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SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:43 AM Jan 2012

the state by state speak your mind about...alabama

Last edited Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:45 AM - Edit history (3)

hi
welcome to this experiment
i am a floridian proudly
i am a southerner proudly
i am also a hard working democratic party volunteer proudly
in my red town,in my red county, in my red state
every day knowing that little to no headway will be gained put our heads down and run into a brick wall
i will be honest i expect no congratulations it is done with purely selfish motives
i want my world to be better
i have noticed a trend of what i can only describe as angry dialouge when the south is discussed
so i would like to propose a series of threads i will initiate each day the subject of each to be: the states in alphabetical order
this will allow us all to speak our minds on the values of each state
our first state is
Alabama

i have been there
the people were kind and the food was good
everyone i met at least pretended to make me feel at home in a faraway place

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the state by state speak your mind about...alabama (Original Post) SwampG8r Jan 2012 OP
Alabama. blue neen Jan 2012 #1
i stole it from another thread SwampG8r Jan 2012 #3
It's hard to steal what is freely given hootinholler Jan 2012 #11
one a day? back to edit again SwampG8r Jan 2012 #16
The original idea was one a week... hootinholler Jan 2012 #19
too late i changed it SwampG8r Jan 2012 #20
I have only really driven through Alabama on my way toward Denver FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #2
best bbq in the south SwampG8r Jan 2012 #4
I have never been to Alabama, my dear SwampG8r... CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2012 #5
a place called little pauls SwampG8r Jan 2012 #7
Never been there. Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #6
oh alabama seafood SwampG8r Jan 2012 #8
Never been there... catnhatnh Jan 2012 #9
Neil Young wrote a song about it RZM Jan 2012 #10
a southern man dont need him around anyhow SwampG8r Jan 2012 #15
more on that subject Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #40
I Grew Up There lacrew Jan 2012 #12
every time i have been i have had a SwampG8r Jan 2012 #14
that's a great story. barbtries Jan 2012 #65
I also grew up there... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2012 #72
Always easy to find on an alphabetic list jberryhill Jan 2012 #13
Is the Gulf Shores Zoo still going? Mopar151 Jan 2012 #17
yup SwampG8r Jan 2012 #24
Alabama hootinholler Jan 2012 #18
does I10 SwampG8r Jan 2012 #21
Under the channel in the bay IIRC. n/t hootinholler Jan 2012 #25
scared me i dont like tunnels SwampG8r Jan 2012 #26
I'm from SW Pa hootinholler Jan 2012 #27
The Bankhead Tunnel..as in..Tallulah Bankhead's family... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #35
I have not been there for forty years. murielm99 Jan 2012 #22
the "spite house" of huntsville SwampG8r Jan 2012 #23
Obama got upwards of 70% of the vote XemaSab Jan 2012 #28
I've never been there. Lugnut Jan 2012 #29
Alabama: is one of three U.S. states that start w/ the letter 'a' and end with an 'a'. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #30
Would that be in the form of a question? countryjake Jan 2012 #56
Alabama: if you meet a man with a banjo on his knee, he probably came from there petronius Jan 2012 #31
What a great idea! I will check back tomorrow when OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2012 #32
Gulf Shores, Alabama is beautiful. I loved my vacation there. nt Liquorice Jan 2012 #33
Terrific state parks and national forests. More miles of navigable river than any other state piedmont Jan 2012 #34
