Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:07 PM Jan 2012

How do you define a "Conservative"?

We know how they define a "Liberal". They have been very successful at corrupting the word and giving it new meaning.

After what this country has experienced with conservatism and "compassionate conservatism" for the last 30 years, how do they still speak with any credibility?

Why do some folks still buy the crap that this is a "conservative" or a "center-right" country after the fornication they have laid upon the American people?

Is that the best we can do?

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How do you define a "Conservative"? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2012 OP
John Kenneth Galbraith said cyberswede Jan 2012 #1
Anybody, Republican or Democrat, who stands in the way of progressive Democrats. (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #2
Insane Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #3
Intellectually constipated izquierdista Jan 2012 #4
This question is exactly the reason the pubes are in disarray. Happyhippychick Jan 2012 #5
Modern Republicans aren't conservative they are Radical, Regressives devoted to setting the TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #16
What you said. DCKit Jan 2012 #19
Entrenched in beliefs loyalsister Jan 2012 #6
How about gopiscrap Jan 2012 #7
This is how I define it. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #8
I hope plenty of lube was used. Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #17
To paraphrase ST. Frank of Zappa... MedicalAdmin Feb 2012 #21
Tough call. I'm socially and politically liberal but in many ways very conservative. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #9
I'm encouraging people not to use the "c" word in any favorable context. dawg Jan 2012 #14
Delusional Raine Jan 2012 #10
Someone who supports policies that favor the wealthy and powerful. dawg Jan 2012 #11
One who wants to bet with other people's money, keeps the winnings, but then ... 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #12
Someone who cuts off a tree branch while he's using it for support. nt MrScorpio Jan 2012 #13
Politically? In economics they are for increased deregulation, more free market. morningfog Jan 2012 #15
So simple: Special Prosciuto Jan 2012 #18
Extremist. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #20

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
1. John Kenneth Galbraith said
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jan 2012

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

That works for my definition.

I don't know how the right were so successful at vilifying the word "liberal." It seems like they've been defining the debate for some time. And I also disagree that we're a center-right country. People favor liberal policies when they're not identified as "liberal" (for instance, people support the idea of being able to bargain for better working conditions, as long as you don't mention the word "union.&quot

Ohio Joe

(21,752 posts)
3. Insane
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jan 2012

Bat shit crazy
Demented
Fucked up
Anti-American
Nazi

I could think of some more but you get the idea.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
4. Intellectually constipated
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jan 2012

Can't get the fecal material out of their craniums and replace it with fresh ideas.

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
5. This question is exactly the reason the pubes are in disarray.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jan 2012

They can't come to a consensus on what it means, therefore they are in constant bicker mode.

Delicious, isn't it?

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
16. Modern Republicans aren't conservative they are Radical, Regressives devoted to setting the
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:12 PM
Jan 2012

old Wayback Machine to fuedalism.

Conservatives want to maintain the status quo and the existing order.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
6. Entrenched in beliefs
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 07:02 PM
Jan 2012

Unwilling to consider possibilities outside of their past experience. Unwilling to explore different ideas and solutions. Rigid.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
9. Tough call. I'm socially and politically liberal but in many ways very conservative.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jan 2012

I don't think there's a catch-all definition for liberal or conservative, or independent for that matter. The general definition is one who adheres to tradition and resists change. That sure as shit didn't cover the shrub - the Bill of Rights was his real enemy, not "terrists".



dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. I'm encouraging people not to use the "c" word in any favorable context.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jan 2012

It doesn't mean adhering to tradition and resisting change anymore. They are the ones who want to dramatically change our society.

It certainly doesn't mean fiscally responsible. To them, tax cuts are sarcocanct - to hell with the deficit it it means rich people might have to pay more.

Today, "conservative" has come to mean economic royalist in the U.S. The only constant among those who call themselves conservative is the desire to promote policies that favor the rich and powerful, often, but not always, at the expense of everyone else.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
11. Someone who supports policies that favor the wealthy and powerful.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jan 2012

They only want government to be small when it is regulating big business or providing benefits and protections to the poor and middle-class. When it's projecting military power across the globe, performing illegal surveillance of citizens, or interfering with a woman's reproductive choices, they are fine with big government.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
12. One who wants to bet with other people's money, keeps the winnings, but then ...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jan 2012

refuses to pay off when they lose.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. Politically? In economics they are for increased deregulation, more free market.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jan 2012

Socially, they are for government involvement to protect what they see as morals and values based on antiquated religious views.

But, some people who are very liberal politically may still be conservative in their approach. These folks might be cautious in every aspect of their life, not comfortable with rocking the boat, so to speak.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How do you define a "...