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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:38 AM Jan 2012

Special Forces soldier 'used an electric dog collar on two young girls

A Special Forces soldier has been jailed after being accused of using an electric dog collar to punish two small children.
Michael Lee Mitchell is also accused of torturing the girls by making them carry out extreme physical exercise until they vomited.




A Special Forces soldier has been jailed after being accused of using an electric dog collar to punish two small children.
Michael Lee Mitchell is also accused of torturing the girls by making them carry out extreme physical exercise until they vomited.The eight-year-old girl told authorities Mitchell would put the dog collar on arm after and use it to shock her if she stopped running.

Army Special Forces soldier Michael Lee Mitchell is accused of punishing two young girls with extreme physical activity and electric dog collar shocks
She told police Mitchell threatened to put the device on her neck before wrapping it around her arm.She told Sheriff's Deputies that Mitchell, who is with the Army’s 7th Special Forces, made her run alongside his car for up to three miles.

When she collapsed from exhaustion the dog collar, which emits a small charges and is used to train dogs, was placed on her arm and switched on until she got up.
The four-year-old had the electric collar placed round her waist, according to police.
Investigators said the alleged abuse was carried out by Mitchell's at his home in Crestview, Florida.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092241/Special-Forces-soldier-used-electric-dog-collar-young-girls-forced-run-sprints.html#ixzz1keMCM478

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Special Forces soldier 'used an electric dog collar on two young girls (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 OP
Bastard MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #1
WTF is wrong with these people malaise Jan 2012 #2
disgusting, nt limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #3
You are gonna see more of this Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #4
Where could he have learned all that? eShirl Jan 2012 #5
Awful.... moriah Jan 2012 #6
As an aside, theaocp Jan 2012 #7
That keeps pets out of the toilet, and avoids butt-in-cold-water-in-middle-of-night. moriah Jan 2012 #8
That's the default position at our house. eShirl Jan 2012 #10
and I am sure crap like this is done in countries we occupy newfie11 Jan 2012 #9
If you read further down it says his unit Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #11
yeah I did read that newfie11 Jan 2012 #15
Judge the individual, not his place of work... dannytanner Jan 2012 #17
Terrible. LiberalLoner Jan 2012 #12
Yes, the friends that made back from Nam were damaged Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #13
US sources don't mention he was special forces only GB Ichingcarpenter Jan 2012 #14
He is a disgrace to the entire SF community. Spoonman Jan 2012 #16
He's a disgrace to himself, not the SF community... dannytanner Jan 2012 #18

moriah

(8,311 posts)
6. Awful....
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:43 AM
Jan 2012

.... but I have to admit something... maybe it's because I studied behaviorism... and maybe because I'm re-watching Season 3 of Big Bang Theory and had a recent reminder of positive and negative reinforcement... or maybe it's the part of me that wants to put a collar on THAT guys neck and show him how it felt...

It crossed my mind that such a device would be a very effective way to train a spouse not to do things, like, oh, leave the toilet seat up....

Actually, Sheldon's idea of chocolates would be a better one -- positive reinforcement is more effective than negative.

theaocp

(4,236 posts)
7. As an aside,
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jan 2012

this thought just crossed my mind. As a guy, I just happen to put the toilet COVER down because I think it's more aesthetically pleasing than an open toilet, seat down or no. Is that on the same level as having the seat itself down, rather than up? It's the same amount of effort for the next person to use the throne, yes? Just curious.

Oh, and please just leave this fucker in the middle of the pacific. He's special forces, so he can swim. Good luck to him.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
8. That keeps pets out of the toilet, and avoids butt-in-cold-water-in-middle-of-night.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:25 AM
Jan 2012

Good in my book

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
10. That's the default position at our house.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:30 AM
Jan 2012

The cat has a fascination with pawing water surfaces.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
9. and I am sure crap like this is done in countries we occupy
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:29 AM
Jan 2012

by sadistic assholes that joined just to kill and/or torture people.
I hope this idiot stays in jail for a lifetime!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. If you read further down it says his unit
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:41 AM
Jan 2012

The 7th Special Forces Group, based at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, are heavily involved in military operations in Afghanistan.






