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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:49 AM Feb 2013

Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

We have obtained, exclusively, the exchange. Here it is:


From Gene Sperling to Bob Woodward on Feb. 22, 2013

Bob:

I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. My bad. I do understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall — but feel on the other hand that you focus on a few specific trees that gives a very wrong perception of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here.

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim. The idea that the sequester was to force both sides to go back to try at a big or grand barain with a mix of entitlements and revenues (even if there were serious disagreements on composition) was part of the DNA of the thing from the start. It was an accepted part of the understanding — from the start. Really. It was assumed by the Rs on the Supercommittee that came right after: it was assumed in the November-December 2012 negotiations. There may have been big disagreements over rates and ratios — but that it was supposed to be replaced by entitlements and revenues of some form is not controversial.

(Indeed, the discretionary savings amount from the Boehner-Obama negotiations were locked in in BCA: the sequester was just designed to force all back to table on entitlements and revenues.)

I agree there are more than one side to our first disagreement, but again think this latter issue is diffferent. Not out to argue and argue on this latter point. Just my sincere advice. Your call obviously.

My apologies again for raising my voice on the call with you. Feel bad about that and truly apologize.

Gene




From Woodward to Sperling on Feb. 23, 2013

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this. My partial advantage is that I talked extensively with all involved. I am traveling and will try to reach you after 3 pm today. Best, Bob



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Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed (Original Post) kpete Feb 2013 OP
Yep, crystal clear he was threatened! Uben Feb 2013 #1
Sounds to me like Sperling was more concerned about Woodward not making an ass out of himself Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #2
Zactly, Carcetti. Cha Feb 2013 #17
YES. As in - be careful what you stand on. It could turn out to be a pile of dogshit. calimary Mar 2013 #24
Woodward knows he's wrong Enrique Feb 2013 #3
Woodward exposed himself for the liar that he is. What else has he told us in the past.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #4
Based on Woodward's response... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #5
It sells books. That is all. russspeakeasy Feb 2013 #6
Publicity gimmick ... eom Kolesar Feb 2013 #15
Give Bob a break: He's used to interviewing dudes who are in comas. n/t UTUSN Feb 2013 #7
I stopped taking Woodward seriously after he betrayed Belushi's widow deutsey Feb 2013 #8
The menace from Sperling's email left me shivering! Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #9
I can see Hannity now..."Obama got to him, they "fixed" the emails!" rustydog Feb 2013 #10
I tuned in on the conservanazi nut jobs on AM radio this morning in Houston. TxVietVet Feb 2013 #11
I'm sure MJ and Mica have seen this but it still shd be sent to them...n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #12
Such a threat! So scary. Gene Sperling is enough to give anyone nightmares. Jennicut Feb 2013 #13
"Bob Woodward is moving the goalposts on what constitutes a threat." onestepforward Feb 2013 #14
Right..thanks for the Ari Melber Tweet, onestepforward Cha Feb 2013 #18
Woodward's Problem Is Revealed By Woodward DallasNE Feb 2013 #16
What a wimp Wooward has turned into, he's a joke! Wonder what Bernstein thinks.... mountain grammy Feb 2013 #19
A threat? My left toe! MrModerate Feb 2013 #20
I caught on to Woodward, John2 Feb 2013 #21
Shite! Woodward's as good as droned. MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #22
Pat Robertson may be right. timdog44 Mar 2013 #23
Can we all agree... ReRe Mar 2013 #25
The first signs of dementia; greiner3 Mar 2013 #26

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
2. Sounds to me like Sperling was more concerned about Woodward not making an ass out of himself
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:59 AM
Feb 2013

than any actual "threat."

Nothing to see here.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
24. YES. As in - be careful what you stand on. It could turn out to be a pile of dogshit.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:21 PM
Mar 2013

Because if you insist on taking stands like that, you risk making yourself look like an idiot.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. Woodward knows he's wrong
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:00 PM
Feb 2013

about his interpretation about moving the goalposts. There is all kinds of evidence supporting Sperling. If he wants to stand his ground, all the Obama haters will back him up, just because he's criticizing Obama, but is that what he wants?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
4. Woodward exposed himself for the liar that he is. What else has he told us in the past....
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:02 PM
Feb 2013

....that we should begin to examine much more closely, and how far back should we go?


Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
5. Based on Woodward's response...
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:04 PM
Feb 2013

That is to say, going straight to Fox News and claiming "threats" from the White House, I think Sperling can safely assume that Woodward is no longer to be considered a friend.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
8. I stopped taking Woodward seriously after he betrayed Belushi's widow
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 PM
Feb 2013

After this, however, I think I will ignore him entirely from now on.

What an assclown.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
9. The menace from Sperling's email left me shivering!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:35 PM
Feb 2013

I urge that Mr Woodward go into hiding and remain there until it is safe and Obama is no longer in office.


TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
11. I tuned in on the conservanazi nut jobs on AM radio this morning in Houston.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

Of course, I never believe the conservanazi whiners until I investigate some of the background on the issue. The first conservanazi idiot was a clown named Edd Hendee. After that, it was Laura Ingram. The way they were portraying all of this was like a knock-down fight. Like Obama was running the country like the Chicago Mob. Lots of lies in between. They are trying to say it's all Obama's fault and that the White House is threatening Woodward.
First up, I would never let that guy back in the White House if he doesn't explain what he told the conservanazis and why.
The main problem right now that we have is that the MSM is giving face space and letting the conservanazis get on air and lie.

BTW, you can always tell when conservanazi repukes are lying.......... their lips move.

onestepforward

(3,691 posts)
14. "Bob Woodward is moving the goalposts on what constitutes a threat."
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Feb 2013

Tweeted:

Ari Melber ?@AriMelber
Possibly the best one so far. RT @ObsoleteDogma Bob Woodward is moving the goalposts on what constitutes a threat.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
16. Woodward's Problem Is Revealed By Woodward
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:42 PM
Feb 2013

Woodward admits that "I talked extensively with all involved" then took sides regarding who was telling the truth. There is only one truth and Sperling is just setting the record straight with Woodward. A good journalist would know that the way to verify a charge of "moving the goal posts" would be to review what was actually being said at the time versus what is being said today. Woodward failed Journalism 101 by accepting one side of the argument without benefit of doing the grunt work of verification of facts. This is in fact yellow journalism being practiced by Woodward in this exchange.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
20. A threat? My left toe!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:00 PM
Feb 2013

Sperling was clearly, clearly, clearly saying, "Bob, you're going to look like a fool if you go down this route, because what you're saying is flat wrong."

I suppose it's also a threat to tell someone if they hit their thumb with a hammer, it's going to leave a mark.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
21. I caught on to Woodward,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:45 PM
Feb 2013

when he interjected himself in the Election supporting the House Republicans and Romney\Ryan. It backfired on him but he just want give up. Remember he said Pelosi deliberately ignored the President and she disputed it. Why was he listening in on someone's private conversation anyway? He has an agenda period! He is just no good and a sleeze to me.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
23. Pat Robertson may be right.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 07:22 AM
Mar 2013

Woodward is probably wearing some second hand clothing or jewelry and is possessed bu demons.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
25. Can we all agree...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:06 PM
Mar 2013

...that Woodward has lost all credibility? He's now a legend in his own mind. He's reminding me more and more everyday of Bob Novak. I had absolutely NO respect for him long before this current flap he has stirred up making HIM the big story. Fuck Bob Woodward. The WH owes him nothing. Cut him loose. IMHO, respectfully of course...

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