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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:37 PM Jan 2013

If congress actually passes a law requiring private gun sales background checks what...

should the penalty be for bypassing the background check and selling a gun to someone?

Felony? Jail? Fine?

Also, seems like it would be almost impossible to catch someone still doing private sales unless there are sting operations. Two friends could do it and no one would ever know.




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If congress actually passes a law requiring private gun sales background checks what... (Original Post) Logical Jan 2013 OP
Look at straw purchases... same penalties for starters nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #1
Re-task the marijuana patrol, see how many they can catch. Robb Jan 2013 #2
Umm, the "marijuana patrol" is not exactly a rousing success story. dairydog91 Jan 2013 #5
Felony, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #3
Background checks should be accompanied by registration. jmg257 Jan 2013 #4
There is already a law prohibiting licensed dealers from bypassing/skipping petronius Jan 2013 #6
Felony trafficking for most cases, and yes, there should be stings, and lots of them alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #7
Charge 'em with a felony... Earth_First Jan 2013 #8

Robb

(39,665 posts)
2. Re-task the marijuana patrol, see how many they can catch.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not convinced this will be difficult to police.

And penalty should include fines, jail, and being prohibited from owning firearms.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
5. Umm, the "marijuana patrol" is not exactly a rousing success story.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jan 2013
I'm not convinced this will be difficult to police.
300+ million items, most unregistered, with no starting point to determine who legally owns them or where they are? Sounds difficult to me.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
3. Felony, Sir
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jan 2013

In addition, should the gun come into police hands as result of a crime committed employing it, the last known legal owner should be considered an accomplice to whatever crime the gun was involved in.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
4. Background checks should be accompanied by registration.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jan 2013

Felony should be a good start...2 years mandatory.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
6. There is already a law prohibiting licensed dealers from bypassing/skipping
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:30 PM
Jan 2013

the background check (18 USC 922t). The penalty appears to be a maximum of one year in prison (18 USC 922.a.5) and/or a fine.

On the other hand, knowing sale to a prohibited person comes with a maximum of 10 years, and knowingly making false statements on the forms gets a maximum of 5...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. Felony trafficking for most cases, and yes, there should be stings, and lots of them
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jan 2013

This is how legal guns enter the illicit market. This is the pipeline for the gangs and felons. We should have major ATF task forces running stings on the gun dealers and anyone else who is feeding guns to the illicit market.

Federal prison time. Real felony.

They're fucking killing us in Chicago, these "friends" selling guns through untrackable, no background private sales.

They're fucking killing us.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
8. Charge 'em with a felony...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jan 2013

It just so happens that felons can no longer own firearms, so maybe the threat of losing one's firearms will be enough of a deterrant.

However, methinks not...

At any rate, it will take some firearms owners off the books.

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