Fox News Claims Solar Won't Work in America Because It's Not Sunny Like Germany
Ah, the Sun baked beaches of Germany in the dead of winter, where southern europeans go in winter.
Thanks to Fox News and its expert commentators, millions of Americans now understand the real, hidden reason why Germany's solar-energy industry is so much further along than ours. Turns out it has nothing to do with the fact that Germany's government has long supported the industry far more generously, with policies like feed-in tariffs that stimulate investment in green technologies. No, the real reason is much simpler, explained a trio of journalists on Fox & Friends: It's always sunny in Germany!
"The industry's future looks dim," intoned host Gretchen Carlson at the beginning of the segment, which was preserved for posterity by the liberal blog Media Matters for America. She and her co-host went on to ridicule Obama's "failed" solar subsidies, adding, "The United States simply hasn't figured out how to do solar cheaply and effectively. You look at the country of Germany, it's working out great for them." Near the end of the segment, it occurred to Carlson to ask her expert guest, Fox Business reporter Shibani Joshi, why it might be that Germany's solar-power sector is doing so much better. "What was Germany doing correct? Are they just a smaller country, and that made it more feasible?" Carlson asked.
Joshi's jaw-dropping response: "They're a smaller country, and they've got lots of sun. Right? They've got a lot more sun than we do." In case that wasn't clear enough for some viewers, Joshi went on: "The problem is it's a cloudy day and it's raining, you're not gonna have it." Sure, California might get sun now and then, Joshi conceded, "but here on the East Coast, it's just not going to work'
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/07/fox_news_expert_on_solar_energy_germany_gets_a_lot_more_sun_than_we_do_video.html
Washington State gets tons more sun than Germany. Germany is around Hudson's Bay Latitude
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........ FAUX provides their own parody! 
it keeps getting harder and harder to parody these people.
That's another point we should make, Faux destroys jobs!
on the great central German desert 
It was sunny only about 80% of the time. And even when it would rain, usually the clouds would show up, rain and be gone within a couple of hours, the rest of the day would be more of the same old sunny.
That of course is nothing compared to Germany, where it's sunny 138% of the time!
But then I wonder how many in Fox's audience could even find Germany on a map, much less have been there. So how would they know it's bullshit?
Where the hell did they get this Joshi "MORAN"? Buwahahahhahaa!
Solarpark Finsterwalde
Solarpark Bruck Edit-Add--yeah that's not very big so here's Kothen:
Solarpark Kothen
Solarpark Liberose
Solarprk Senftenberg
Solar power in Germany
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany
Germany is one of the world's top photovoltaics (PV) installers, with a solar PV capacity as of 2011 of almost 25 gigawatts (GW). As of 31st of October 2012, there were 31.62 GW of photovoltaics connected to the electrical power network. The German solar PV industry increased to about 7.6 GW in 2012, and solar PV provided 18 TWh (billion kilowatt-hours) of electricity in 2011, about 3% of total electricity. Some market analysts expect this could reach 25 percent by 2050. Germany has a goal of producing 35% of electricity from renewable sources by 2020 and 100% by 2050.
A feed-in tariff is the most effective means of developing solar power. It is the same as a power purchase agreement, but is at a much higher rate. As the industry matures, it is reduced and becomes the same as a power purchase agreement. A feed-in tariff allows investors a guaranteed return on investment - a requirement for development. A primary difference between a tax credit and a feed-in tariff is that the cost is born the year of installation with a tax credit, and is spread out over many years with a feed-in tariff. In both cases the incentive cost is distributed over all consumers. This means that the initial cost is very low for a feed-in tariff and very high for a tax credit. In both cases the learning curve reduces the cost of installation, but is not a large contribution to growth, as grid parity is still always reached.
Will Obama keep his promise to put Solar on the White House in his second term?
The US could be energy independent, if we wanted to. But the "leaders" do not want. It's that simple. The question is why.
That Germany leads the US in Solar is a major embarrassment. Shame on US.
And why didn't Clinton do anything at all, during the boom years?
Edit: Add- Hudson bay latitude: 60N
Berlin: 52N
Berlin is about 560 miles south of Hudson Bay (a whole 'nother climate)
Washington State:49N
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Neuhardenberg Solar Park is a 145 MW photovoltaic, and Europe's largest solar power station, located at the former Neuhardenberg military airport- Hey we've got lots of those!
Not a single thing about it. Why is that? It's an Ugly Topic? heh
Perhaps this is more pleasing to your eyes:
Land around Fukishima now radioactive dead zone:
Resembles target struck by atomic bomb
had been spent on battery tech we would have better batteries
There are ways to store solar heat too:
Solar Two used molten salt, a combination of 60% sodium nitrate and 40% potassium nitrate, as an energy storage medium instead of oil or water as with Solar One. This helped in energy storage during brief interruptions in sunlight due to clouds.[1] The molten salt also allowed the energy to be stored in large tanks for future use such as night time—Solar Two had sufficient capacity to continue running for up to three hours after the sun had set.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Solar_Project
If some of the http://costofwar.com money had been spent on heat storage we could have better efficiency there too.
But we've got terriers to kill.
and more drones to build, cause there's gonna be 30,000 of them in our skies.
Solar or Drones, serf, which do you prefer?
and building these:
Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo
While Germany has been perfecting this:
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Aren't we all proud?
this might be an appropriate use...
To my memory he appointed his cabinet a week before the election, based on the prediction of his landslide on faux news. This probably came from his Chief of Technology.
Wow, talk about an alternate universe.
Maybe not...
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http://costofwar.com
Ladies and gentlemen... I give you $1 trillion dollars...
http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html
Notice those pallets are double stacked.
...and remember those are $100 bills.
So the next time you hear someone toss around the phrase "trillion dollars"... that's what they're talking about.
shame
you know what you're talking about. 
Trinity University in San Antonio--that used to be their slogan.
There were five military bases in S.A. because it was good flying weather--over 300 days a year of sun.
San Antonio is at 29.23 N Latitute
Houston is at 29.45 N Latitude.
San Angelo is at 31.27 N Latitude. I think they have a military base there.
Cairo, Egypt is at 30.2 N.
Berlin is at 52.30 N.
one of my fav towns.
I was stationed at Pioneer Kaserne, and lived in Erlensee
How could we ever hope to get power from one part of the country to another? We'd need, like, an electrical GRID or something.
in case it's needed 
I've never heard of Joshi before. Now I know why.
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.....let me laugh my ass off at the suggestion Germany has more Sunshine....
1. It has a warm and sunny Mediterranean climate, with olive groves that produce some of the finest olive oil in the world.
2. The German language is not Germanic at all, but evolved as one of the Romance (as in Roman) languages that evolved directly from Latin along with all the other warm & sunny climate Mediterranean countries' languages.
3. Hitler & Mussolini did not not require translators, since their languages were nearly identical (refer to #2 above).
4. The current pope is German, which in ethnic terms is indistiguishable from the long lineage of Italian popes, until recently unbroken for centuries.
5. Most emergency room visits during Oktoberfest are not from acute alcohol toxicity, but from heat stroke, given the spirited outdoor festivities in the blazing hot German sun come autumn.
Since it's not April 1st, all this must be true!
Thanks, DUers for all the LOLs and just plain DUzys. 
