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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:00 PM Mar 2013

Woman fired from KFC for being homeless

Woman fired for being homeless
KFC manager's version changes



A Tupelo woman hired earlier this month by a KFC was fired Monday after the franchise owner discovered she’s homeless.

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A document signed by that location’s general manager on March 12 confirms Jasica had been hired to perform “prep work” and would receive a paycheck every two weeks.

But when Jasica reported for duty Monday, franchise owner Chesley Ruff withdrew the job offer upon learning she lived at the Salvation Army.

“He told me to come back when I had an address and transportation,” Jasica recalled. “But how am I supposed to get all that without a job?”

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130322/NEWS01/303220029?nclick_check=1
via:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/03/30/worked-over-something-awful/

Tupelo woman fired for being homeless has new job

A woman fired from a KFC in Tupelo for being homeless has found a new job and an outpouring of support.

Eunice Jasica was tentatively hired Tuesday by On Time Transportation to shuttle Medicaid and Medicare patients to and from doctors’ appointments. She still must complete the final stages of her application process but should be on the job by early April, said the company’s office manager, Yolanda Baskin.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130327/NEWS/130327005/Tupelo-woman-fired-being-homeless-has-new-job?nclick_check=1
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Woman fired from KFC for being homeless (Original Post) kpete Mar 2013 OP
Sometimes there are no words,,,, KarenS Mar 2013 #1
Another case of cold-blooded American capitalism at work MrScorpio Mar 2013 #15
Horrible. AndyA Mar 2013 #2
Remember, this was one francise owner, not the corporation. jerseyjack Mar 2013 #33
They hired the jerk B Stieg Mar 2013 #35
KFC corporate can put pressure on the francise owner AndyA Mar 2013 #50
Twenty years ago I actually worked with the sorry assed fuck who fired her.... Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #3
What possible reason could they have for this insanity? treestar Mar 2013 #4
I don't see why living at the Salvation Army Bay Boy Mar 2013 #5
It happens all the time. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #44
Chesley Ruff is in for some fun with the internets. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #6
Something about this story doesn't add up. I know people who have lived in shelters and had jobs. slackmaster Mar 2013 #7
Apparently he's now saying he fired her because he thought she was too old octothorpe Mar 2013 #12
That's awesome that she found a new job sakabatou Mar 2013 #13
awful Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #19
Oh, THAT would be a BETTER lawsuit! WinkyDink Mar 2013 #24
Darn...beat me to it. n/t JimDandy Mar 2013 #27
Glad she got a new job. Apophis Mar 2013 #29
Oh, he is an ageist... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #40
It should not be their business but many that believe the old stereotypes make it their business. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #47
Many places have the 3 mo probation.. fired for any reason at all or no reason. glowing Mar 2013 #8
Oh mercy shenmue Mar 2013 #9
me too Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #18
This is just sad. HappyMe Mar 2013 #10
You know, a lawsuit, even a class action lawsuit, isn't half of what needs to happen here. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #11
Agreed ck4829 Mar 2013 #30
+1 Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #48
Probably hundreds of people get turned down for jobs every day because they are homeless. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #14
American society is set up to punish the poor HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #16
Yep. Homeless people especially. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #20
Had to hide the fact that I was homeless JimDandy Mar 2013 #36
ugh. hate that manager Liberal_in_LA Mar 2013 #17
Dear Mr. Ruff olddots Mar 2013 #21
Why would the boss care if the employee had to find transportation, until she couldn't? WinkyDink Mar 2013 #22
Employers actually can discriminate during hiring JimDandy Mar 2013 #31
Actually they can only ask if you have reliable transportation. MoonchildCA Mar 2013 #39
Was misinformed then JimDandy Mar 2013 #41
I only happen to know this... MoonchildCA Mar 2013 #42
Ah... thanks! JimDandy Mar 2013 #43
good for her Blue Palasky Mar 2013 #23
Working at KFC is awful work... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #25
Isn't that illegal? It should be illegal! First people getting fired for vocing opinions diabeticman Mar 2013 #26
Nope, not illegal. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #45
A symptom of the problem ck4829 Mar 2013 #28
yeah, isn't that the pits EC Mar 2013 #32
I hate that so much. savebigbird Mar 2013 #34
So much for the whole "bootstraps" thing, eh? sylvi Mar 2013 #37
It is stuff like what happened in this story that many have given up. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2013 #49
Now she has a much better job and a chance at a future helping others instead of corporate profit. freshwest Mar 2013 #38
Heartless a$$hole! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2013 #46

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
15. Another case of cold-blooded American capitalism at work
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

I'm still hoping for the revolution to overthrow it

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
2. Horrible.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:04 PM
Mar 2013

Just about the time this woman is about to get back on her feet again, she gets knocked back down.

