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Delinquent Behavior More Likely in Kids Who Prefer Gothic and Punk to Classical, Jazz, and Pop
Certain types of music can have adverse effects on young minds, researchers say.
In a new study published by the journal Pediatrics, experts say heavy metal, gothic and punk was more likely to cause minor delinquency among minors. The same was found for rhythm and blues, hip-hop, and electronic dance music, such as trance and techno.
On the flip side, pop music, classical and jazz was not related to or was negatively related to minor delinquency, the researchers wrote.
The research was conducted in the Netherlands over a period of four years, during which 149 boys and 160 girlsall between the ages of 12 and 16were studied. The presence and level of delinquency in the adolescents were correlated with their interest in 11 different genres of music.
http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/delinquent-behavior-more-likely-in-kids-who-prefer-gothic-and-punk-to-classical-jazz-and-pop-130118?news=846787
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)What an utter crock of utter shit.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)"Certain types of music can have adverse effects on young minds".
I think it's more likely that kids who are rebellious choose to listen to certain types of music, not the other way round (i.e. the music doesn't cause them to be rebellious).
wellstone dem
(4,460 posts)It would make more sense or as much sense to say delinquent behavior causes kids to listen to punk.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)When you look at it the other way around, it makes sense.
Also, Jazz was a delinquent form of music for a segment of youth in Nazi Germany. I wish I could find an article about this, but I remember going over some of this during one of my Third Reich history classes in college.
It is not as cut and dry as saying ___ music is conformist music and ___ music is non-conformist music.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)by Josef Skvorecky, a Czech author.
(BTW there's also a cool BBC radioplay of the novel which you can find on certain torrent download sites - if you trust them - with a full cast and jazz music soundtrack).
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I forgot about that movie. We actually had to watch it for my German history class.
Renew Deal
(81,801 posts)This "study" is BS.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)someone actually wrote this crap? i guess fact checking is a thing of the past!
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Without sounding like an old man.
Gothic/punk/metal is today, what pop and jazz were several generations ago. So today you have kids listening to goth/metal/punk, sitting in a smoke filled basement doing what kids do. Generations ago it was The Grateful Dead, Sex Pistols, Elvis, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop, Ray Charels, etc...
It is a simple metric. If it pissed off your parents, it was good.
I'm sure the same thing happened in the mid 1700's when the kids stopped listening to Bach and Vivaldi and were sneaking out to a beatnick club to listen to Mozart and Beethoven.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)A few years ago I read an article how a city cleared their pedestrian zones of rowdy youths: They played classical music. Not loud, just at a low volume so you would always have it at the back of your head. It worked. Young people just don't like hanging out there.
The method is in wide use nowadays, e.g. in London.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4154711.stm
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)that is wouldn't work.
Silent3
(15,018 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,737 posts)". . .a bit of the old Ludwig Von. . ."
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
mikey_the_rat
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Punk and pop, classical and R&B, jazz and goth? I was one of those kids, still am. Love almost all forms of music, the only exception being trance and techno.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,282 posts)Elvis was the downfall of my generation. I'm sure Sinatra "shocked" the WW1 vets.
The beat goes on.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)They called it a Communist plot to subvert our youth.
At the same time the Soviets were calling it a Capitalist plot to subvert their youth.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)I also remember how so of many of those who really got into, to the point of enjoyment, shooting people while in theater listened to country music.
Myrina
(12,296 posts).... those listening to classical and jazz are also probably mellowed out on the doobage, enjoying where the music takes them & not particularly interested in raising hell?
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Lots of fail in this thread.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)skinheads- not so much on the weed...
deadheads- everything, of course, but less booze
weed and jazz are like baseball and bubble gum (or chaw)
IDemo
(16,926 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Iboughtahondayouboughtahonda.....hopefully someone here has the gift of interpretation of my tounge speaking..I haven't a clue what god is using me to say..
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I have a pre-teen girl who listens to One Direction. This must be evidence somehow.
Iggo
(47,487 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)saw Chubby Checker on teevee doing 'The Twist". She informed us that the world would end.
I always wondered if she ever caught wind of the Sex Pistols or such before she died.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Bad for the digestion.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)cherish44
(2,566 posts)She's an honors student so there! :p
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)???
it makes about as much sense as saying eating matzoh balls makes you like klezmer
ck4829
(34,974 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)Enjoy, fellow troublemakers!
Music For Governments To Default By
obamanut2012
(25,906 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)(Yes, I realize punk and goth weren't around then, but this sentiment sounds like all the irrational hatred that surrounded rock n' roll in the 50s and 60s.)
dembotoz
(16,737 posts)and the speaker on the station was livid about the lyrics of jethro tull and simon and garfunkel
reminded me of a really bad english teacher at my high school who was proud that she had not changed her lesson plans from when she had just started teaching--and this witch was old.
same broken record(remember those) played over and over.
kids are supposed to gain independence from their parents
a peaceful way to do this is thru music
a very acceptable and useful sign of rebellion
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Javaman
(62,439 posts)I was a "Hip Delinquent"? LOL
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)"Certain types of music can have adverse effects on young minds, researchers say."
correlation =/= causation
Tikki
(14,537 posts)Totally disagree.
Tikki
cheyanne
(733 posts)Music (and all the arts) are the feedback system of society: they tell us what we need to know about our society. They are not the cause of the behavior that they use. Instead of pulling up dumb sh*t studies like this, we should be saying why is this imagery appealing to us. If we don't like the answer, then we can go to the root of the problem (which is usually how our society treats people).
It is very very important to listen and not censor.