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rateyes

(17,438 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:29 PM Jan 2013

I called Sen. Reid's office today and talked with a staffer. I asked why

he did not push for stronger filibuster reform. The staffer said, "that's Sen Reid's opinion." I asked the staffer to share my opinion with the Senator: "you, sir, did nothing good for the country today, and are a coward."

And, yes, I called before the vote, as well.

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I called Sen. Reid's office today and talked with a staffer. I asked why (Original Post) rateyes Jan 2013 OP
Good for you! Way to go, rateyes! nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #1
Now, Honeycombe8 and rateyes, that a real interesting couple.... fadedrose Jan 2013 #2
Insults and invective. Ptah Jan 2013 #3
insults, invective, and rateyes Jan 2013 #5
Foolish and impotent behavior. FarPoint Jan 2013 #11
Foolish, impotent...probably.... rateyes Jan 2013 #12
You cant know that demwing Jan 2013 #41
Ill Bet The Farm.... rsmith6621 Jan 2013 #4
Even though he said he would, I bet you are right. rateyes Jan 2013 #7
Ed Show is going to cover exactly that coming up,,,,,, benld74 Jan 2013 #6
Thanks, Rachel will cover too.. fadedrose Jan 2013 #9
Senator Reid got the majority of what HE wanted. Tx4obama Jan 2013 #8
It isnt about him. Its about the country. He is a failure. rateyes Jan 2013 #10
and so is Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein who opposed Reform. Jack Reed, a liberal from R.I. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #13
Why didn't you call Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and Jack Reed? All opposed reforms. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #14
Because he is the LEADER, and wouldnt get them on record. rateyes Jan 2013 #15
Yes, call him, but also call those senators. We need to put pressure, not only on the *LEADER* but Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #39
I keep asking, but no one answers: what difference would it make onenote Jan 2013 #16
Really? Nothing the repubs dont want isnt getting to Obama's desk? rateyes Jan 2013 #17
And it got there without filibuster reform. Because enough repubs onenote Jan 2013 #18
There is a better chance of it passing if it can get out of the Senate. rateyes Jan 2013 #19
give me an example of a bill that could pass the House but was filibustered onenote Jan 2013 #20
The public option. rateyes Jan 2013 #21
Care to back that up? The public option wasn't killed by a filibuster onenote Jan 2013 #23
See the next post. As for p.o. rateyes Jan 2013 #24
It couldn't be brought up because it didn't get out of Committee onenote Jan 2013 #26
Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act...on its way to passage in House, rateyes Jan 2013 #22
What evidence is there that it would have passed the House? onenote Jan 2013 #27
It wasnt brought up in House because the Senate killed it with a filibuster...I now refer you to my rateyes Jan 2013 #28
Again, how a bill becomes a law onenote Jan 2013 #33
The DREAM Act had already passed the House, and would be law today had the rateyes Jan 2013 #25
Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act. Passed Repub House with large majority... rateyes Jan 2013 #30
When did the Emergency Sr. Citizens Relief Act pass the House? onenote Jan 2013 #34
2011 rateyes Jan 2013 #36
I believe you are mistaken onenote Jan 2013 #40
Also... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #35
Nominations which must be approved by the Senate (but not the House)? Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #38
I called his office many times today and never could get through Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #29
I was on hold for 10 mins. rateyes Jan 2013 #31
I REALLY don't get this Matariki Jan 2013 #32
Too bad Hillary couldn't have loaned her cojones to Reid for the day. mnhtnbb Jan 2013 #37

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
9. Thanks, Rachel will cover too..
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jan 2013

Best thing since sliced bread.

It's almost like Michael Renny got off the Ufo and addressed the Senate and told them to stop screwing around or he'll do a nuclear option, one that they can't filibuster by phone....

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
13. and so is Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein who opposed Reform. Jack Reed, a liberal from R.I.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:18 PM
Jan 2013

also opposed reform. Why didn't you call their offices?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
39. Yes, call him, but also call those senators. We need to put pressure, not only on the *LEADER* but
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:55 AM
Jan 2013

on those who directly represent us. Reid is in the position he's in because Dem senators put him there. That does not absolve us from contacting them, too, and holding them accountable.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
16. I keep asking, but no one answers: what difference would it make
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jan 2013

in terms of getting legislation passed. Bills still have to pass the House and the Senate and nothing the repubs don't want is passing the House and getting to the president's desk.

