Hillary 2016

[Aerows]

She is measured, bright, and doesn't back down.

I will help draft her for 2016. She is the lady we need.

[Aerows]

1. Step up to the plate

[quinnox]

2. maybe give it a rest, its four years away

[Aerows]

4. Never too early

to have a good candidate, cher.

[gopiscrap]

7. No way

the 2016 Presidental Election began on November 7, 2012

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. No more triangulating, 3rd Way, pro-war Democrats. NT

[Aerows]

8. I think she comes from the heart

I don't think she is triangulating, so much as she is working to the best of all concerned with the angles presented.

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. It worked for President Obama

[sadbear]

5. All that is true, but...

I think we could still do better.

[Aerows]

11. See, this is what tees me off

"We could do better" as though Hillary Clinton is the scum on the pond. The lady is fierce, she is eloquent, and has credentials coming out of her ears, yet some folks in the Democratic party want to make those negative traits.

What in the hell is wrong with being a credentialed, well-spoken, passionate President?

[leftstreet]

14. She is an outstanding center-right candidate n/t

[sadbear]

16. Where did you get that?

Pond scum? Certainly, I would not have a problem with a second President Clinton, but the fact is she's not very liberal for a Democrat. Saying we can do better does not mean I thinks she's pond scum. I mean, I like rib-eye steaks, which are very good IMO, but I know I could do better.

[Whisp]

23. she also voted for the Iraq war. She's pro war.

as is her husband. When George Sr invaded Iraq in Gulf War1, Clinton took over and sanctioned them to hell for his whole two terms, then George Jr takes over when Iraq was weakened from all those years of assault, he took over for the final assault and grand robbery and the PNACers and the Halliburtons ran off with a lot of money and blood. Clinton was part of this chain of events and you can argue separation between Hillary and Bill's ideas, but she does have a habit of denying support of anything Bill did that was not popular and jumping on the wagon saying she helped him with anything that Was popular.

Why do we need a woman president that thinks like all the men presidents before her and has to remind us regularly (or her surrogates) of how 'tough' she is.

sorry, Aerows. I have to really really really disagree with you on this.

The reason white european men were only elected for how long was because of this thinking. That if he's a man he gets the job. I don't want the first woman president to act like all those previous men on that job.

[Aerows]

33. I still love you, Whisp :)

We can agree to disagree.

[Whisp]

36. me you too. :)

I was kinda scared to read your reply tho.



but all's good.

[Aerows]

38. We are friends

and that means more to me than politics.

[Dawgs]

46. Nothing wrong with those things. Doesn't mean we can't do better.

She did vote for the Iraq war after all.

[mattclearing]

6. Good luck with that. n/t

[Aerows]

9. Do you think she is a bad candidate?

Please proceed.

[mattclearing]

21. Yes.

You might recall that she lost the nomination when it was hers to win. She had her chance, made some poor choices as a Senator (like supporting the IWR for one) and ultimately failed to persuade the Democratic Party and by extension, the American people, that she should be President.

She also had higher negatives than Obama and polled worse against John McCain. If she had won the nomination, you might be complaining about the war with Iran which President McCain couldn't wait to lead us into.

It's also comical and insulting that you should use Obama's line to push a second Hillary presidential run. The facts don't support your cause, and I'm not Mitt Romney.

[Aerows]

41. I didn't mean to be insulting

nor comical. I wanted to see what other Democrats thought. I like her. I always will. Jeer me all that you like, but you don't have to vote for her, either.

I made my opinion plain, you disagree. That why we have opinions

[mattclearing]

42. Fair enough. n/t

[Lesmoderesstupides]

10. Sorry Hillary is not the future, she needs to step aside, maybe mentor and coach younger candidates

Sorry Hillary is not the future, she needs to step aside, maybe mentor and coach younger candidates with getting elected.

[Aerows]

12. 2 posts

I can see how Hillary alarms you, since she is more respectable that any 12 Republican offerings.

[Lesmoderesstupides]

15. Hillary does not alarm me at all, she is way to conservative for me and she will be way past 60

by 16.

The party needs younger leaders unless of course your goal is to turn the party into the GOP with nothing but old people running the show.

[Flashmann]

17. She is past 60 now

You're not doing much to enhance the illusion that you are of informed opinion.....

[Lesmoderesstupides]

25. I am Very Informed and we live in a very shallow nation where looks and age play a big part in

the majority’s decision making for elected leaders.

If you think she is the best one for the job, support her.

I do not think she is the best for the job, nor the party as POTUS.

I would prefer and back with support including cash a liberal and progressive candidate for POTUS.

[Flashmann]

26. If you think she is the best one for the job, support her

Asked and answered....I now direct you to post #13......

[Aerows]

35. File 13

The round file. Exactly.

[Lesmoderesstupides]

27. Now you sound like a gun nut becasue I did not name the right part of the gun

no I do not know her exact age but I do know she is over 60 now and will be 4 yeras older in 16 and that is a cold hard fact.

In fact I don't know the exact age of any politician, I know the general age of them, exact age, no.

Nor do I care.

[Flashmann]

28. Your circular logic

Is tedious and boring,as is your insistence on maintaining a pretense of intellect and informed opinion.....Good day to you....

[Lesmoderesstupides]

29. You are funny! BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Flashmann]

13. To make the claim,this far in advance

That any potential candidate is or is not the best or is,or not the future seems predicated on disregarding unforeseeable dynamics that are certain to occur.......Wouldn't that be both disingenuous and counterintuitive,not to mention ridiculous?...

[Lesmoderesstupides]

18. If she wants to run, she can, I don't care nor will I support her in her effort I will support

someone else, if she is the party nominee then all she gets from me is holding my nose and voting for her only becasue she has a (D) after her name.

[Flashmann]

22. Ah...I see

Please refer to post #17....

[LeftyDemLibProgress]

19. Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)

[sadbear]

20. ...

[Lesmoderesstupides]

34. Ok if you say so, I don't personally know Will Pitt so it is hard for me to judge if he

is a douche or not.

He may or may not be but either way it is just your opinion.

How about saying ... In my opinion Will Pitt is a douche...instead and make your case as to why.

[hrmjustin]

43. There is a troll that is rejoining every few hours and making calling a member WilliamPitt

names. people just alert on him when he pops up. Welcome to DU.

[Lesmoderesstupides]

44. I searched the name & Will does not seem like a douche but perhaps I have a different standard as to

what makes one a douche then others.

Like what Harry Reid did yesterday that was douchey in my opinion, others will disagree but I also won't start a thread calling Harry Reid a douche either.

[hrmjustin]

45. Will Pitt is a great poster who is being harassed by this troll.

They think it may be a former member that has a grudge.
Harry Reid is a politician and is acting like one. No surprise there!

[snooper2]

24. you should start a website!

[Aerows]

30. I'm guessing it would be as welcome

as a Glen Beck oratory on how to prepare for the end of days.

[Aerows]

31. I deeply respect HRC.

Many of my friends (love you Whisp) disagree. That is okay. I put this out there.

[datasuspect]

32. no more clintons, no more bushes

there are 311,591,917 people (2011 census) in the US, surely someone ELSE is qualified.

[Aerows]

37. Until they step forward, I still

like Hillary Clinton. Sorry, I just like her.

[datasuspect]

39. just reeks of a lack of imagination

300,000,000 + people.

i just can't get past the hope in all the diversity among that many people to have vestiges of former neoliberal administrations still hanging around like a specter in national politics.

[Aerows]

40. Lack of imagination

LOL, now there is a concept that I can agree with. 300,000,000+ of us, and we do, indeed lack imagination.