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If Mormons can convert non-mormons after death I have decided to convert all their dead prophets (Original Post) rbrnmw Jan 2012 OP
convert them to Atheism ... zbdent Jan 2012 #1
Seems fair to me after all rbrnmw Jan 2012 #2
Just Fuckin' Great! Carlin....? Bigmack Jan 2012 #5
yes those bastards rbrnmw Jan 2012 #6
Okay, they baptized Pope John Paul II. white_wolf Jan 2012 #14
yes it appears they do rbrnmw Jan 2012 #18
I was thinking Church Of Satan myself. Edweird Jan 2012 #3
Honestly...we need like a Burning Man thing were we take back... Tikki Jan 2012 #4
Very offensive rbrnmw Jan 2012 #7
LOL GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #8
Hey GPV...just Grand to see you here... Tikki Jan 2012 #10
We surely are! *hugs* I think it is a control thing, although it's GreenPartyVoter Jan 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #9
One of my brother's whole family are Mormons. white_wolf Jan 2012 #13
I would suggest several possibilities LiberalFighter Jan 2012 #21
In my genealogy search, HockeyMom Jan 2012 #11
I still think the lot of you are makeing this up. nt wandy Jan 2012 #12
Baptizing for the dead is real. Whether that list posted above is accurate, I don't know. white_wolf Jan 2012 #15
I don't think most people on this site understand posthumous baptisms metalbot Jan 2012 #17
Because they have no right to do it that's why rbrnmw Jan 2012 #19
"Since most people never had the chance to be baptized"...You have got to be kidding me... Tikki Jan 2012 #23
Wasn't it enough pulling this crap while you're alive? Major Nikon Jan 2012 #24
yeah and if you are even remotely polite to them rbrnmw Jan 2012 #25
I had to threaten to turn the dogs out on them a few months ago Major Nikon Jan 2012 #26
Great article rbrnmw Jan 2012 #27
Good point customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #28
I just want to convince living ones to stop persecuting gays and other minorities. dimbear Jan 2012 #20
I care about the policies Romney would implement as President. I care what people he would appoint Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #22

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
2. Seems fair to me after all
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jan 2012

They baptized John Lennon and George Carlin after death

edit and Karl Marx

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
5. Just Fuckin' Great! Carlin....?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jan 2012

They had to pick on Carlin after he was dead.... he'd have massacred them if he was still alive.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
14. Okay, they baptized Pope John Paul II.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jan 2012

If I was a Catholic, I"d find that extremely offensive. Oh, and Stalin's on the list too. Do they just baptize every famous person they can think of?

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
4. Honestly...we need like a Burning Man thing were we take back...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 07:22 PM
Jan 2012

all the sh*t placed on our dead ancestors.

Many cultures revere their departed family members
and would do anything to protect their memory.

This mormon thing is disrespectful and contemptuous.

Tikki


Tikki

(14,556 posts)
10. Hey GPV...just Grand to see you here...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012
Bet you're digging the new digs

I don't understand why this church would purposely hurt the
feelings of the families of departed people.

Is it like a control thing?

I am betting other religions find this just wrong.

Tikki

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
16. We surely are! *hugs* I think it is a control thing, although it's
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:51 PM
Jan 2012

like the evangelicals who are always trying to convert the living, I think ultimately they _think_ they are doing "the right thing" rather than acting out of malice. At least most of them, anyway.

Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
13. One of my brother's whole family are Mormons.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jan 2012

If any of them outlive me, I should probably put something in my will telling them not to baptize me.

LiberalFighter

(50,871 posts)
21. I would suggest several possibilities
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:16 PM
Jan 2012

1) If they baptize you anything willed to them will require them to return and the estate donates to a charity that offends them.

2) If they baptize you then they must submit to being baptized into the Muslim faith. Or just have it arranged by someone in the estate to baptize them.

3) If they baptize you then have the estate arrange for the estate to call them for 90 days and let them know it is time to face Mecca and pray before each time allotted.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
11. In my genealogy search,
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jan 2012

I think someone in the LDS church may have baptized my Grandfather. Knowing Grandpa, I don't think he would have cared if he was baptized by a Morman, Protestant, or Catholic. He wasn't religious at all, until his dying day,

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
17. I don't think most people on this site understand posthumous baptisms
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jan 2012

The mormon posthumous baptism doesn't "convert" a non-mormon to the LDS church, even according to LDS doctrine.

Essentially, the church teaches that in order to enter the "good heaven", you need to be baptized. Since most people never had the opportunity to be baptized, Mormons perform a baptism by proxy, in which the deceased are OFFERED a baptism, which they are free to accept or decline in the afterlife.

I don't see why people are so offended by this. They are basically doing for the dead what the missionaries do every day. After a baptism by proxy, it's not as if there are a bunch of Mormons in the temple high-fiving each other saying "We got another one!"

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
23. "Since most people never had the chance to be baptized"...You have got to be kidding me...
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jan 2012

..the mormon missionaries are every where.


Tikki

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
24. Wasn't it enough pulling this crap while you're alive?
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jan 2012

They peddle around on their bicycles in their wal-mart slacks and ties banging on your door at 9am on a fuckin Saturday shoving pamphlets in your face. As if this weren't bad enough, now they have to bug the shit out of you when yer dead? Fuck that. Leave the dead alone.

And yes, it is offensive. Damn offensive even. It's an insult to anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. I don't have to understand it, nor do I care to. It's all nutty hocus pocus bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
25. yeah and if you are even remotely polite to them
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jan 2012

they will hound your ass until you move. Then when you die they still wanna give you a chance to convert fuck that leave me and my dead ancestors the hell alone

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
26. I had to threaten to turn the dogs out on them a few months ago
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jan 2012

...after I say "not interested" for the third time, my patience starts to slip.

Had I done so, I think the worst they would have gotten was paw prints on their white shirts from my border collies wanting to play.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
28. Good point
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jan 2012

To me, it's no different from a Catholic saying a prayer for the soul of a deceased Jewish friend. No harm, no foul, unless they rub your surviving relatives' noses in it. As I recall, the Mormon church doesn't do that.

It's just a silly little ritual to please an invisble skyfather who doesn't really exist in the first place.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
20. I just want to convince living ones to stop persecuting gays and other minorities.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jan 2012

Not much to ask.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
22. I care about the policies Romney would implement as President. I care what people he would appoint
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jan 2012

to the U.S. Supreme Court and numerous other positions. I care about the direction he would lead the country. I don't care about his religious beliefs that have no effect on me or anyone else.

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