So I ask again -- what practical difference would we see if the fiilbuster rule was changed?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
17. Really? Nothing the repubs dont want isnt getting to Obama's desk?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jan 2013

The wealthy just got a tax increase, signed by Obama.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
18. And it got there without filibuster reform. Because enough repubs
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:28 PM
Jan 2013

viewed it as the best they could get. But if you think there is a situation in which the Senate is going to filibuster something that would pass the House you are dreaming.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
23. Care to back that up? The public option wasn't killed by a filibuster
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jan 2013

It was killed in Committee even though the Democrats controlled the Senate.

Plus, we controlled the House then. We don't control it today, which is why the rending of garments about this decision seems overblown.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125424025772149687.html

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
24. See the next post. As for p.o.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:49 PM
Jan 2013

it would have been filibustered had Harry had the balls to bring it up for a vote, and could have passed it under reconciliation..Another example of Harrys spinelessness.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
26. It couldn't be brought up because it didn't get out of Committee
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jan 2013

How a bill becomes a law 101.
If the majority leader can bring up any bill he wants, why have committee votes?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
22. Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act...on its way to passage in House,
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jan 2013

killed in Senate with the filibuster after a majority was in favor. this in 112th Congress with a repub majority.

One will do, you said. I have more if you want.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
27. What evidence is there that it would have passed the House?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jan 2013

A companion bill to the Senate version was never even introduced in the House. Why didn't the supporters of the bill bring it up in the House to create pressure on the Senate?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
28. It wasnt brought up in House because the Senate killed it with a filibuster...I now refer you to my
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jan 2013

next post about the DREAM act.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
33. Again, how a bill becomes a law
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jan 2013

Far more commonly than not, when a bill is introduced in the Senate, a companion bill is introduced in the House. There are several reasons, both political and procedural for doing this. Your Dream Act example is a good one -- its been introduced several times in both the House and Senate. In fact, its passage in the House came AFTER a companion version was blocked in the Senate. Once it passed the House, it went back to the Senate again and came much closer to getting through the filibuster than it had previously.

I will concede that the Dream Act is an example of a bill that passed the House but was blocked in the Senate. But that was when the Democrats controlled the House and the situation today is much different.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
25. The DREAM Act had already passed the House, and would be law today had the
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jan 2013

Senate not filibustered it. Want more?

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
30. Emergency Senior Citizens Relief Act. Passed Repub House with large majority...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jan 2013

died in Senate to filibuster.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
34. When did the Emergency Sr. Citizens Relief Act pass the House?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jan 2013

You may be right, but I don't recall it and I can't find any record of it.

onenote

(42,531 posts)
40. I believe you are mistaken
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:04 AM
Jan 2013

There is no record of the Emergency Senior Citizens bill having even been introduced in 2011, let alone passed in the House. Two versions were introduced in the House and one in the Senate in 2009 and none of them got out of Committee. Two versions were introduced in the Senate in 2010 -- one stayed in Committee and the other was filibustered. No House action at all in 2010. And no House or Senate action at all in 2011 or 2012.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
35. Also...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:41 PM
Jan 2013

...it prevents some of the batshit crazy bills the rushpublicans passed out of the House from reaching the Senate floor.

The change is supposed to cut back on the number of silent holds...especially for judicial and other nominations so that the backlog in the courts can be cleared up (a big thing as it means appointing Democratic judges) as well as forcing the person who puts the hold to come to the Senate floor instead of hiding. Incremental changes, but change.

The hang up here is the Democrats have teo protect more seats in 2014 than rushpublicans have and could easily lose the majority if Democrats stay home again like they did in 2010. Then those who wanted the nuclear option would cry about not having the filibuster...it's always whose ox is being gored...

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
32. I REALLY don't get this
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jan 2013

I remember seeing him talk about pushing filibuster reform and changing the 60 vote thing. He seemed so farking earnest.

This is from 2010:

mnhtnbb

(31,371 posts)
37. Too bad Hillary couldn't have loaned her cojones to Reid for the day.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:43 AM
Jan 2013

I do not understand why the Dems don't replace him with someone
who has some spine.

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