So who is up for sleuthing out this Pelosi hint about something that makes Newt unelectable?

[Generic Other]

I just saw her say on video that Newt "would never be president." Apparently she has now stated this twice. And quite adamantly.

Here's a cryptic remark she made on Today:

A day later, her spokesman indicated that the "something" that Pelosi claims to have is available to the public if they look for it. Pelosi has not commented directly on the subject since her interview with King on Tuesday.

"Leader Pelosi previously made a reference to the extensive amount of information that is in the public record, including the comprehensive committee report with which the public may not be fully aware," Hammill said.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46147307/ns/today-today_people/t/pelosi-vs-gingrich-what-something-does-she-know/#.TyNlP_nNkqM

Anyone have any clue what she might be referring to?

[unkachuck]

1. I think they had sex in the House canteen....n/t

[BadGimp]

9. My eyes. My eyes. OMg

Thx a pile

[MADem]

24. I heard he and Callista used to really get down and dirty in the Speeeeekah's offices...nt

[randome]

2. Yeah, yeah, give it a break.

Something she said was taken out of context. There is no 'master plan' any more than Wikileaks is saving up its ammo for the 'right time' or Karl Rove is about to be indicted any day now.

We need to stop looking for saviors to drop victory into our hands.

[Generic Other]

6. I am not at all interested in a "master plan" to defeat him since he isn't going to win IMO

I am just being snoopy. Probably, I have come late to the conversation.

I was hoping someone on this site could fill me in on what she meant. I am not really up on my Newtlore.

[randome]

8. Then my apologies.

I've seen too many 'maybe they're going to save us' posts on this subject and others. IMO, she wasn't hinting at anything and if anyone had ammo to use against the GOP, it would make no sense to hold back until the 'right time'.

The 'right time' to destroy your opponents is always NOW.

[SwampG8r]

22. in this case the right time most likely was THEN but NOW will do

i cant stand that smug bastard

[Generic Brad]

3. Newt makes Newt unelectable

Have you heard his ideas? That nonsense won't sell to the majority of American voters.

[Generic Other]

7. I am sure you are right about that

The crack he made about Pelosi being from San Francisco where they live in a "fantasy" did not sound like the words of a man who had a strategy for winning a presidential election. A win in the SC primary is nothing really.

I am curious though about the backstory. Newt is ancient history to many voters including me. I am flabbergasted they dusted him off and brought him out of the retirement center.

[Johonny]

25. I agree, If Pelosi said Charlie Manson would never be president

Republicans would wast countless hour looking for the secret why she thinks he is unelectable.

what secrets? All Newts crap is out in the open for years and years and would scare a sane voter away.

[arely staircase]

4. i think she has said the context was

THERE (kinda as in THAT) is something i know - he will never be elected president. Meaning the thing she knows is that he can't be elected.

[Nictuku]

5. Google Gingrich Bribery Scandal

I'd bet that is what it is about (bribery involving Israelis who wanted the arms embargo lifted against Saddam Hussain).

[SaintPete]

10. This is the report, I believe...

In 4 parts. I'm posting now, then skipping to the end of part 4 to see if there is anything there that is provocative.

http://ethics.house.gov/committee-report/matter-representative-newt-gingrich

[Major Hogwash]

11. Noot had sex with another woman, not his wife.

And not Callista, either.

[Generic Other]

13. Disgusting as the thought is

This is what I was thinking.

[Major Nikon]

12. She worked with him and knows exactly how much of a fuck-up he is

Newt comes across well to some people because he gives the impression that he knows what he's talking about. However, the more he talks, the more you realize he doesn't have a fucking clue. That's why many people on both sides of the isle that know Newt well can't stand him. Romney was right. Newt resigned in disgrace as House Speaker. Even the GOP couldn't stand him.

[Generic Other]

14. And Bob Dole too

"Hardly anyone who served with Newt in Congress has endorsed him and that fact speaks for itself," Dole wrote in the letter.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11386533/1/bob-dole-once-tried-to-help-gingrich-pay-fine.html

[Major Nikon]

17. He's right

I think it's possible the GOP leadership knew of Gingrich's philandering during the impeachment of Clinton and one of the reasons, if not the main reason, they forced him to resign was because they were afraid he was going to take the whole party down with him. Had the public known, he would have.

[XemaSab]

15. If she wanted to KILL his career

She'd come right out and endorse him.