80% of the land here is privately owned, not Federal owned. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #36
Home of the Civil Rights Memorial and SPLC pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #37
I was born here in 1941, and raised here. trof Jan 2012 #38
Alabama. My grandparents were born there MrScorpio Jan 2012 #39
Here's a blast from the past . . Sweet Home Alabama FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #41
Here's another musical reference from an Alabama native! FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #42
I love that song. Picture this: trof Jan 2012 #46
Nice - what an excellent description of a life moment and so vivid FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #48
Good version. I was at my fraternity's spring formal at The Grand Hotel. trof Jan 2012 #58
I simply ADORE "Stars Fell on Alabama" The Genealogist Jan 2012 #74
I would say this is a splendid version of the song FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #81
Yes, that is the version of the song that I was referring to! n/t The Genealogist Jan 2012 #85
I've been to Alabama one time. MineralMan Jan 2012 #43
I got a death threat mailed to me from Birmingham Generic Other Jan 2012 #44
Did you write back and tell that jerk to pull his head out of his ass? nt bluestate10 Jan 2012 #63
I've spent one night in Birmingham, in the sleaziest hotel I've ever been in. slackmaster Jan 2012 #45
Alabama, probably the last state anybody would want to move to... snooper2 Jan 2012 #47
The Huntsville area of Alabama has the nation's top schools. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #61
Thats odd. bvar22 Jan 2012 #70
Alabama Tsiyu Jan 2012 #49
"Saw a band named "Electric Codpiece" whose male members" csziggy Jan 2012 #83
Ha ha...:) Tsiyu Jan 2012 #86
My husband's been stationed there for training several times. I spent a night in Montgomery once. TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #50
Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers ... 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #51
Spent a summer there working COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #52
It wouldn't be fair to judge all of Alabama on Fort Rucker, would it? arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #53
I've driven through the state a few times. Once I worked in 5 AL cities over the course of a week DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #54
My home liberaltrucker Jan 2012 #55
One of the biggest damn... countryjake Jan 2012 #57
Northern Alabama had a lot of Union sympathy in it's population. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #59
I lived in Birmingham for about a year a while back. former9thward Jan 2012 #60
My favorite cousin lives in Huntsville proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #62
There's a great song about that state. Bucky Jan 2012 #64
let me try Syrinx Feb 2012 #87
It's the home of Jacksonville State University NoGOPZone Jan 2012 #66
great thread barbtries Jan 2012 #67
Never been and no interest, its fly over country quinnox Jan 2012 #68
There is a great little Jesuit College in Mobile. bvar22 Jan 2012 #69
I've been down there a number of times for just a few days at a time, hughee99 Jan 2012 #71
Heart of Dixie Vanje Jan 2012 #73
My experiences in Alabama The Genealogist Jan 2012 #75
Been in the north - been in the south liberal N proud Jan 2012 #76
IMO Mr Dixon Jan 2012 #77
Things to do, places to see in Alabama.. Little Star Jan 2012 #78
check out cathedral caverns SwampG8r Jan 2012 #80
I have only made a brief visit to the Mobile area. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #79
My Mom's family were all from Alabama. I have good and bad memories csziggy Jan 2012 #82
The politics suck hard, but consider this KamaAina Jan 2012 #84

