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rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:02 AM Jan 2012

My take on Apple/FoxConn - Apple SUCKS!

As do all of the companies that do business with these Chinese Contract Manufacturers. It isn't just Apple, it isn't just FoxConn, it is Dell, Motorola, Flextronics, all of them that take advantage of a group of workers.

That being said, all of us suck a bit for supporting these companies, me with my iPad purchase, IMac purchase, laptop, etc.

The solution isn't to fight amongst ourselves over mac vs microsoft or iphone vs android phone. The solution will be realized when we all realize that we may need to make a stand, do without and be vocal why we are doing without. Even if I have to live without my iPod Nano, which I think is the coolest, for a couple of years.

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My take on Apple/FoxConn - Apple SUCKS! (Original Post) rufus dog Jan 2012 OP
really? rufus dog Jan 2012 #1
That's what I find interesting about this whole thing... Javaman Jan 2012 #2
And I find it odd that you replied to your own post as if you were talking to yourself. nt Javaman Jan 2012 #4
Preventative Measure proofinlife Sep 2012 #6
every single person posting a view on DU is complicit. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #3
Exactly right. for example: anyone wearing jeans is a part of the problem... Javaman Jan 2012 #5
 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
1. really?
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:30 AM
Jan 2012

Not one person can step up for human rights?

I am going to go a year without making an itunes purchase.

I am going to go a year without buying an iPhone or Motorola Phone.

I am going to go a year without buying an XBox or PlayStation.

REALLY?

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
2. That's what I find interesting about this whole thing...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jan 2012

here on DU.

There seems to be a conscious pile on of apple while a whole list of companies are equally guilty.

There was a study done a few years back regarding the success of people, companies and products.

There is a certain cult like following that happens with all successful products, but then there is a break point, where the product, brand, person or corporation is no longer "cool". Sometimes it happens because the person, corp, item, etc because too successful. Sometimes it's media saturation. Sometimes it's because if it's business practices and sometimes, this is the oddlest one, just because. No reason. People just start not only disliking something but truly start hating what ever it is. As if it were a personal afront.

I find it completely fasinating.

as for apple, I use them but I also use PC's. I never was one to be part of the cult of anything. To me various product cults are just anothe form of religion.

I digress.

Any corporation who willingly uses slave labor for the manufacture of their various gewgaws, deserves to have a spot light upon them. Apple, due to their success, now has the biggest and brightest light upon them. However, if this had come to light, say 12 years ago, Dell would have had the spot light. Or if it were just a few years ago or LG or Samsung would have had that spot light.

people love to hate, but given the circumstances, the anger is justified, however, it should be pointed at the tech industry as a whole. While we should expect any corporation to be responcible in their labor practices, it becomes a ridiculous argument to single out apple and not take the others to task as well.

proofinlife

(1 post)
6. Preventative Measure
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:41 PM
Sep 2012

I have NEVER bought from ANY of those companies that you're going on a huge rant to "make a stand". Is this some sort of guilt trip because you just realized you've been supporting oppression for so many years?

Stick with Japanese and Taiwanese tech, ASUS and Gigabyte ftw

piratefish08

(3,133 posts)
3. every single person posting a view on DU is complicit.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:30 AM
Jan 2012

human rights abuses take place LONG before Foxconn enters the supply chain.

children are sick and dying in the Congo so Foxconn and others can make shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
5. Exactly right. for example: anyone wearing jeans is a part of the problem...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jan 2012

the indigo used in the dying process gets washed into rivers in both Mexico and Viet Nam.

Before they were offshored the process of dying jeans was regulated here in the states.

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