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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Mormons can convert non-mormons after death I have decided to convert all their dead prophets
To the church of reality
http://www.churchofreality.org
zbdent
(35,392 posts)and really eff up their system ...
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)They baptized John Lennon and George Carlin after death
edit and Karl Marx
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)They had to pick on Carlin after he was dead.... he'd have massacred them if he was still alive.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)If I was a Catholic, I"d find that extremely offensive. Oh, and Stalin's on the list too. Do they just baptize every famous person they can think of?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)The have no shame
Edweird
(8,570 posts)Tikki
(14,556 posts)all the sh*t placed on our dead ancestors.
Many cultures revere their departed family members
and would do anything to protect their memory.
This mormon thing is disrespectful and contemptuous.
Tikki
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Tikki
(14,556 posts)I don't understand why this church would purposely hurt the
feelings of the families of departed people.
Is it like a control thing?
I am betting other religions find this just wrong.
Tikki
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)like the evangelicals who are always trying to convert the living, I think ultimately they _think_ they are doing "the right thing" rather than acting out of malice. At least most of them, anyway.
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white_wolf
(6,238 posts)If any of them outlive me, I should probably put something in my will telling them not to baptize me.
LiberalFighter
(50,871 posts)1) If they baptize you anything willed to them will require them to return and the estate donates to a charity that offends them.
2) If they baptize you then they must submit to being baptized into the Muslim faith. Or just have it arranged by someone in the estate to baptize them.
3) If they baptize you then have the estate arrange for the estate to call them for 90 days and let them know it is time to face Mecca and pray before each time allotted.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I think someone in the LDS church may have baptized my Grandfather. Knowing Grandpa, I don't think he would have cared if he was baptized by a Morman, Protestant, or Catholic. He wasn't religious at all, until his dying day,
wandy
(3,539 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)Here is the Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead
metalbot
(1,058 posts)The mormon posthumous baptism doesn't "convert" a non-mormon to the LDS church, even according to LDS doctrine.
Essentially, the church teaches that in order to enter the "good heaven", you need to be baptized. Since most people never had the opportunity to be baptized, Mormons perform a baptism by proxy, in which the deceased are OFFERED a baptism, which they are free to accept or decline in the afterlife.
I don't see why people are so offended by this. They are basically doing for the dead what the missionaries do every day. After a baptism by proxy, it's not as if there are a bunch of Mormons in the temple high-fiving each other saying "We got another one!"
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Leave other faiths or non faiths alone
Tikki
(14,556 posts)..the mormon missionaries are every where.
Tikki
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)They peddle around on their bicycles in their wal-mart slacks and ties banging on your door at 9am on a fuckin Saturday shoving pamphlets in your face. As if this weren't bad enough, now they have to bug the shit out of you when yer dead? Fuck that. Leave the dead alone.
And yes, it is offensive. Damn offensive even. It's an insult to anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. I don't have to understand it, nor do I care to. It's all nutty hocus pocus bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)they will hound your ass until you move. Then when you die they still wanna give you a chance to convert fuck that leave me and my dead ancestors the hell alone
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...after I say "not interested" for the third time, my patience starts to slip.
Had I done so, I think the worst they would have gotten was paw prints on their white shirts from my border collies wanting to play.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)To me, it's no different from a Catholic saying a prayer for the soul of a deceased Jewish friend. No harm, no foul, unless they rub your surviving relatives' noses in it. As I recall, the Mormon church doesn't do that.
It's just a silly little ritual to please an invisble skyfather who doesn't really exist in the first place.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Not much to ask.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)to the U.S. Supreme Court and numerous other positions. I care about the direction he would lead the country. I don't care about his religious beliefs that have no effect on me or anyone else.