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
1. Alabama.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jan 2012

I was only there once as a 12 year old child, visited relatives who lived there. We had a great time.

I don't know enough about the state to comment further, however I really like your idea behind starting this thread.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
3. i stole it from another thread
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jan 2012

someone said someone should do a state by state post series and let everyone say whatever they wanted to make themselves feel better
so i did
thanks for taking part

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
11. It's hard to steal what is freely given
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:32 AM
Jan 2012

I think this will be very interesting. Maybe one a day instead of one a week?

Thanks for stepping up.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
19. The original idea was one a week...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:54 AM
Jan 2012

But thinking about it, it would move better a little quicker

I don't know, I wonder what people think about the rate? It's not like it's my decision or anything like that

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
20. too late i changed it
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:56 AM
Jan 2012

feel free if you see me dropping the ball to jump in or pm me so i dont forget
i wanna see where this goes

FlaGatorJD

(364 posts)
2. I have only really driven through Alabama on my way toward Denver
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:55 AM
Jan 2012

I would have to say it was prettier than I expected in the country.

. . . and I would be remiss as a fellow SEC fan not to congratulate them on their NCAA football national championship.

I don't see any reason to rehash all the terrible civil rights history, as we seem to get a pretty good regular dose of that here by others, and I'll let them own that negativity.

oh yeah . . and Go Gators

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
4. best bbq in the south
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jan 2012

by far
i found a famous place that was pretty good and a dump that made me wanna kick my daddy guys ribs were like music
honey bbq sauce oh my lord i wanna go to huntsville right now!
edited to ad go you gator
my wife was class of 96 graduated with danny wuerrfel

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,517 posts)
5. I have never been to Alabama, my dear SwampG8r...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jan 2012

I'm glad you have!

And that the people were kind and the food good...That means a lot when you're far from home.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
7. a place called little pauls
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:17 AM
Jan 2012

across from the courthouse in huntsville
its in a converted gas station so there are few seats
they had sweet cornbread though
my only complaint

i just keep seeing south bashes and figured we would just go through every state and whoever wanted to sat wahatever could
let everyone get it out of their system
i may edit the title to draw more comments

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
8. oh alabama seafood
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:18 AM
Jan 2012

yumm
gulfcoast shrimps
bbq shrimp fried shrimp cocnut shrimp sauted shrimp shrimp scampi boiled shrimp shrimp gumbo.......

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
10. Neil Young wrote a song about it
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:29 AM
Jan 2012


This and 'Southern Man' were the reasons why Lynyrd Skynyrd dissed him.

Never been there myself, though I plan on doing so as soon as I can.
 

lacrew

(283 posts)
12. I Grew Up There
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:33 AM
Jan 2012

I resent how some people, who have never even visited, portray it in movies. I also resent that some of my friends who have moved away feel 'too enlightened' to even call it home. It is called 'Alabama the Beautiful'...and it lives up to the slogan.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
14. every time i have been i have had a
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jan 2012

wonderful visit
i got a police escort to wonderland ribs in huntsville
i got a rental at the airpost the lady said it has no tag but tell them susan at the airport told you it was ok
so i told him what she said
he looked at the rental papers and said ok
where you going he said
wonderland for ribs we said
follow me and off we went sirens and lights

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
72. I also grew up there...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jan 2012

...I left it as soon as I could, and there are still plenty of things about it that I hate. That said, it is a beautiful place and the people really are wonderful for the most part.

One thing I notice that's different between the deep south like Alabama and the midwest where I live now...the racism here is much more overt. In Alabama it survives mostly in the privileged class and in "big talk" from little rednecks. But when it comes down to it, poor white people and poor black people in Alabama seem to get along just fine. It's just kind of understood--unspoken--that the real struggles are based on class, not race.

I would never deny to anyone that I was born there. It made me who I am.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Always easy to find on an alphabetic list
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:35 AM
Jan 2012

So you never have to scroll pull-down menus like those poor bastards in Wyoming.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
17. Is the Gulf Shores Zoo still going?
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:49 AM
Jan 2012

"The Little Zoo That Could" on Animal Planet. Those folks had heart, and the amimals were family. But, at least once a show, someone would exclaim "Ah tell yew whut..."

And I'm a big fan of racing's Alabama Gang - Bobby Allison is a great storyteller, and with those guys, you did'nt have to embellish a thing!

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
18. Alabama
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:50 AM
Jan 2012

Where old families still hold real power over the local landscape.

The whole Don Seigleman travesty.

Foothills of the smokies in the north.

Mobile "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" Bay. The I10 bridges through the bayous that feed the bay.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
27. I'm from SW Pa
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:12 AM
Jan 2012

I grew up riding through tunnels yelling for the driver to toot the horn. I haven't been in Alabama in 20 or so years.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
35. The Bankhead Tunnel..as in..Tallulah Bankhead's family...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:47 AM
Jan 2012

Her male relatives were big men in politics back in the 30's..one of got the tunnel named after him at some point.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
23. the "spite house" of huntsville
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:02 AM
Jan 2012

as i recall
a very rich man had built a palatial home with a front that was viewable from the main road nearby
he had built the home so each passerby could see his splendid home
a business rival bought all the land fronting the main road and built another mansion designed in a way as to hide the other mans home from view
love the south

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
28. Obama got upwards of 70% of the vote
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:13 AM
Jan 2012

in 7 counties there, including an astonishing 86.9% in Macon County--home of the Tuskegee Institute.

