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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:50 AM Jan 2013

America Is Turning Into One Big Prison for People in Debt

http://www.alternet.org/economy/america-turning-one-big-prison-people-debt



Shakespeare’s Polonius offered this classic advice to his son: “neither a borrower nor a lender be.” Many of our nation’s Founding Fathers emphatically saw it otherwise. They often lived by the maxim: always a borrower, never a lender be. As tobacco and rice planters, slave traders, and merchants, as well as land and currency speculators, they depended upon long lines of credit to finance their livelihoods and splendid ways of life. So, too, in those days, did shopkeepers, tradesmen, artisans, and farmers, as well as casual laborers and sailors. Without debt, the seedlings of a commercial economy could never have grown to maturity.

Ben Franklin, however, was wary on the subject. “Rather go to bed supperless than rise in debt” was his warning, and even now his cautionary words carry great moral weight. We worry about debt, yet we can’t live without it.

Debt remains, as it long has been, the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde of capitalism. For a small minority, it’s a blessing; for others a curse. For some the moral burden of carrying debt is a heavy one, and no one lets them forget it. For privileged others, debt bears no moral baggage at all, presents itself as an opportunity to prosper, and if things go wrong can be dumped without a qualm.

Those who view debt with a smiley face as the royal road to wealth accumulation and tend to be forgiven if their default is large enough almost invariably come from the top rungs of the economic hierarchy. Then there are the rest of us, who get scolded for our impecunious ways, foreclosed upon and dispossessed, leaving behind scars that never fade away and wounds that disable our futures.
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America Is Turning Into One Big Prison for People in Debt (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2013 OP
I have a recollection dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #1
Debt = a method of capital accumulation: get the rubes & small players in debt then buy their HiPointDem Jan 2013 #2
yes. i've been linking articles about investment firms xchrom Jan 2013 #3
why indeed. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #4
... Scuba Jan 2013 #5
+1 xchrom Jan 2013 #6
I'd be interested to see the context of the Henry Ford quote caraher Jan 2013 #7
Uhhm you do know he was talking about "jewish bankers", don't you? CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #9
The tactics of the banksters transcends their faith. Scuba Jan 2013 #10
yeah but we get to have our guns SHRED Jan 2013 #8
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
2. Debt = a method of capital accumulation: get the rubes & small players in debt then buy their
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jan 2013

property in the fire sale that follows.

Historically, that's what's happened -- look at the great depression.

Each big debt wave is followed by a period of consolidation of capital; monopoly grows, ownership shrinks.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. yes. i've been linking articles about investment firms
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:52 AM
Jan 2013

buying up a sizable amount of homes.

now, why would investment firms do such a thing?

caraher

(6,278 posts)
7. I'd be interested to see the context of the Henry Ford quote
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:53 AM
Jan 2013

I was watching the new PBS documentary on Ford last night, and it sounds like it might have been part of his anti-Semitic ranting. On the show they mentioned the years when he bought and published The Dearborn Independent and distributed it not only by subscription but through Ford showrooms nationwide. The very first Ford-published issue began with a Hitler-worthy screed hitting all the usual charges made by those charges a Jewish conspiracy to control the world, include their alleged control of the banking system. (He also printed the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion;" he later apologized publicly, but in private continued to complain about "the Jews.&quot

Casual Googling did not find the source for me, and only one preceding line...


“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”


The quote seems to be extremely popular on conspiracy theory sites.

It could well be from The Dearborn Independent, judging from this line from [link:http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/ford1.html|a summary of what Ford published there:
]
The Independent charged that the national debt was Jewish-inspired to enslave Americans, and that German Jewish financier Paul Warburg had emigrated to America “for the express purpose of changing our financial system” by creating the Federal Reserve.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
9. Uhhm you do know he was talking about "jewish bankers", don't you?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jan 2013

Ford was a notorious anti-semite who truly believed "the jews" controlled banking. I would not quote that man for any fucking thing.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. The tactics of the banksters transcends their faith.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:07 AM
Jan 2013

This quote is about bankers, nothing more.

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