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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:52 PM Jan 2013

Obama calls for ‘collective action’


In his second inaugural address, President Obama argued that now is the time to address climate change and defended entitlement programs that have been targeted for cuts.
“We are made for this moment, and we will seize it – so long as we seize it together,” he said.
Our current challenges, he argued, call for “collective action.”
“We have never relinquished our skepticism of central authority, nor have we succumbed to the fiction that all society’s ills can be cured through government alone,” he said. “But we have always understood that when times change, so must we; that fidelity to our founding principles requires new responses to new challenges; that preserving our individual freedoms ultimately requires collective action.”
Obama defended entitlement programs that Republicans hope to reform as part of deficit-reduction cuts.
“The commitments we make to each other – through Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security – these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us,” he said. “They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.”
He promised action on the climate, saying, “We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.”
Obama also pledged his commitment to equal pay for women as well as equal rights for gay Americans and voting reforms to avoid long lines at the polls. And he said touched on immigration reform, declaring that “our journey is not complete … until bright young students and engineers are enlisted in our workforce rather than expelled from our country.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/21/obama-defends-entitlements-promises-climate-action/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost
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Obama calls for ‘collective action’ (Original Post) octoberlib Jan 2013 OP
it means he's coming for us Enrique Jan 2013 #1
Ha! The Repukes are probably having a meltdown over that phrase octoberlib Jan 2013 #4
Repugs are thinking: flamingdem Jan 2013 #10
he mentioned fighting communism in the next few lines bigtree Jan 2013 #17
He really is quite anti-communist / socialist flamingdem Jan 2013 #21
That's what I heard & collectives are not unidirectional, top-down, authoritarian. patrice Jan 2013 #2
All partners are equal Fumesucker Jan 2013 #8
Learning. If one remebers past mistakes, one is less doomed to repeat them. nt patrice Jan 2013 #9
Indeed Fumesucker Jan 2013 #16
"high soaring"? what I heard was, tte, what happens was/is/will be about the work you do together. patrice Jan 2013 #18
Like the blind men and the elephant, the perceptions differ markedly depending on perspective n/t Fumesucker Jan 2013 #22
I agree to that, so I could never rationally say what one perceives isn't one's perception, but that patrice Jan 2013 #26
Absolutely, THIS is the new model, not capitalism flamingdem Jan 2013 #12
last time citizens took up him at his word this happened: virgo7 Jan 2013 #3
Obama: I want to be very clear in calling upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #6
Well, he's obviously not Egyptian so what's the beef? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #7
His admonishment to the Egyptian "authorities" is in stark contrast to the treatement endured Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #29
Wondering here if PNAC has given up it's lust to control Egypt. nt patrice Jan 2013 #15
Yeah, Obama should wear better disguises and stay out of CA. patrice Jan 2013 #19
yes, where was the protection for these protesters? Fight2Win Jan 2013 #24
Collective action...like the Occupy Wall Street movement, which is beaten and jailed. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #5
As I understand it, it's Occupies, each one it's own thing. patrice Jan 2013 #11
That is my understanding ChazII Jan 2013 #14
And around here, at least for a while, "our" Occupy was the Tea Party. nt patrice Jan 2013 #20
+100000 Fight2Win Jan 2013 #25
Always thought you vendetta types were more about vengeance than anything else. Silence can patrice Jan 2013 #27
1000 points of light... HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #13
With Martin Luther King Jr agrees with this message Fight2Win Jan 2013 #23
I believe Martin Luther King would be irate at what has happened to the poor in this country Fight2Win Jan 2013 #28

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
21. He really is quite anti-communist / socialist
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

and this can be seen with the poor relationship towards Cuba and Venezuela, one area where I fault Obama. The State Department really blew it on Honduras -- there is a human rights crisis there as a result of undermining President Zelaya and not rejecting the coup thugs, one of whom is now running for President -- all because Zelaya was friendly with Chavez, and this is a disaster that has gone basically unreported. I understand being an Americanist but not to the point where one is blinded by the idea of other countries, weaker countries choosing a different system.

It's all words, it's all bullshit. POWER is what counts in the end.

I really hope that he addresses the multiple errors in Latin America in his second term but sadly there is not much impetus towards doing anything.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. That's what I heard & collectives are not unidirectional, top-down, authoritarian.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jan 2013

They elevate workers as equal partners in an enterprise.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Indeed
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jan 2013

If one has been snookered by high soaring rhetoric in the past then remaining skeptical is a lesson learned from experience.



patrice

(47,992 posts)
18. "high soaring"? what I heard was, tte, what happens was/is/will be about the work you do together.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

patrice

(47,992 posts)
26. I agree to that, so I could never rationally say what one perceives isn't one's perception, but that
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jan 2013

also means that neither can I accept that judgement of my own perception(s), nor does it mean that someone can't back away from that elephant and its perceivers a bit and perceive multiple perceptions.

All with the caveat, of course, that perception is NOT a one ne process, 1 unit of sensory input : 1 unit of perceptual output. That isn't even the architecture of the neurophysiology that makes perception possible, let alone of the "software" that runs it.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
12. Absolutely, THIS is the new model, not capitalism
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jan 2013

not socialism/communism

We are capable as humans to learn from the past and improve our lot!

(Unless you are a Republican but they are the minority now he he)

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
29. His admonishment to the Egyptian "authorities" is in stark contrast to the treatement endured
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:43 PM
Jan 2013

by Occupy in his own country, under his watch. Not a single word out of the WH regarding 7400+ Occupiers beaten and arrested, excepting HR347 and the NDAA.

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
24. yes, where was the protection for these protesters?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jan 2013


The right wing was laughing over this, and our side was silent.

"we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Martin Luther King Jr
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
5. Collective action...like the Occupy Wall Street movement, which is beaten and jailed.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jan 2013

While "tea party" people get to strut around with rifles and racist placards.

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
25. +100000
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jan 2013

"we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Martin Luther King Jr

patrice

(47,992 posts)
27. Always thought you vendetta types were more about vengeance than anything else. Silence can
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jan 2013

mean a lot of things, or nothing at all, and only fascists would try to determine that for everyone else. And the hallmark of a fascist is someone who doesn't ask others "better ____________ (what) than _________________ (what)" too afraid to disturb their tired old cliches about trees of something and the blood of other people, not their own.

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
23. With Martin Luther King Jr agrees with this message
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jan 2013



Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go out into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism, and militarism.

We must move past indecision to action. We must find new ways to speak for peace in Vietnam and justice throughout the developing world, a world that borders on our doors. If we do not act we shall surely be dragged down the long, dark and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight.
 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
28. I believe Martin Luther King would be irate at what has happened to the poor in this country
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jan 2013

The military grows to new heights, at the expense of the many
The crushing poverty of millions right now, millions of homeless school children, bankers walk away stealing people's homes...
Meanwhile powerful interests control our media and blame us for the problems, while they pilfer and loot our treasury for the bankers, the military industrial complex.

This is where we need to focus our collective action:
Majority of Tax dollars go to the Pentagon(Trillions missing in 2001) Which Cannot Be Audited? WTF!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022231576

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