What difference would it make to KFC if she lives at the Salvation Army? After a few months of steady pay, she will be able to get her own place. If she does a good job, it shouldn't matter where she lives.

Rarely eat at KFC, but will let them know I won't eat there in the future because of this.

I hope the woman gets another opportunity, perhaps a reasonable employer with empathy and a desire to help mankind will see her story and offer her a better job.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
50. KFC corporate can put pressure on the francise owner
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:15 PM
Mar 2013

They should be aware that this owner is creating negative publicity for them.

I've already sent them a message. I'm sure they'd love to hear from others regarding this as well: http://www.kfc.com/about/contact.asp

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
3. Twenty years ago I actually worked with the sorry assed fuck who fired her....
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:07 PM
Mar 2013

He ran a KFC in another small town in the area then and I worked for the Employment office. He was an arrogant, entitled jerk then and apparently nothing has changed. Way to show your true colors Ches....

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. What possible reason could they have for this insanity?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:08 PM
Mar 2013

And yet they'd claim if she took public benefits she was lazy. Crazy.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
5. I don't see why living at the Salvation Army
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:10 PM
Mar 2013

would be a concern. I can understand the lack of transportation, but gosh give the girl a chance to arrange some.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
44. It happens all the time.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:13 PM
Mar 2013

It is the stigma that you are a loser and a alcoholic/drug addict. As for transportation, many use buses to get to work today, but it is also a good excuse to use/ give a person for firing.

Thanks to "Right to work" they don't need a real reason for firing you. Their have been people, qualified people with great work records, skipped for a job because the boss did not think they could work hard enough due to a credit check showed a rough score.
Many employers are looking for something that is hard to find anymore. The Classic Middle Class worker. That is something that is almost extinct now. People come with baggage now. What employers need to understand is that it is the job that will help to relive that baggage and giving a person that chance will make you a loyal employee.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
7. Something about this story doesn't add up. I know people who have lived in shelters and had jobs.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:15 PM
Mar 2013

The shelter's address becomes your address for as long as you live there. If the address is some kind of HR or payroll requirement and you live at the Salvation Army post, just give them the Salvation Army's address.

It's none of the employer's business how you get to work as long as you show up on time.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
12. Apparently he's now saying he fired her because he thought she was too old
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013

and couldn't lift 50 lbs boxes. Either way, the guy is a complete ass and I hope he gets sued for discrimination.


She did get a new job that sounds better than KFC though.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
47. It should not be their business but many that believe the old stereotypes make it their business.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:52 PM
Mar 2013

those that get jobs and are able to keep it on the down low can keep the job. But many cases a Co-worker that finds out and makes a big deal about it, negatively. Then there are managers out there that finds it creepy to hire homeless.

That is one of many hurtles people face when they fight to get back up.


 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
8. Many places have the 3 mo probation.. fired for any reason at all or no reason.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:21 PM
Mar 2013

I'm surprised the idiot told her why he was getting rid of her.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. You know, a lawsuit, even a class action lawsuit, isn't half of what needs to happen here.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

Fuck this shit.

We need national legislation enacting and/or restoring workers' rights.

This is a crime.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
48. +1
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:59 PM
Mar 2013

The rebirth of the WPA and CCC would help so many. We need the infrastructure worked on in this country and we have many that would/will jump at the chance to work again.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
14. Probably hundreds of people get turned down for jobs every day because they are homeless.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:49 PM
Mar 2013

Seems weird to actually get fired for it.

Actually not too different from normal.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
20. Yep. Homeless people especially.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:03 PM
Mar 2013

They aren't allowed to put tents up anywhere where they might be seen and relatively safe. Like a park or something. Instead cops force them to hide out of site in dangerous places like under bridges. It's a cruel system.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
36. Had to hide the fact that I was homeless
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:17 PM
Mar 2013

when I was job hunting 20 years ago. I had a car though, so it wasn't as rough on me as what she encountered, but it was bad enough. The shelter I stayed at with my infant son provided me with an address that was really just a mail drop and a phone number where messages could be left. Without that phone#, I couldn't have landed my job.

