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OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:39 PM Jan 2013

Support grows for couple facing jail for deer rescue....

This article truly falls under the "WTF" category....

Support grows for couple facing jail for deer rescue

QUOTE:

Trouble is, what the Councellers did is against the law. And more than two years after rescuing the deer, and more than six months after conservation officers began an investigation, the Indiana Department of Natural Resources wants them prosecuted.

The charge -- illegal possession of a white-tailed deer — is a just a misdemeanor, but punished to the fullest it could cost the Councellers up to 60 days in jail and a $500 fine.


Incredible.

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Support grows for couple facing jail for deer rescue.... (Original Post) OldDem2012 Jan 2013 OP
Destroy the world economy and get a nearly one trillion dollar bailout Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #1
Local LE has nothing to do with the world economy. They're just being assholes. randome Jan 2013 #3
This is a statement on just how fucked up America is Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #4
Taxpayer dollars at work... freckleface Jan 2013 #2
good for them. ceile Jan 2013 #5
You're kidding, right? liberalhistorian Jan 2013 #6
no, why? n/t ceile Jan 2013 #7
In your opinion, what should they have done? nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #10
just plain dumb lotsofsnowplease Jan 2013 #8
Oh FFS! MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #9
What they did was illegal dbackjon Jan 2013 #11
How was the deer harmed by nursing the animal back to good health.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #16
They never released him back into the wild dbackjon Jan 2013 #17
I'm for using common sense in the application of the law.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #20
Very much in favor of common sense dbackjon Jan 2013 #22
That's your opinion....good luck pushing that concept. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #26
Since that concept is already the accepted rule of law nationwide, don't need to push it dbackjon Jan 2013 #30
They did it wrong Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #23
+1 X_Digger Jan 2013 #24
I agree liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #28
Bingo - a simple concept, yet not grasped by many on this thread dbackjon Jan 2013 #31
We have pet deer. DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #19
The DNR xxqqqzme Jan 2013 #12
There's a Monty Python skit in this story somewhere. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #13
Likely because it was so habituated to humans that it couldn't be released. X_Digger Jan 2013 #25
Remember this is a very Red State Pakid Jan 2013 #14
If there were ever a time and place for prosecutorial discretion this would be it. Vattel Jan 2013 #15
Unbelieveable. strongermessage Jan 2013 #18
But if some asshole shot it out of season they would probably get a pass and a medal Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #21
" possession of a deer could foster the transmission of diseases and parasites from animals to human Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #27
No good deed goes unpunished in a right-wing-soused indepat Jan 2013 #29
Small town, I'm guessing a personal vendetta against the family. Separation Jan 2013 #32
"illegal possession of a white-tailed deer" Enrique Jan 2013 #33

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
1. Destroy the world economy and get a nearly one trillion dollar bailout
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jan 2013

and a nice retirement package. Save a deer and go to jail. Gawd bless America.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Local LE has nothing to do with the world economy. They're just being assholes.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see that the word 'possession' can be interpreted differently. They should have let this go long ago.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
4. This is a statement on just how fucked up America is
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jan 2013

Not a statement on law enforcement jurisdiction or anything.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
11. What they did was illegal
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jan 2013

And harmful in general.

Deer are not pets.

They were right to rescue it, but should have called any number of animal rescue groups to to do it the right way.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
16. How was the deer harmed by nursing the animal back to good health....
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

....with the intent to release the animal back into the wild? What could any of the animal rescue groups have done any differently than what the Councellors did?

Additionally, I'm sure Jeff Counceller, who is "a member of the SWAT team in Connersville, president of the local Fraternal Order of Police and someone who once brought in a murderer who killed three people", is pretty squared-away when it comes to the law.

And finally, the deer has already been released into the wild. What exactly is DNR proving by pushing this ill-advised prosecution? Just my opinion, but it seems like they could be using tax dollars to pursue much more current cases.



 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
17. They never released him back into the wild
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

Only did so when Natural Resources came after them.


And many cops think the law doesn't really apply to them.


Prevention. So you are for selective efforcement of laws?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
20. I'm for using common sense in the application of the law....
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

...evidently, that's something neither you nor DNR seem to favor.


 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
22. Very much in favor of common sense
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

Common sense tells me that deer are not pets.

Common sense tells me that a wildlife rehabber should have been called.


So looks like I have common sense. The people and posters defending them - not so much.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
23. They did it wrong
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jan 2013

It would be the same if it was a bear. They should have contacted a wildlife rehabilitator who would have doctored it and raised it with other young deer with a minimum of human interaction so that it would not become habituated to humans. It can be a death sentence to a wild animal to release it if it has no fear of humans in a dozen ways. Since the damage is done, it would have been better for DNR to use this as a teaching tool on what not to do and what TO do if one finds an orphan. It was handled badly all the way around. If it was released I hope it does not approach a hunter.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
28. I agree
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jan 2013

It belongs in the wild and in order to go back into the wild it needs minimal human interaction.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
19. We have pet deer.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jan 2013

They follow us around like puppies and sleep in a shed. They love to be scratched and petted and eat out of our hands.

Also, the buck is very territorial and will keep wild deer out of the vineyard.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
25. Likely because it was so habituated to humans that it couldn't be released.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jan 2013

Wildlife rehab isn't something you try on a whim.

strongermessage

(284 posts)
18. Unbelieveable.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jan 2013

This couple may go to jail because of the illegal possession of one white-tailed dear that they rescued. Yet, it is legal for game preserves not only breed and raise deer, but also to keep them enclosed behind high-wire fences until someone pays to shoot them.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
27. " possession of a deer could foster the transmission of diseases and parasites from animals to human
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jan 2013

Well then all those vets across the country are guilty too. So was my family and I guilty when we saved and fed baby squirrels. What about those who band birds? This is a made up charge by someone who's nose was out of joint or a neighbor with pull who doesn't like animals in the neighborhood. etc.

It's as ridiculous as when that little kindergarten boy kissed his classmate and was expelled for sexual harassment. There are lots of examples of STUPID.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
29. No good deed goes unpunished in a right-wing-soused
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

society wherein reason, common sense, and humanity are most often discarded.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
32. Small town, I'm guessing a personal vendetta against the family.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jan 2013

I can't think of another reason for it to get to this level of ridiculousness.

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