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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:45 PM Jan 2013

Senator (Leahy) Catches NRA Head In Epic Flip Flop

Senator Catches NRA Head In Epic Flip Flop

By Igor Volsky

Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) caught National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre in a significant contradiction during Wednesday’s hearing on preventing gun violence. Since the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut the nation’s most influential gun lobby has opposed the growing bipartisan push for universal background checks, arguing that such a policy would infringe on the Second Amendment rights of law abiding Americans. But as Leahy pointed out, the group has supported the reasonable background checks in the past.

Under current law, gun purchasers buying firearms from federally licensed dealers are subject to background checks. As a result, more than 2 million applicants have been prohibited from purchasing guns. Unfortunately, 40 percent of firearm acquisitions are from individuals who are not licensed gun dealers and do not undergo any background checks. Gun safety advocates have sought to close the loophole for years and in the 1999, the NRA backed this effort.

“We think it is reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show,” LaPierre said during a hearing held on May 27, 1999, in the wake of the Columbine High School shooting. “No loopholes anywhere for anyone. That means closing the Hinckley loophole so the records of those adjudicated mentally ill are in the system.”

Leahy pressed LaPierre on why the organization has since changed its mind:

LEAHY: Do you still, as you did in 1999, still support mandatory background checks at gun shows? Yes or no?

LAPIERRE: We support the national check system on dealers. We were here when one of your colleagues held the hearings in terms of who would be a dealer and who would be required to have a license. If you did it for live the good and profit, yes. If you did it for a hobby, no. <...>

LEAHY: You do not support background checks in all instances at gun shows?

LAPIERRE: We do not, because the fact is, the law right now is a feel your the way it is working. You have 76,000 people that have been denied under the present law. Only 44 were prosecuted. You are letting them go. They’re walking the street.

LEAHY: Back in 1999, you said no loopholes anywhere for anyone. But now you do not support a background checks for all buyers of firearms?

LAPIERRE: The system the way it is working now is a failure. This administration is not prosecuting the people they catch. 22 states are not even putting the mental records of those adjudicated incompetent into the system. If they try to buy a gun, even if you catch them, and they try to walk away, you let them. They are criminals, homicidal maniacs, can’t mentally ill — and mentally ill. We all know that, maniacs and the mentally insane do not abide by the law.

Watch it:

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/01/30/1515911/senator-catches-nra-head-in-epic-flip-flop/


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Senator (Leahy) Catches NRA Head In Epic Flip Flop (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2013 OP
How is it "epic"? dairydog91 Jan 2013 #1
How exactly ProSense Jan 2013 #2
The flip flop is: Zoeisright Jan 2013 #3
How bouts this? Make all gun dealers federally licensed dealers. NO ifs ands or buts. benld74 Jan 2013 #4

dairydog91

(951 posts)
1. How is it "epic"?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jan 2013

The NRA opposes most gun regulation. Isn't he just being more consistent with its overall policy goals?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. How exactly
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

"How is it 'epic'? The NRA opposes most gun regulation. Isn't he just being more consistent with its overall policy goals?"

...does opposing gun regulations negate the "epic" flip flop? I mean, it maybe part of the NRA's stance on opposition, but it's still a flip flop from a stated position.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
3. The flip flop is:
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jan 2013

They oppose the background checks, even though they catch people who should be prosecuted. He's admitting that background checks work and they catch those who should not have guns.

That's like saying I oppose laws against speeding because speeders aren't prosecuted.

Try to keep up.

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