The official duties of soldiers from the unit are listed as 'Unconventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defense, Special Reconnaissance, Direct Action, Combating Terrorism, Counter-proliferation, and Information Operations

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newfie11

(8,159 posts)
15. yeah I did read that
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jan 2012

Yes maybe it is related to his training and stress but maybe he got into military because of a wish to kill/hurt people.

I hope he gets help and is never around those kids again.

dannytanner

(2 posts)
17. Judge the individual, not his place of work...
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:52 AM
Jan 2012

Last edited Sun Jan 29, 2012, 07:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Just for the record, Mr. Mitchell is not, in fact, a Green Beret or an Army Special Forces Soldier. He is a mechanic (Military Occupation Specialty, 91B) assigned to a Special Forces unit to repair vehicles operated by Army Special Forces Soldiers. Just like a waterboy who works for the Yankees is not in fact a Yankees player, Mitchell is not a Green Beret.

Yes, you are correct in stating that Special Forces Groups are assigned to conduct duties in "Uncoventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defense, Direct Action, Special Reconnaisance, and Counter-Terrorism." However, you are incorrect in assuming that Mr. Mitchell is assigned to conduct those missions. He is assigned to identify faults in vehicles and repair them. He is not Special Forces and is not a Green Beret.

I don't mention this to condone his behavior, but instead to hopefully work to rebuild a reputation for the Special Forces soldier who typically goes through 2 years of additional training and screening to earn the coveted green beret...screening which includes psychological evaluations. Mr. Mitchell has lost his reputation, but let's not allow that to bring down the reputation of a unit that has participated in Colombian military operations that have resulted in the freedom of hostages (one of which was the former Presidential Candidate Ingrid Betancourt). The 7th Special Forces Group has been conduct specialized operations in South America and the rest of the world since World War II.

If the argument is that his "training" made him this way, then we should all be weary of taking our kids to Jiffy Lube for the next oil change...

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
12. Terrible.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jan 2012

I think people often don't understand the extent that military families pay for war. After my father came home from Vietnam, my mother ended up calling my Aunt and begged her to stay with us and calm my father down because she was afraid my father was going to kill her and/or us kids. My Aunt came and stayed over a month, at which time my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer and given less than a year to live. That seemed to calm my father down a lot but he was still called "a monster" by all my relatives who ever spent any time around him.

All of us kids grew up to attempt suicide, sometimes more than once, and my brother is now dying of alcoholism and my sister is not in good mental health and has an eating disorder. As for me...I hide from life. All I want is to be safe. That's all I ever dreamed about as a kid, just being somewhere safe where no one could hurt me. That's what I've achieved as an adult but I know that I am hiding from life. The fear never goes away, not really.

I wonder how these girls will be when they grow up? Will they attempt suicide? Drink themselves to death or use the needle? Their father has taught them how to hate themselves and most likely they won't get the help they need.

Yeah, military families serve, too. They pay a price, too.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
13. Yes, the friends that made back from Nam were damaged
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:58 AM
Jan 2012

Two didn't make it back.

However the article was not clear on his relationship
with the girls, they never mention daughters but I assumed they lived with him.





'Under privacy rules, the sheriff's office could not disclose Mitchell's relationship to the girls '

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Spoonman

(1,761 posts)
16. He is a disgrace to the entire SF community.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jan 2012

I for one would relish the opportunity to strap the shock collar around his testicles and tape the button on the remote down until the batteries went dead.
(I would first make it had brand new “bunnies” in it)

dannytanner

(2 posts)
18. He's a disgrace to himself, not the SF community...
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:57 AM
Jan 2012

This guy is clearly sick. But he's not Special Forces. He's a mechanic. Pretty big difference. He has had no additional military training. He is simply assigned to a Special Forces unit to fix vehicles. He would have done this whether he was assigned to an SF unit or Transportation unit. Where he works is irrelevant.

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