnels money by the truckload to profit-making private business, and
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jan 2013

incorporates a mechanism for certain growth of the total amount spent so they can claw in more. Look at the stock of the now health management companies, the mergers and acquisitions, instead of whatever your bathroom reading is. They are doing well, as, apparently, are your offerings of "wholesome, healthy for the wholesome, wealthy" Mr. Charlie. I mean Mr. Mackey.

The PPACA is near the ideal wet dream of a capitalist oligarch's philosophy, fool, with the government pushing taxpayer money into their bank accounts, both here and overseas. More than they ever dared ask for. The only thing that would make them happier is to see patients getting beaten and thrown in jail by police for not paying their bills. (They are working to bring back the good old days, however, like it was until about the 1930's or so in this country. At least the jails, if not the flogging).

His comments lend support to my belief that some people who call themselves libertarians are just ongoing victims of some noxious bacteria that infected their water supply, make's 'em think they are the only person in the world that matters.

AllyCat

(16,179 posts)
98. Dear God, I hate that store.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jan 2013

Now I hate it even more. Local co-ops and farmer's markets are FAR BETTER DEALS!!

alp227

(32,019 posts)
99. Thank you + other duers fire all this info about (ass)Whole foods
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jan 2013

That store = a scam. just an over priced, upscale wal mart.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
100. Well, he's partly right.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jan 2013

He's just got the wrong bad guy: Fascism is not the government controlling business, it's business controlling the government. Which, it is true, we have way too much of.

Oh, and he's wholly a douche.

cyglet

(529 posts)
108. This.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

And most places have local co-ops or farmers markets that sell local food....or chains that are union shops (that still sell a lot of local food).

I've never once set foot in that place. I've always known exactly what they are.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
101. Whole Foods, I mean a ''Whole lot of Money" as it should be called ...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jan 2013

caters to the wealthy .. I go in once in a while and usually leave shocked at the prices they want for everything. They make no apologies. I don't think they take EBT cards ... ha ha

obama2terms

(563 posts)
104. Never liked this store anyway
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jan 2013

They charge out the ass! Trader Joe's is much better and more affordable. Sometimes I wonder if these companys' CEOs that bash it, even read the law before they say these things.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
106. Today my ophthalmologist said he is retiring because of Obama
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jan 2013

Fact is, he is of the age when retirement would be normal anyway. He tends to be a bit old-fashioned in a practice where there is good technology available. But he told me after the election, he decided to quit. I probed a little. It boiled down to the Medicare reimbursement rates, which is really not an Obama thing at all. He said his rates were cut by 30%, which sounded a bit high to me. I told him I had heard that, as part of the "cliff deal", those cuts were largely canceled out and he would never actually see them. He said he hadn't heard anything about that, and then launched into a diatribe about government paperwork.

I am sure he is giving this same BS speech to every patient for the next 5 months before he actually hangs it up. Maybe I said something that will give him a reason to tone down his talk.

I think he was probably a pretty good doc, but I also think retirement is exactly the right answer for him.

There are several milestones we reach in life. One is when you get your driver's license. When you graduate college. When you get married, etc. Another major milestone is when you find you are older than your doctor. That ain't all bad. I'm looking forward to meeting the new doc.

P.S. My family doctor dies about 4 years ago. He practiced until the day he died at age 91. Nice old guy, but I was fortunate to not have had any complex medical issues in those years. I now am with a GP that is much more up to date.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
107. they own greenlife here
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jan 2013

I won't be back- even if other groceries are just as right wing at least they smart enough go keep mouth shut.

mtnester

(8,885 posts)
109. Now that I have found another source for one item I could not get from anywhere else, I am done.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

And the other item's location? A locally owned market (YES!)

Trader Joes, Costco and the Granville Market....no more chances for Whole Foods from me.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
110. I hate this man and wish he had nothing to do with Whole Foods.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jan 2013

Why in hell the B of D keeps this person in the CEO chair of a company whose target market encompasses many progressives is beyond my understanding.

Kick this detritus to the curb already.

tilsammans

(2,549 posts)
111. Not to eavesdrop, but . . .
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jan 2013

. . . I overheard two former WholeFoods employees saying how much it sucked to work there.

And now we know why.


 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
112. Whole Foods/Paycheck--Overpriced and Overpackaged, Unsustainable Consumables
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

for the truly anal retentive and gullible part of the human species. Ever notice how many of their products are copied from others and rebadged as theirs?

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
113. So they made Jethro Bodeen a CEO?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jan 2013

See this is what happens from country music.
The next thing you know cousins do the Horizontal Mambo and they have stupid children(The Bush Family for instance).
Then an old guy with a flintlock shoots at turkey and strikes it rich.
The little rich oy boy gets to be whatever he wants to be because he is frickin' rich.
In one case,pResident!

Scotty,beam me the hell out of here!

derby378

(30,252 posts)
116. No Trader Joes anywhere near me, but we do have an HEB Central Market
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013

I think that establishment is going to start seeing more and more of me from now on - and Whole Foods? See ya, Mackey.

ShadesOfBlue

(40 posts)
121. did he not read the post-election reportort
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:00 AM
Jan 2013

that counties that had Whole Foods located within overwhelmingly went for Obama? Obama voters/liberals/progressives are likely his base customers.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
122. Add me to the list of those who won't shop at Whole Foods anymore.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jan 2013

Love their soups but found even better soup at New Leaf - a similar market on the Northern California coast.

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
125. I hate that guy. I hate Whole Foods.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jan 2013

I've been there a couple of times with friends, and actually read the labels.