By way of comparison, Obama got 84% in San Francisco and 85% in Manhattan.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
29. I've never been there.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:19 AM
Jan 2012

I have a few online friends who live there. I think I would like the food. I love BBQ - ribs, brisket, etc. - and my favorite fish is catfish.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
30. Alabama: is one of three U.S. states that start w/ the letter 'a' and end with an 'a'.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:32 AM
Jan 2012

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona

If Arkansas didn't have that silent 's' added to the end there would have been four

petronius

(26,595 posts)
31. Alabama: if you meet a man with a banjo on his knee, he probably came from there
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:39 AM
Jan 2012

Especially if he makes any mention about going to Louisiana...

<-- pretend that's a banjo

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
32. What a great idea! I will check back tomorrow when
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 02:46 AM
Jan 2012

the Martini's wear off. I think this is a fabulous area for us to discuss!

piedmont

(3,462 posts)
34. Terrific state parks and national forests. More miles of navigable river than any other state
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:52 AM
Jan 2012

Excellent fishing-- freshwater and saltwater
Road rage is almost non-existent (except for Birmingham).
Home of The University of Alabama, a good public university with the best football team in the nation.
Dismals Canyon-- a speck (85 acres) of virgin forest in a privately owned park.
Generally friendly people (if you don't rile them up about politics or their favorite football team).

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. 80% of the land here is privately owned, not Federal owned.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jan 2012

Why is that important?
Because private forestry is a BIG deal here. Every 2nd person I run into is a forester at one stage of their lives, or part time.
(Alabama's land consists of 22 million acres of forest, which is 67% of total land area.)
People LOVE the land here, and take care of it, value it.
Alabama is amazingly green year round.
Gardening here is more a matter of keeping the greenery at bay then of "trying" to grow something.
I love feeling like I am living in the woods even when I am living in a small town.

Alabama is mostly rural, actually, huge swaths of land with only 4 "big cities"
( plus that Gadsden/Anniston area over there on the Georgia line).

You can drive around for days and not hit any serious traffic, once you are out of the major city areas.
Miles and miles and miles of 2 lane roads with breath taking scenery.

Alabama ranks second in the area of its inland waterways.
and rates 2nd in the number of F-5 tornadoes in the country!

Pop. is only 4,800,000 thereabouts.

And people really are friendly and helpful.

I CHOSE to live here, had to move away for a few years, and chose to move back when I could retire.
Half of my life I lived on the West Coast, but this place is deeply home to me.
First thing my next door neighbor said when she welcomed me to our current neighborhood was
" Oh I DO hope you are a Democrat!"


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
37. Home of the Civil Rights Memorial and SPLC
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:29 AM
Jan 2012

A beautiful and powerful memorial designed by Maya Lin, the same artist who designed the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Info and photos:

http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial

trof

(54,256 posts)
38. I was born here in 1941, and raised here.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:07 AM
Jan 2012

Grew up in Birmingham and was there for the 60s civil rights movement.
I remember Bull Connor and the dogs and fire hoses.

Fortunately we've made a lot of progress since then, but we still have a way to go.
Racial prejudice is still deeply rooted, ingrained in some, especially among rural and poor/undereducated whites.
But I think it gets better with each subsequent generation.
I'm proud to serve as campaign treasurer for the first black woman to be elected to our city council.

Physically, Alabama is a beautiful state. Foothills of the Appalachians in the north down to the snow white beaches on the Gulf of Mexico.
I live on a lovely, almost pristine, bay just north of the Intracoastal Waterway.
Every day I see Great Blue Herons, cattle egrets, ospreys, pelicans, all manner of gulls, porpoises, deer, foxes, and yesterday a bald eagle roosted for a few minutes in a tree in my back yard.