[Ruby the Liberal]

16. There is a FOIA request on the documents from when the Ethics committee

investigated him back in the 90s before he resigned in disgrace.

She was on that committee.

[appleannie1]

18. I know he paid over $300,000 for ethics violations when Speaker.

[Samantha]

19. I have a possible theory (no facts)

It might be possible that Ethics Committee recommended that Gingrich not be allowed to hold any office of public trust. There were many counts that were dismissed. That leads one to think about how things work in Washington -- the Committee "gave" him a break of some of the counts but he would have had to have given back. Perhaps because of the amount of the fine being reduced he signed off on conditions the Committee submitted, thinking if some of the counts were dismissed the fine would not be as horrific. (As it was, someone else paid the $300,000 fine on his behalf -- might have been Dole, can't remember for sure.)

Gingrich probably figured at that time he didn't care if he worked for the Federal Government or any state government the rest of his life in an elected capacity because he planned to move into the private sector and make a substantial amount more in money.

I was researching this the other evening and saw that when a member of Congress is impeached and found guilty, that member would be barred for ever again holding an office of public trust. So perhaps it was one of the Committee's recommendation that this prohibition be applied to Gingrich since obviously there was a model in place that justified such recommendation, and perhaps for the reasons above Gingrich signed off on all the conditions the Committee required, leaving just the one ethics charge.

So if that were true, Gingrich would be barred from ever holding the Office of the President of the United States.

When Nancy Pelosi said he would never be President of the United States, the Republicans could nominate him, that was closely followed by the phrase "I know things." It was just the way she said it that made me jump to the conclusion she, as a member of that Committee, knew Gingrich would never hold another office of public trust.

Okay, taking off my conspiracy hat now, and waiting for your chastisements....

Sam

[Generic Other]

26. backroom deals sound like Congress's MO

Everything Gingrich evokes memories of the impeachment years, the years of all those old farts and their mistresses. There were a lot of shenanigans going on and it clearly never was just Clinton. Obviously there were sex scandals simmering in just about every closet back then. Sounds like bribes disguised as lobby money too. All that Scaife, Koch, Heritage Foundation stuff. They have been operating just beneath the surface for a lot of years too. Gingrich's era were their formatiove years. Wonder how involved these folks might have been in setting up Clinton?

Just so many possible reasons why Gingrich should be unelectable.

[Samantha]

28. Just two things to say in response to your astute post

Speaking of background deals, are you aware that the reps of George H.W. Bush scoured the field pre-1992 for candidates that could possibly deny the elder Bush a second term. The only possibility they saw was Clinton. A backroom deal was floated to Clinton that if he sat out the 1992 election, four years later he could run and there would be no serious Republican opposition. Clinton declined the offer. He won the election, and from that day on, a group of people seriously furious with him for unseating George H.W. Bush, started a series of meeting to scandalize Clinton and to make his Presidency ineffective. They kept at it for years.

Second, were you familiar with Clinton's response to the Republicans regarding the threat to impeach him? (I have to confess, at this time I was a Republican, so then I was not defending the man, just paying close attention to matters as they unraveled.) He said there were so many members of Congress participating in behavior equal to or worse than his own, and if they proceeded down the Impeachment road in all their hypocrisy, he would leak the names of those with checkered behavior (and that is putting it politely) as well as the names of those with whom they were involved. The Republicans did not back down, and neither did Clinton. When that article was printed in Salon, I was appalled at what I read, I left the Republican party. I could not be associated with that kind of hypocrisy. One of the worst was Henry Hyde, who personally hand-delivered the articles of impeachment. He had a long-term mistress. And the list went on from there.

Sam

[Motown_Johnny]

20. She may know some (R)s in The House who will come out against him

if he even gets close.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. Her campaign said today she was referencing stuff already in the public record.

So the sleuthing should be easy.

[Capitalocracy]

23. If Newt is electable now, not even murdering hobos for fun will change it.

If they're willing to elect him now (which I'm not so sure they are) then people are willing to overlook anything.

And besides, if it did come out that he liked to murder hobos for fun, he'd just be like, "Well, I just love America so much, and I get so passionate about it, that I just have to find some poor homeless person and grab his throat and just throttle the life out of him. And then go cheat on my ailing wife."

[Generic Other]

27. They overlooked Bush and Cheney's total unsuitability

so I won't put anything past them.