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Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:11 PM

 

Please Take the Time to Make Comments When You're on a Jury

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Violet_Crumble (a host of the General Discussion forum).

This is a cross-post from Meta where it might have been more appropriate as commentary on DU and its processes. However, I don't feel it got the review of enough people there so I'm posting it here as a plea to DU members. As my plea to help us all make DU a great place. One of the great places I visit every day.

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I know it takes time to make comments when you volunteer to serve on a jury and you've already given of your time by participating on a jury. Thank you for your service.

What people may not realize is that taking time to comment on your thoughts for why you voted to Hide or Leave a post is very helpful to people upstream of that jury service. The admins and the MIRT team get sent alerts on hidden posts with the TOS violation box checked. They take your comments into account when evaluating whether or not to revoke posting privileges for a member.

Your comments could be important to cause the admins or MIRT to see things from a different angle than they might otherwise and, as a result, allow a member to continue to have posting privileges because that member may have simply inelegantly stated a post but is still a good DU member. Conversely, your comments might help confirm their suspicions that the member is a troll, racist, misogynist, bigot, spammer, or other type of member who should have their posting privileges revoked.

Finally, your comments serve to inform the alerter and the member whose post was alerted on about how other DU members perceive their alerts and posts. This is true for all posts including ones that don't have the TOS box checked. So it serves as a means to help educate other members and to guide newer members on what is considered appropriate at DU.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:15 PM

1. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! nt

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:33 PM

2. alerters need to grow a thick skin

trolls are here all the time - sometimes the alert is frivolous - it must be obviously offensive - it is like all the who-ha over Seth mcFarlene - so next time get a different host - I like the show this year - even the offensive parts (to others not me) - I find personally I just put people on ignore instead of alerting because they are showing their #$%%@#% - comments are not going to stop alerters - trolls go away eventually unless people keep feeding them

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Response to 2Design (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:42 PM

4. You are Off Topic and I hope others don't further you comment.

 

Try to confine yourself to the topic at hand and not go off topic into some other arguments.

If you feel alerters are alerting on posts when they should not then that's a great topic for your own thread. But not not for my thread here.

BTW, I've served on several juries where I had the thought "why the hell is this post being alerted on????" So I'd more than likely support your assertion that some alerters need to get a "thicker skin" or they need to have a better sense of humor or irony.

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Response to 2Design (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:19 AM

10. I agree

and I will "further your comment" to demonstrate that an original poster doesn't own the thread, and has no business telling others what posts are welcome or not welcome.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:42 PM

3. Comment field should be mandatory....not giving one is lazy at best , and unhelpful as you say. Nt

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:03 AM

5. Given the discussion in Meta over some jury comments, it is not surprising to see fewer comments

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:51 AM

8. That Excuse is Bunk. If One is Too Afraid to Have Their Honest Comments Associated W/ Them Don't...

 

serve on a jury. Click that button that says you don't want to serve on a jury. Otherwise, serve on the jury and be okay with having an opinion. Your opinion.

Serving on a jury is not mandatory. It's a choice. If you are not willing to be happy and proud of your choices then too bad. Don't choose to judge others' posts and hide behind the anonymity of jury service.

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Response to dballance (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:16 AM

9. Your title indicates that you think jurors should be publicly identified.

Is that indeed your position?

My point is that I can readily understand given the caterwauling, that some choose not to comment. Its not required and so they don't.

I comment as appropriate when I am on a jury, but I understand others who choose not to.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 04:21 AM

12. No. It Does Not. You Are a Terrible Charlatan.

 

Please don't put words in my mouth or intents in my posts. How the hell you could possibly take my post and twist it into the thought I think jurors should be publicly identified or ridiculed for their opinions is a joke. Like you - a joke.

Yes, I do think jurors should be comfortable enough with themselves and they should not be embarrassed with their comments on their jury service. If one cannot feel comfortable with one's position and comments and feels the need to hide behind anonymity of a system like our jury system then I think one is a pretty despicable. If one does not have the courage to stand up for their beliefs and endure the pains and agonies that might cause I have no respect for them at all.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:10 AM

6. No Comment

 

Sorry, your OP begged for it.

You have a valid point. However votes swing with the vagaries of peoples moods.

Sometimes an explanation is no more than an intuition, or would start another debate leading off topic.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:13 AM

7. Wouldn't the admins mainly base their decision to revoke on the offending member's posts?

 

Jury comments tend to be highly variable depending on the jurors that happen to be in any given jury.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:35 AM

11. I always read for context...

I think that is the most important thing. I usually leave a comment because that is usually important as well. But, some posts can be hidden or not without comment, because I have seen posts that are just that bad or conversely posts that shouldn't have been alerted on at all.

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Response to dballance (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 05:40 AM

13. Locked - This doesn't fit the GD SOP...

It falls into the bemoaning or discussing DU category, which is why it belongs in Meta.

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