People are generally friendly and helpful.
The day we moved in a couple showed up at our front door with a bouquet of fresh picked flowers and a bottle of wine to welcome us to the neighborhood. Never had that happen while living near Chicago or Boston.
I thought "Yep, I'm HOME again."


I left the state in my 20s to pursue my career.
I returned in my 50s.
We've made progress on many fronts, but there's still a lot of room for improvement.
Y'all come see us!



MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
39. Alabama. My grandparents were born there
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jan 2012

The food comes in three basic flavors; sweet, salty and greasy.

They fly the Stars and Bars proudly… Sometimes from the back of pickup trucks, driving around parking lots.

Birmingham's not too bad, but Montgomery is a dud.

The people are generally friendly… They do know Southern Hospitality in that state.

In 2003, I went down there for military training for six weeks. I left Alabama with the following observations:

1. I was fortunate to be stationed in Virginia.

2. I liked Atlanta when I crossed over to Georgia a few times.

and 3. Now I know why Great-grandparents fled Alabama 70 years ago.

FlaGatorJD

(364 posts)
41. Here's a blast from the past . . Sweet Home Alabama
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jan 2012

Any old hippies out there?



This is one of the those old Southern rock songs that stirs up the Southerners . . .
and probably helped to keep the civil war lovers on both sides going too.

FlaGatorJD

(364 posts)
42. Here's another musical reference from an Alabama native!
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jan 2012


The songs lyrics also give you a little tour of Alabama.

trof

(54,256 posts)
46. I love that song. Picture this:
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jan 2012

A warm spring evening with a fragrant and salty breeze coming off of Mobile Bay.
A huge marble floored, colonnaded, dance floor.
Young men in tuxes and pretty young women in ball gowns.
And the orchestra playing "Stars Fell on Alabama".

I'll never forget that night back in 1960.

FlaGatorJD

(364 posts)
48. Nice - what an excellent description of a life moment and so vivid
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jan 2012

I think I can smell the salty air . .

That was a few years before JB covered it.

Maybe it was a little more like this Billie Holiday version:



Thanks for sharing

trof

(54,256 posts)
58. Good version. I was at my fraternity's spring formal at The Grand Hotel.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jan 2012

Point Clear, Alabama.
Google it.
Yeah, yeah...I was a 'frat boy'.
Some of us moved beyond that.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
74. I simply ADORE "Stars Fell on Alabama"
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:20 AM
Jan 2012

I may be awful for saying it, but I like Ricky Nelson's version of it.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
43. I've been to Alabama one time.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jan 2012

It was in 1965. I was in Birmingham, where I listed to Dr. King speak after walking across the Edmund Pettus Bridge. As a 19 year old young man from California, I was made to feel very welcome by the people who were also there to hear Dr. King. I was made to feel extremely unwelcome by everyone else I encountered there.

I have never returned to that state.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
44. I got a death threat mailed to me from Birmingham
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jan 2012

From someone who signed himself a real racist. It was graphic and disgusting. This was in response to an article I wrote for my school paper celebrating MLK Day.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
45. I've spent one night in Birmingham, in the sleaziest hotel I've ever been in.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jan 2012

The heat was off, there was a huge gap under the door, everything was filthy, and the only channels on the TV that worked were piping in amateur porn.

I'm sure there are much nicer things to do in Alabama.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
47. Alabama, probably the last state anybody would want to move to...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jan 2012

It's a real close tie with Arkansas but still dead last...


bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
61. The Huntsville area of Alabama has the nation's top schools.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jan 2012

The gulf coast of the state is vastly different from the interior. The governors in the state had been becoming progressively more moderate until the current one.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
70. Thats odd.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:43 PM
Jan 2012

My wife and I spent a year researching the best places in America to buy land for the purpose of Living as Sustainably as Possible.