Was able to keep my homelessness a secret for 2 months from my employer. Just before Christmas, one of the employees I worked closely with confessed that he had followed me to the shelter after my supervisor let slip that that's where I lived (he had to have followed me first to the daycare my son went to, then the gas station and finally to the shelter). He did so, because his mindset had always been that people who lived at shelters were bums who chose not to work and he simply could not believe that an employee of this firm could be homeless, then hired and have been able to hide their homelessness from everyone (I dressed impeccably, which was a chore because getting showers and laundry done around the needs of 100 other people in the shelter was difficult).

He invited me and my boys to Christmas with his family, who then showered them with gifts--an experience my oldest son remembers to this day as magical.

There are good people in this world who counter-act all the bad ones like this KFC owner.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
21. Dear Mr. Ruff
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:03 PM
Mar 2013

You are the front runner in the Repuke Of The Year contest please report to the 6th. ring of Dante's Inferno .

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
31. Employers actually can discriminate during hiring
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:40 PM
Mar 2013

based on whether you have a car to get to work or not. It seems ludicrous to even ask that on an application form in a place like NYC, but in podunk CO where there isn't even a public transportation system, let alone a subway, it matters. I've been on both sides of this problem...problematic both ways.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
39. Actually they can only ask if you have reliable transportation.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:46 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Sun Mar 31, 2013, 12:53 AM - Edit history (2)

It is not the boss' business if that's a car, a bike, the bus, or your feet. They can only ask about a vehicle if you are required to use it to perform the job itself, like delivery or a traveling sales rep, or some such thing. How you get to work is not their business and it is illegal to ask.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
41. Was misinformed then
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:55 PM
Mar 2013

in the "Entrepreneurship for Single Parent's" classes I took before starting my business. That was in the mid 90s though, so perhaps the law has changed since then?

Eta: You've got me intrigued. Going to check with the Dept of Labor on this, because if my memory is correct, this issue was decided via a court case. Could be wrong, though.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
42. I only happen to know this...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:03 PM
Mar 2013

...because I'm currently in a business class, and we just covered this in the HR portion. Again, they can ask if you have reliable transportation, just not what it actually is. In this case, if the woman could, in fact, get to work, she could have a case.

 

Blue Palasky

(81 posts)
23. good for her
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:07 PM
Mar 2013

seriously am happy for her that she doesn't have spend her time over disgusting fry vats and will be helping others. as for the KFC g.m.: a big middle finger

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
25. Working at KFC is awful work...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

It was my first "over-the-table" job. And, it was BRUTAL. Covered in grease every night. The one saving grace was that I got to eat the leftovers. At 17. 30 years later, I've injected vegetables into my diet. If I didn't, my 1st employer would've killed me.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
26. Isn't that illegal? It should be illegal! First people getting fired for vocing opinions
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:24 PM
Mar 2013

on facebook or twitter that might be "demeaning" to employer or company.

now this.

THIS SERF IS TIRED OF THE BS EMPLOYERS CAN GET AWAY WITH!

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
45. Nope, not illegal.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:24 PM
Mar 2013

If you read many an application today you see that when you sign it, you say you understand they can dismiss you at any time with no reason.

ck4829

(35,042 posts)
28. A symptom of the problem
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:28 PM
Mar 2013

The "You have to be employed to get a job" AKA "You have to already have security if you want to get security" culture continues.

EC

(12,287 posts)
32. yeah, isn't that the pits
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013

they would even suggest that someone who has a vested interest in being at work to earn money would be unreliable.. sometimes it just makes me so mad that they can't see that someone in need is going to make more of an effort to get to work, not less.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
37. So much for the whole "bootstraps" thing, eh?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:30 PM
Mar 2013

At least as far as this prick is concerned. Here's a person making a good faith effort trying to improve her lot in life, and gets cut down because of it. Ruff should be suspended from his job and forced to live in a shelter and see how well he does under her circumstances. It might open his eyes.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
49. It is stuff like what happened in this story that many have given up.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:28 PM
Mar 2013

They fight to pick themselves up. Yet, they get knocked down for it.

The stereotype of a homeless person is the biggest culprit. The face has been dramatically changing for the last 2 decades, but what people think has not.

There come a point in the long fight against the stereotypes that one can't take it any more. Some have fought it so long they end up mentally scared and broken due to the depression that sets in.

The woman in this story is a lucky woman. She has been able to fight the odds. Many more out there that the "bootstraps" that many Conservatives keeps talking about have worn out.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
38. Now she has a much better job and a chance at a future helping others instead of corporate profit.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 04:46 PM
Mar 2013
In the end, this turned out very well because of the outrage over how unfairly she was treated!

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