They are a scam. He is a scam artist.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,568 posts)
126. No it isn't.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:21 AM
Jan 2013

Corporations dictating government policy is fascism. Sheesh, don't these guys know anything?

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
127. There used to be some stores in Las Vegas called Wild Oats....
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jan 2013

Wild oats was sort of like Whole Foods. They had all kinds of natural and slightly more healthy processed food alternatives. They had all sorts of produce with the occasional wicked good deal. They had a full service deli with a veggie pizza that weighed a ton and was both to die for and fairly priced.

Most importantly, they had a couple of stores near the middle of town which were easy to get to by bus, so I could shop there when I was without a car and it wouldn't take all goddamn day.

As soon as Whole Foods moved in, they bought out Wild Oats and closed two of the most convenient stores for us "common folk". The prices were immediately put through the roof, since the clientele in the areas of town where the remaining stores were probably weren't faced with money as (much of) an object when they shopped.

They probably lost a couple thousand customers doing what they did, but I'm sure their bottom line is fatter. Not that I care. They can stick their business model and outlandish prices where the sun doesn't shine. As many have already said, Trader Joe's is far better for the money.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
128. "Self professed libertarian" = Republican who wants to smoke pot.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:43 AM
Jan 2013

Mackey can take his Whole Paycheck overpriced, halfassed, nose-in-the-air grocery store and stuff it. Away all dopes!

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
132. Okay, so supply and demand at work here..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jan 2013

and I have no further demand for Asswhole foods (thanks, Cowscamehome!)

also Chick fil A
Papa John's
Nike
Staples
Koch Brothers brands

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
134. You know that analogy is completely off base. Makes me wonder what his real motives are.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:25 AM
Jan 2013

These business owners that complain about Obamacare are so wild in their accusations but I have yet to hear anything substantial. None of them care to address the need for health care. They only complain about being "forced" to provide it. As far as I'm concerned, if they can't come up with an alternative that is reasonable and workable in today's crazy reality (i.e, a country in which health care is a privilege but owning a gun is a right), then they are just whining about paying for it. Well, businesses have forced us into this system where health care is really only affordable for most people when it is a "benefit" from a job so they can just eat it if Obamacare raises their rates. They were just being cheap motherfuckers in the first place. I can guarantee that after they start paying the employer portion of health care, none of those assholes like John Mackey will be having to choose between Raman noodles and can of beans for dinner. Just a bunch of self-serving, greedy jerks.

This pisses me off enough to gladly take my business elsewhere.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
138. I haven't gone into a Whole Foods for years.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:47 AM
Jan 2013

Just not into paying $3.00 for a potato. Whole Foods can only survive in areas where there is a mid- to high-level population base which means there will also be local alternatives available to consumers. In my area it's Kristina's -- everything WF has but without the attitude. That's over and above our great local Farmers' Markets.

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
141. Another entry on my No-Go List.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:17 AM
Jan 2013

Is there a website somewhere that lists these corporations run by right-wing assholes? I'm starting to lose track. It would also be nice to have a list of companies that are definitely progressive in outlook.

I hate giving money to right-wingers for anything. HATE it.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
142. What gets me...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jan 2013

...is that Whole Foods not only pays exceptionally well (the lowest paid employees start at $10/hr), but they have a GREAT benefits package to boot (great health coverage, fully paid by the company after 5 years of employment, small out of pocket that goes down every year before that). The ACA won't effect them in any way whatsoever. John Mackey should really keep his mouth shut before he ruins his brand.

It was the best job I ever had (worked there for about 6 or 7 years before our store was shut down when the economy started going to hell (2007ish).

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
144. Print this article out...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jan 2013

...make it part of a pamphlet...hand it out to customers entering the store?

 

RILib

(862 posts)
157. China Foods
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jan 2013

Fist he developed foot in mouth disease a few years ago about organic foods being a ripoff and WF customers being stupid, then I learned a lot of the "organic" food at Whole Paycheck they buy from China. That's when I stopped shopping at Whole Foods. Trader Joe's plus my local health food store plus even big supermarkets carry Amy's, and I'm good to go.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
161. Weaning myself from Whole Foods..I'd rather support other providers
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jan 2013

Farmers markets, CSAs, food-coops, Trader Joe's. I will survive.

I'm happy to see mainstream supermarkets really expanding their organic and gluten-free offerings. If they are willing to start stocking the brands that customers like me request, they should be rewarded with patronage.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
163. Dear 1%er Mackey:
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:31 AM
Jan 2013

Fascism is when you have a one-party, authoritarian government that won't let you say what you just said without getting yourself sent to a reeducation camp.

Or, as in your case an education camp.

- And fascists always wear funny hats......




K&R

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
164. He certainly doesn't know his customers
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:59 AM
Jan 2013

What an idiot. His sales will tank worse than Papa Johns and Applebys.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
168. This is the last thing i heard on NPR... EVER!
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:53 AM
Jan 2013

Inskeep was/is totally reprehensible and irresponsible and apparently uninformed about the definitions of "fascism", "socialism" and "corporatism".

I have turned off NPR before and sworn never to turn it on again, to no result... maybe this time.

oh- and I was never a fan of Whole Foods... so, never shopping there ain't a problem.

Paladin

(28,253 posts)
170. Mackey Just Got A Gift-Wrapped Interview Segment On "Morning Joe"
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jan 2013

Mike Barnacle and S.E. Cupp practically gave Mackey on-air blowjobs this morning, nothing but softball questions. His clumsy damage control efforts continue, aided by the conservative media types....
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