Our search included a number of parameters such as:
*Bubble-Proof investment
*Available clean water,
*Fertile Land
*Inexpensive unspoiled property
*Low property taxes
*Long growing season
*Low Winter heating costs
*Adjacent National Forest and protected Wilderness
*Wild Game
*Low Cost of Living
*No close Urban Areas or Factory Farms


Alabama & Arkansas were two of the locations that came up frequently.

We eventually chose Arkansas because the property included a natural spring.
We moved here (Ouachita Mountains) from Minneapolis in 2006, love it,
and recommend it to those who wish to live as sustainably as possible.



Different strokes, I guess.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
49. Alabama
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jan 2012


A couple of years ago, went to a great big hippie party there on a couple hundred acres in the woods. Saw a band named "Electric Codpiece" whose male members jammed on stage all wearing women's lingerie.

Almost got drowned in a cave during a torrential rainstorm in Little River Canyon many years ago.
Made it out.

A few years after that, got stuck in an icestorm accompanying a friend to his U of SA Medical school interview in Mobile. Made it home.

Alabama has some beautiful country. And as Clark Howard will tell you - cheap airfare out of Birmingham





TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
50. My husband's been stationed there for training several times. I spent a night in Montgomery once.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jan 2012

Also drove around Mobile in the rain, once. I liked it better than Mississippi, so that's something.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
52. Spent a summer there working
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:29 PM
Jan 2012

on a M.A. at U of Alabama. My memories:

1- Hot as hell (no A/C in the dorms)
2- Stink from paper processing plant next to U of A/ Tuscaloosa
3- Some of the nicest, kindest people I've ever met
4- Evangelical University professors hosting a born-again "Come to Jesus", complete with hymns at faculty cocktail
5- Lots of pick up trucks with lots of gun racks and lots of Confederate flags
6- Great down-home cooking

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
53. It wouldn't be fair to judge all of Alabama on Fort Rucker, would it?
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jan 2012

That's the only part of that state I ever saw.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
54. I've driven through the state a few times. Once I worked in 5 AL cities over the course of a week
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jan 2012

It wasn't my favorite state.
I was impressed with the inexpensive lodging prices.
I think the geography of the place is interesting, from the red hills in the north to the flat gulf shore in the south.
College football seems to be considered with dead seriousness in the state.
I have a tendency to lump AL, MS, northern FL, and other surrounding places into one. This isn't fair on my part, but it is how my brain organizes things.
I would like to know more about the history of the state, and some of the notable people from Alabama.

I won't use this space to slam the state. I think you have an interesting concept for a series of threads, one per state, and although it's clear that Alabama isn't my favorite place, I'm not attempting to be cruel or regionally-bigoted or anything like that with my post.

thank you.

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
55. My home
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jan 2012

I lay my head in Pennsylvania at the moment, but Alabama will always be home.
My family lives there (Carbon Hill, Walker County to be precise) and my ancestors
are buried there. As will I some day.

It has it's political problems, of course, and I don't expect that to change in my
lifetime. Still, it was a great place to grow up in the 60's and 70's.

I'll be visiting my family for a week in March. I can't wait.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
57. One of the biggest damn...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:54 PM
Jan 2012

smallmouth bass I've ever seen probably still swims in the Tennessee River there.

A truly wily creature, gives ya the hairy eyeball whilst spitting out whatever bait you try on the hook.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
59. Northern Alabama had a lot of Union sympathy in it's population.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:12 PM
Jan 2012

Alabama is a complex state. Surprisingly, it is one of the southern states that I see ultimately going blue, although that seem impossible now.

I have no love for southerners that hoist the confederacy on a pedestal. Nor do I respect southerners that fly the confederate flag, or even respect it.

Even during the most horrible depths of segregation, there were people in Alabama that stood against dehumanizing african americans. Even though I would hang southern traitors, I acknowledge that the south has far, far more people that respect and love their country.

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
60. I lived in Birmingham for about a year a while back.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jan 2012

I had a job working for the U of Alabama (Roll Tide!) which took me to every part of the state. The people were the friendliest of any state I have lived in (and I have lived in quite a few!)

