Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:19 AM

Tom Tomorrow's "This Modern World" Cartoon on the Pundits who were wrong about Iraq

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Tom Tomorrow's "This Modern World" Cartoon on the Pundits who were wrong about Iraq (Original post)	stevenleser	Mar 2013	OP
K & R for truth...	Wounded Bear	Mar 2013	#1
What about the ones who became Secretary of State under Obama?	MannyGoldstein	Mar 2013	#2
The Obamabots are coming for you!	L0oniX	Mar 2013	#5
Would it be more appropriate to call then Obama Drones?	MannyGoldstein	Mar 2013	#6
Perfect! n/t	L0oniX	Mar 2013	#9
Which one? The Secretary of State that said the war was wrong?	baldguy	Mar 2013	#12
The one that said it was right, and	MannyGoldstein	Mar 2013	#16
They said they supported the war while they were in office as Sec of State?	baldguy	Mar 2013	#17
No. So why do we put bank robbers in jail if	MannyGoldstein	Mar 2013	#20
But you are unfairly judging them.	zeemike	Mar 2013	#21
So, you ARE stuck in 2003.	baldguy	Mar 2013	#24
You didn't answer my question	MannyGoldstein	Mar 2013	#26
I'm not putting words in your mouth! I'm quoting you exactly!	baldguy	Mar 2013	#27
One could simply stop rewarding those who were wrong while shuffling those who were right aside.	Bluenorthwest	Mar 2013	#29
+1	love_katz	Mar 2013	#30
Gross assumption	cbrer	Mar 2013	#35
Of course not...	awoke_in_2003	Mar 2013	#31
Tom Tomorrow never disappoints. K&R	myrna minx	Mar 2013	#3
K&R	99Forever	Mar 2013	#4
K&R. Tom Tomorrow 2016!	bullwinkle428	Mar 2013	#7
Entitlement Mushroom Cloud	meegbear	Mar 2013	#8
And dumbasses are falling for it... again! (n/t)	WorseBeforeBetter	Mar 2013	#23
K&R. (nt)	Paladin	Mar 2013	#10
K & R, although in the fifth panel, Tom spelled "LIED" wrong.	HughBeaumont	Mar 2013	#11
led: (verb) - simple past tense and past participle of lead.	baldguy	Mar 2013	#13
Lied... Led... those are mutually inclusive terms for today's Republican	Blue Owl	Mar 2013	#15
K&R	Solly Mack	Mar 2013	#14
I wonder whatever happened to Judith Miller.	HomeboyHombre	Mar 2013	#18
Why,surprise, surprise: She's at Fox	abq e streeter	Mar 2013	#19
Hah! Of course . . . nt	HomeboyHombre	Mar 2013	#36
Wow...she doesn't even try to keep up the facade, does she?	deutsey	Mar 2013	#37
HUGE K & R !!!	WillyT	Mar 2013	#22
Love the ex-pres puppy painter!	robbob	Mar 2013	#25
The Macbeth allusion is just wonderful...	WCGreen	Mar 2013	#28
k & r	surrealAmerican	Mar 2013	#32
I've felt this sense of heartbreak	greenman3610	Mar 2013	#33
He knows how psychopaths talk!	Kurovski	Mar 2013	#34

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:20 AM

Wounded Bear (55,364 posts)

1. K & R for truth...

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:44 AM

MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)

2. What about the ones who became Secretary of State under Obama?

Maybe they'll be interviewed in Tom's next strip.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:49 AM

L0oniX (31,493 posts)

5. The Obamabots are coming for you!

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:55 AM

MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)

6. Would it be more appropriate to call then Obama Drones?

After all, they do tend to drone on, and on...

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:58 AM

L0oniX (31,493 posts)

9. Perfect! n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

12. Which one? The Secretary of State that said the war was wrong?

Or the Secretary of State that said the war was wrong?

Unless you think nothing has happened since 2003?

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Response to baldguy (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:20 PM

MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)

16. The one that said it was right, and

also the one that said it was right.

Until it turned out to be a wrong call, of course.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:29 PM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

17. They said they supported the war while they were in office as Sec of State?

That would be statements made by Clinton after 2009, and by Kerry after 2013. Which, of course, would be contrary to the position held by their boss.

Somehow I missed that headline.

Also remember: THEY WERE LIED TO by the previous regime in Washington. Are they now responsible for Bush's lies?

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Response to baldguy (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:43 PM

MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)

20. No. So why do we put bank robbers in jail if

they declare their crime to be a bad idea after they're caught?

Most elected Democrats voted against the war. What do you think was going on with that?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:59 PM

zeemike (18,998 posts)

21. But you are unfairly judging them.

With standards set for the little people to follow.
Just stop it before one of the job creators gets hurt.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:32 PM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

24. So, you ARE stuck in 2003.

And you would imprison the 60% of Americans who supported the war at that time WHILE THEIR PRESIDENT WAS LYING TO THEM!

