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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTom Tomorrow's "This Modern World" Cartoon on the Pundits who were wrong about Iraq
Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Maybe they'll be interviewed in Tom's next strip.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)After all, they do tend to drone on, and on...
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Or the Secretary of State that said the war was wrong?
Unless you think nothing has happened since 2003?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)also the one that said it was right.
Until it turned out to be a wrong call, of course.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)That would be statements made by Clinton after 2009, and by Kerry after 2013. Which, of course, would be contrary to the position held by their boss.
Somehow I missed that headline.
Also remember: THEY WERE LIED TO by the previous regime in Washington. Are they now responsible for Bush's lies?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)they declare their crime to be a bad idea after they're caught?
Most elected Democrats voted against the war. What do you think was going on with that?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)With standards set for the little people to follow.
Just stop it before one of the job creators gets hurt.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)And you would imprison the 60% of Americans who supported the war at that time WHILE THEIR PRESIDENT WAS LYING TO THEM!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And you're putting words in my mouth.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Which one?
"The one that said it was right, and also the one that said it was right."
The fact is no Secretary of State under Obama has said that the Iraq War was right. SENATOR Clinton and SENATOR Kerry did support the war - along with 60% of the public - while the Bush Regime was lying to them and the world about the reasons for it. They both changed their position - along with the rest of the country - once the facts about those lies came to light. That's what has happened since 2003, which you oh-so-carefully ignore.
So let's not talk about tossing Sec. Clinton and Sec. Kerry in jail unless you're going to make room for 90 million other Americans.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Hagel, a Republican Yes voter, is going to set a record. 16 years of Republican rule at DOD. And he showed very poor judgement when it counted.
23 Senators voted NO, they were correct and they have been shunned for excellent discernment while the wrong, the mediocre and the self serving have been handed the keys to the next war.
Among other things, it is a crappy lesson to teach our young people. Irresponsible and reckless.
love_katz
(2,578 posts)Good reply.
cbrer
(1,831 posts)That Sen.s Clinton and Kerry were as well informed as the general population.
One would believe, at their level of clearance, that they would have access to much more relevant information at their disposal. Kinda' changes the decision making process, or at least the means of arriving at one.
Politics and popularity come into play. No one is innocent here.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Kerry and Clinton only came out against the war they both voted for during their respective runs at the presidency. Kind of like felons who find Jesus in prison.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)meegbear
(25,438 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)And yeah, it's a great illustration why we should never listen to these old white bastards on pretty much anything EVER.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Blue Owl
(50,256 posts)n/t
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)HomeboyHombre
(46 posts)Probably pulling down six figures working for the Koch Bros.
abq e streeter
(7,658 posts)HomeboyHombre
(46 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)It must be nice not having a conscience. The world's a more carefree place for those who lack one, it seems.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)robbob
(3,522 posts)Check it out:
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/08/george_w_bushs_art_teacher_says_hell_go_down_in_the_history_books_as_a_great_artist/
...prob also thinks he will go down in history as a great president...
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Tom hits it out of the park!
surrealAmerican
(11,357 posts)spot on in every panel
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)return over the last week. I feel so terribly about what happened to my country at the hands of these people.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)I love you TOM!!! : Oh god help me, I love you!
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I hear he's going to be on ED SULLIVAN!!!