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
64. There's a great song about that state.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jan 2012

Otherwise I can't tell it from Mississippi (except that Alabama isn't as fun to spell)

 

Syrinx

(14,804 posts)
87. let me try
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:06 AM
Feb 2012

AlAbAmA

A capital "A" looks a little like a ladder, I think.

Ladder-letter, skinny letter, ladder letter, fat-letter, ladder letter, crawling letter, ladder letter.

Well that's the best I can do on short notice.



 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
68. Never been and no interest, its fly over country
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jan 2012

Just the fact its part of the South is bad enough.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
69. There is a great little Jesuit College in Mobile.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:22 PM
Jan 2012

Springhill College.
Small college,
great teachers,
beautiful campus.
The Jesuits are hard to beat for an education.


The state itself is beautiful and sparsely populated.
A good place to consider for anyone wanting to move back to The Land and live sustainably.
Inexpensive, pristine property
Low property taxes
Fertile land
Plenty of clean water
Long growing season
Low Winter heating costs
Excellent Hunting & Fishing


South Alabama is a short drive to some of the most beautiful beaches in the World (Pre-BP).
North Alabama a short day trip to the Smokey Mountains.



hughee99

(16,113 posts)
71. I've been down there a number of times for just a few days at a time,
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jan 2012

Usually in the summer, so it is quite humid and the kind of thunderstorms you don't see in Massachusetts, but the people have been very nice and the food has been very good.

I went into a store where one side was all Auburn stuff and the other side was all Bama, and the guy seemed surprised that I got my nephew a shirt from both. I guess it's usually one or the other, but hell, we're from Massacusetts, probably 700 miles from a legit college football program, so people around here don't know the difference.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
75. My experiences in Alabama
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jan 2012

Between 2000-2009, as I was exploring, then attending, Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida, I drove across Alabama, I would guess a total of probably two dozen times, from Houston County in the very SE corner of the state, to Marion County in the NW part, on US 231 to I-65 to US 78 (now I 22). I've been on 1-10 for its entire length through Alabama, and I-20 between Birmingham & the Georgia state line. In short, I have seen quite a bit of Alabama. I found some things appealing. For the most part, I would say life moves slower (well between Montgomery and Birmingham, people drive like bats out of Hades!). There is some beautiful scenery: pine forests and quaint towns.

Too many years of stereotypes, movies, tv and horror stories led me to believe, as I drove across the state the first few times, that any time a corrupt law enforcement officer was going to pull me over and a corrupt judge was going to sentence me to 10 years in a work camp for speeding or jaywalking. Reality: I never had a single bad experience with a person in Alabama. The people are generally courteous, they go about their business like anyplace else. The roadside rest areas were cleaner and more attractive than they are in most other states, in my experience and have pleasant buildings for the restroom/tourist pamphlet/snack machine buildings. Further, most larger towns are really not all that different from other parts of the country in terms of what they look like or seem like; there are Wal-Marts, and Shoney's, McDonalds and Days Inn. The greatest oddity I found in Alabama, really, was the traffic lights. At some intersections, there are these single red lights along with the rest, that have a white strobing light surrounding them, that blink as the light is getting ready to change. You can easily see from a distance what is going on at the intersection before you ever get to it; if anything these were more helpful.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
76. Been in the north - been in the south
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jan 2012

Took donughts from a cop in Florence Alabama when she woke me up. I was sleeping in my car a parking lot.

My experinces with people in Florence was mixed, some were accomodating others were less so. The cop with the donughts was very friendly and later that day when I needed to get out of the parking lot, she stopped all traffic to let me out.

