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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWouldn't it be a lot more powerful, for a President
to take the oath of office with his/her hand on the US Constitution then a religious book? I would rather have a President who fights to uphold the Constitution then a specific religious belief.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)RedstDem
(1,239 posts)I've always wondered the same thing.
it would be a much stronger message, than holding ones hands on a book fables...
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)It's a symbolic act. Let it go.
elias7
(3,991 posts)I think we should have them swear on a picture of their mother. Just sayin'...
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)But there is tradition, and everyone who swears an oath should be free to decide what document (or none) to swear it on.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)the Bible ...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Not the Constitution. The Bible is at the core of who they are. Not the Constitution.
avebury
(10,951 posts)What makes one version of the bible more valid then another?
Then First Council of Nicaea was made up of a group of MEN deciding what THEY thought should be in the bible. How does that make that Bible the word of God?
The Catholic Church tries to dictate religious matters to their masses while protecting pedophile priests. The Mormons, for a long time, promoted polygamous marriages, magic underwear, and ruling planets in space upon death. Southern Baptists believe that wives are subservient to their husbands.
Just because someone claims to have religious beliefs and takes an oath with their hand on a religious book does not guarantee that said person is a good person.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Just because someone claims to have religious beliefs and takes an oath with their hand on a religious book does not guarantee that said person is a good person."
If they have their hand on the constitution it does not guarantee they are a good person.
If they have their hand on the Bill of Rights it does not guarantee they are a good person.
If they are saluting the flag it does not guarantee they are a good person.
I am not sure why that would even be a point. I really don't think it is.
"The Catholic Church tries to dictate religious matters to their masses while protecting pedophile priests. The Mormons, for a long time, promoted polygamous marriages, magic underwear, and ruling planets in space upon death. Southern Baptists believe that wives are subservient to their husbands. "
Jumped the shark.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)In many instances it is probably a correct point. That still doesn't take away from the fact that it doesn't bother me.
Too often, politicians do things they might not believe(at least fully want to do) simply for public perception.
avebury
(10,951 posts)Just think about it. If someone is really ambitious, wants to rise up to be President, he/she knows that he/she has to appear to be religious to satisfy the religious nuts in this country. Just because a person goes to church and memorizes a bible DOES NOT mean that the person actually BELIEVES in religion or the text. It can be just an act with a goal in mind, getting elected. People do not what is actually going on inside a person's head or heart.
Just because someone takes an oath of office with their hand on a bible (or other religious text) doesn't mean that they actually take it seriously. The original oath of office for the President did not include the words "so help me God." That was added on later on.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The difference is, I call that being a politician.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)and thus, their lives.
But I do agree that the President should use whatever they feel strongest about
Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
rurallib
(62,387 posts)there is but one version of the constitution.
It should be the core of our beliefs on government.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Took the oath with his hand on the Constitution.
So sayeth CNN this morning on my phone.
Bake
Recursion
(56,582 posts)seems pretty simple to me.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Break that and you will go strait to hell. Many Christains today, and many of the time this start, would say it is just superstion. But it is a suprise how this kept people in line back then.