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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:38 PM Apr 2013

Some DUers' lack of cognitive dissonance over Obama is making others upset

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Autumn (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Most, if not all of us, like the man Barack Obama. How some react to his policy choices, however, is upsetting others and turning this place a cuckoo's nest at the moment.

Belief: I believe Barack Obama is a great man
Action: I'm angrily protesting Obama's disappointing policy

Within this group, some will neither change its belief nor its action as both can co-exist.

On the other hand, there are those, it appears, that simply find this an impossible stance (for it's never happened to them!) and are resorting to demonizing the others -- "You all just hate the man! You're all disgusting!"




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Some DUers' lack of cognitive dissonance over Obama is making others upset (Original Post) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 OP
If we had a special forum for comments like this, it would be called "meta"... NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #1
One rule about META Rex Apr 2013 #4
GD is the new Meta, apparently Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #9
+1 CalFresh Apr 2013 #2
Posts about posts are Mega Awesome alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #3
I find your reply disarmingly handsome, alcibiades_mystery! NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #5
U KNOW how we DO alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
Saying that this mis-step proves Democrats are the same as Republicans is the reaction of some. randome Apr 2013 #7
I am reminded of S. Clemens description of his mother as a kind woman 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #8
I would agree with you Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #10
Well said, but about name calling WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #11
Locking. This does not meet the SOP for GD Autumn Apr 2013 #12
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. If we had a special forum for comments like this, it would be called "meta"...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:40 PM
Apr 2013

If we had such a forum.

Which we don't.

Anymore.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. One rule about META
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:44 PM
Apr 2013

is that there is no META. There is only ZUUUUULLL!!!

 

CalFresh

(99 posts)
2. +1
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:43 PM
Apr 2013
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. Posts about posts are Mega Awesome
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:43 PM
Apr 2013
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. I find your reply disarmingly handsome, alcibiades_mystery!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. U KNOW how we DO
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:47 PM
Apr 2013


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Saying that this mis-step proves Democrats are the same as Republicans is the reaction of some.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

It blows my mind. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

Saying that Obama has ALWAYS been against us and is a tool of corporations blows my mind, too.

Saying 'I give up' especially blows my mind. Giving up is something that should be done quietly from embarrassment, not publicly proclaimed in the hopes of influencing others.

This is only a partial list of victories and endeavors so far.

Pushing for gay rights.
Pushing for gun control.
Covering pre-existing medical conditions.
Covering contraception.
Expanding Medicaid coverage.
Pushing for equitable taxation.
Pushing for immigration reform.
Violence Against Women Act.
Lily Ledbetter Act.

Giving up would not have gotten us this far.

It is NOT enough. But to say that Obama is against us is a wild mis-reading of reality.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
8. I am reminded of S. Clemens description of his mother as a kind woman
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:55 PM
Apr 2013

He said he knew his mother was a kind woman because she always drown the kittens in warm water.

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
10. I would agree with you
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:17 PM
Apr 2013

but only to a point.

"On the other hand, there are those, it appears, that simply find this an impossible stance (for it's never happened to them!) and are resorting to demonizing the others -- "You all just hate the man! You're all disgusting!"

On the other OTHER hand, there are those who resort to demonizing others by labeling anyone who disagrees with them as Third Wayers, Conservadems, Republican-lite, etc., along with calling them stupid, ignorant of the facts, and so on.

According to MANY people here, there are only two kinds of posters on DU: Those who disagree with Obama's 'policies', and those who worship the ground he walks on and refuse to budge from their idol-worship.

They make no allowance for those who support Obama simply because they support his policies. No, according to some, there is no such animal. You're either a mindless cheerleader or you're a savvy, in-the-know, detractor.

There are some here who truly do hate the man. They're the ones who call him a Manchurian Candidate, a closet Republican, a 'ho', a laying jackass, a corporatist, a water-carrier for the right wing, etc.

Now, honestly, does that sound like an expression of mere "disagreement on policy" to you? To me, it sounds like name-calling aimed at the man, not his policies.



 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
11. Well said, but about name calling
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:39 PM
Apr 2013

I don't subscribe to what you say, there. Name calling per se does not equate to hatred. And not all negatively descriptive words equate to hatred. This point, however, we may not agree upon.

Autumn

(45,343 posts)
12. Locking. This does not meet the SOP for GD
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
Apr 2013

No whining about DU.

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