Drove along the coast through all the beach towns, before Katrina.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
77. IMO
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jan 2012
Been there in 1993
It was okay around post
The women were very nice which was good
Food was good
Cops were okay didn’t mess with me
Almost got jumped by some crips outside the waffle house
Clubs were good
Cab fare okay
Would not want to live there it seemed to be regressing

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
78. Things to do, places to see in Alabama..
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jan 2012

I often day dream about visiting every state the US. I look up the tourism sights and Alabama State has a nice one.
Take a look:
http://www.alabama.travel/

Being a senior I'm always looking for scenic drives and Alabama seems to have a wealth of them:

A Circle of Colors
Covered Bridge Trail
Food & Wine Trail
Alabama Birding Trail
Alabama Black Belt Nature and Heritage Trail
Alabama Civil Rights Museum Trail
Alabama Scenic River Trail
Civil War Trail
Fall Color Trail
Hank Williams Trail
Native American Trail
West Alabama Hunting and Fishing Trail
Alabama's Hunting & Fishing Trail for People with Physical Disabilities
Saturday Walking Tours
Alabama Antique Trail

I also like how they layout their regions:
http://www.alabama.travel/cities-towns/?path=cities-towns

Alabama sounds lovely. Maybe someday I will be lucky enough to see it with my own eyes!

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
79. I have only made a brief visit to the Mobile area.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:50 AM
Jan 2012

I don't remember much about it. From everything I hear about Alabama, it sounds a lot like the state where I live, South Carolina. And, like every other state, it has its good aspects and it's bad aspects.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
82. My Mom's family were all from Alabama. I have good and bad memories
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jan 2012

Mom's ancestors arrived in Alabama between 1817 and 1834 and were among some of the earlier settlers. Many of them were Baptists and helped establish the Baptist church in Alabama. One was famous for being instrumental in starting the Alabama Baptist Convention and encouraged the formation of the Southern Baptist Convention. He was also an intolerant man and objected to slaves teaching each other the Bible. And he owned a lot of slaves.

A lot of my ancestors and their relatives fought and died in the Civil War. Because many of them were slave owners who needed slaves to run their farms, they lost a lot of wealth after the war. By the time Mom remembers, most were poor dirt farmers or had lost their land completely and worked other jobs.

The good memories I have are from visiting my relatives. They were nice to a little girl and her sisters. The bad memories I have are from the racist comments they'd make, not realizing those little girls understood what they were talking about and what they meant.

Mom's grandfather had owned a large house in Selma - by the time I saw the house many of Mom's aunts and uncles lived there in their retirement years. The house was on the river about five blocks from the bridge in Selma where the horrendous Civil Rights movement confrontation with the Selma police took place. After that incident, visiting my elderly relatives had a bitter edge because we had to drive over that infamous bridge every time.

While the incident did not happen in Alabama, it was my mother's eldest brother from Alabama who made me face the stark racism of many of my relatives and also made me question the value of Christianity and religion. Even though he was a minister, he told one of the most horribly vicious racist jokes I have ever heard. Even after fifty years, that memory makes me cringe. He told it to a group that included children younger than I was at the time. And nearly every one in the group laughed. I wanted to throw up.

I could not believe that a man who claimed to be a Christian would tell a joke like that and laugh. Ever since I have not been able to believe that religion is a good thing. That man, that minister, my uncle, the product of generations of ministers, is the main influence in me becoming an agnostic/atheist.

Now that I have studied the history and the genealogy of the family more, I understand that my uncle was the product of his environment but I also know that my mother, who was raised by the same parents, with the same relatives, in the same state, turned away from the Baptist Church and is a much more tolerant and compassionate human being than that "man of Gawd" ever was. Maybe it helped that she got out of Alabama as soon as she could.

As an adult I pretty much stopped visiting Alabama. I regret that I didn't visit my great aunts and uncles in their final years, but I don't regret being exposed to the archaic attitudes they had about people not like themselves. If I ever visit Alabama again, it will be solely to do genealogical research and nothing more.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
84. The politics suck hard, but consider this
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:26 PM
Jan 2012

the esteemed Will Pitt grew up there.

It's also where the civil rights movement got its start, with Selma, Rosa Parks, etc.

And Mobile had Mardi Gras several years before New Orleans did. Plus, they throw Moon Pies at you along with the trinkets. Really.

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