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Response to baldguy (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:35 PM

MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)

26. You didn't answer my question

And you're putting words in my mouth.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:48 PM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

27. I'm not putting words in your mouth! I'm quoting you exactly!

"What about the ones who became Secretary of State under Obama?"

Which one?

"The one that said it was right, and also the one that said it was right."

The fact is no Secretary of State under Obama has said that the Iraq War was right. SENATOR Clinton and SENATOR Kerry did support the war - along with 60% of the public - while the Bush Regime was lying to them and the world about the reasons for it. They both changed their position - along with the rest of the country - once the facts about those lies came to light. That's what has happened since 2003, which you oh-so-carefully ignore.

So let's not talk about tossing Sec. Clinton and Sec. Kerry in jail unless you're going to make room for 90 million other Americans.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:58 PM

Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)

29. One could simply stop rewarding those who were wrong while shuffling those who were right aside.

Hagel, a Republican Yes voter, is going to set a record. 16 years of Republican rule at DOD. And he showed very poor judgement when it counted.
23 Senators voted NO, they were correct and they have been shunned for excellent discernment while the wrong, the mediocre and the self serving have been handed the keys to the next war.
Among other things, it is a crappy lesson to teach our young people. Irresponsible and reckless.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #29)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:51 PM

love_katz (2,389 posts)

30. +1

Good reply.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:02 PM

cbrer (1,831 posts)

35. Gross assumption

That Sen.s Clinton and Kerry were as well informed as the general population.

One would believe, at their level of clearance, that they would have access to much more relevant information at their disposal. Kinda' changes the decision making process, or at least the means of arriving at one.

Politics and popularity come into play. No one is innocent here.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:10 PM

awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)

31. Of course not...

Kerry and Clinton only came out against the war they both voted for during their respective runs at the presidency. Kind of like felons who find Jesus in prison.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:47 AM

myrna minx (22,772 posts)

3. Tom Tomorrow never disappoints. K&R

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:48 AM

99Forever (14,524 posts)

4. K&R

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:55 AM

bullwinkle428 (20,579 posts)

7. K&R. Tom Tomorrow 2016!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:58 AM

meegbear (25,438 posts)

8. Entitlement Mushroom Cloud

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Response to meegbear (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:24 PM

WorseBeforeBetter (11,441 posts)

23. And dumbasses are falling for it... again! (n/t)

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

Paladin (26,562 posts)

10. K&R. (nt)

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

HughBeaumont (24,461 posts)

11. K & R, although in the fifth panel, Tom spelled "LIED" wrong.

And yeah, it's a great illustration why we should never listen to these old white bastards on pretty much anything EVER.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:11 PM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

13. led: (verb) - simple past tense and past participle of lead.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:14 PM

Blue Owl (43,815 posts)

15. Lied... Led... those are mutually inclusive terms for today's Republican

n/t

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:12 PM

Solly Mack (89,000 posts)

14. K&R

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Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:33 PM

HomeboyHombre (46 posts)

18. I wonder whatever happened to Judith Miller.

Probably pulling down six figures working for the Koch Bros.

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Response to HomeboyHombre (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:42 PM

abq e streeter (7,658 posts)

19. Why,surprise, surprise: She's at Fox

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/judith-miller-joins-fox-n_n_136075.html

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Response to abq e streeter (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:42 PM

HomeboyHombre (46 posts)

36. Hah! Of course . . . nt

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Response to abq e streeter (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:43 AM

deutsey (20,166 posts)

37. Wow...she doesn't even try to keep up the facade, does she?

It must be nice not having a conscience. The world's a more carefree place for those who lack one, it seems.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:08 PM

WillyT (72,631 posts)

22. HUGE K & R !!!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:39 PM

robbob (3,330 posts)

25. Love the ex-pres puppy painter!

Check it out:

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/08/george_w_bushs_art_teacher_says_hell_go_down_in_the_history_books_as_a_great_artist/

...prob also thinks he will go down in history as a great president...

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Response to robbob (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:54 PM

WCGreen (45,558 posts)

28. The Macbeth allusion is just wonderful...

Tom hits it out of the park!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:14 PM

surrealAmerican (11,140 posts)

32. k & r

spot on in every panel

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:45 PM

greenman3610 (3,930 posts)

33. I've felt this sense of heartbreak

return over the last week. I feel so terribly about what happened to my country at the hands of these people.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:52 PM

Kurovski (34,655 posts)

34. He knows how psychopaths talk!

I love you TOM!!! :

Oh god help me, I love you!

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I hear he's going to be on ED SULLIVAN!!!

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