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quinnox

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I will not spend my money at a Hooter's. blueamy66 Apr 2013 #1
when there is a cocks, guys in g strings, we as a family, sit around talking about the mens package seabeyond Apr 2013 #2
+10000 blueamy66 Apr 2013 #3
lol quinnox Apr 2013 #4
dicks? no. they make a paper dick and stick it on the customers head to ridicule the customer, not seabeyond Apr 2013 #6
Sure is. Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #11
Chippendales? n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #113
So why aren't there any of those places? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #9
eeeegads Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #15
Oh... That doesn't exist yet? Agschmid Apr 2013 #77
Sounds to me like an incredible Franchising opportunity. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #104
The closest thing I could think of is Chippendales. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #112
My friend was trying to start a business called Xyzse Apr 2013 #151
Overpriced fast food. Marr Apr 2013 #5
I used to go with my husband for their buffalo shrimp. RiffRandell Apr 2013 #7
Better food than a strip club. bluedigger Apr 2013 #8
Depends on where you live. I know strip clubs in Portland and Vegas where the Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #144
I'll defer to your experience, then. bluedigger Apr 2013 #148
Chris Rock - How hungry do you have to be to eat at a strip club? JPZenger Apr 2013 #149
They're a legit business. Every restaurant chain has a hook. Scantily clad waitresses is theirs. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #10
At least the Kilt has decent food blueamy66 Apr 2013 #17
Nicer as in prettier or more pleasant in demeanor? MattBaggins Apr 2013 #19
more pleasant in demeanor blueamy66 Apr 2013 #30
Tilted Kilt also has far better beer. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #116
I've been a few times with a group of guys, and also by myself several times. Lisa0825 Apr 2013 #12
Haven't been to one in years Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #13
No Whisp Apr 2013 #14
lol quinnox Apr 2013 #18
The atmosphere's not worth having to eat the food. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #16
damn quinnox Apr 2013 #20
When you got guys only interested in looking at T&A, you could serve boiled shoes and they wouldn't hobbit709 Apr 2013 #24
Note to self: Don't order fillet of sole. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #41
It's been several years since I was there, so maybe it's improved. rrneck Apr 2013 #25
Used to go all the time TlalocW Apr 2013 #21
I don't support discrimination or sexism MattBaggins Apr 2013 #22
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #26
I've been to IHOP... DemocraticProse Apr 2013 #23
Gah! rrneck Apr 2013 #28
Was her name Eileen? Ptah Apr 2013 #44
Not if she had both legs. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #121
A gent named Matt welcomed me at the front door. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #140
Curt n Rod Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #155
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #167
No n/t Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #169
Oh, ok. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #170
The food is meh, the selection of beverages is bleh, the servers are young and skinny, slackmaster Apr 2013 #27
I was wondering quinnox Apr 2013 #32
They're all young. They're all on the thin side. Not enough curvature for my taste. Breasts... slackmaster Apr 2013 #34
Women, actually they are girls, who get a top tier modeling jobs BainsBane Apr 2013 #72
The highest paid model in the world, 2012...... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #84
actually many are literally girls, ages 12 or so BainsBane Apr 2013 #91
Then I think you should better define "Top Tier" A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #97
I'm talking about high fashion runway models BainsBane Apr 2013 #111
Hi! Liberal Jesus Freak Apr 2013 #114
And you're a doll. n/t A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #129
besides, I never said all BainsBane Apr 2013 #118
That pic of Gisele is shortly after she had given birth and she is more of a Business person now JI7 Apr 2013 #136
A few times, food isn't all that. But one funny thing. edbermac Apr 2013 #29
Last time I went was to watch a college hockey game on espn2. bluedigger Apr 2013 #120
I was disappointed and let down. Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #31
Years ago MadrasT Apr 2013 #33
They seem to prefer good looking waitresses jambo101 Apr 2013 #35
It's much more of a run-of-the-mill family joint than its reputation would suggest. trackfan Apr 2013 #36
huh, interesting quinnox Apr 2013 #38
sexual tension and fast food don't mix well FreakinDJ Apr 2013 #37
You can't possibly be serious. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #88
Honestly - you sound like a troll FreakinDJ Apr 2013 #130
Burger was ok, didn't care for the fries. Fla_Democrat Apr 2013 #39
They recently began a system-wide remodel program..... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #90
I just felt foolish. Inkfreak Apr 2013 #40
Average food... Quality of waitress staff varies greatly... Pointy_n_sharp Apr 2013 #42
Disgusting hot wings. Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #43
That's so wrong... Atman Apr 2013 #89
I would feel guilty feeding their crappy wings to barn mice... Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #93
It's not a "special order." it's on the menu. Atman Apr 2013 #109
Why are people dissing Frank's? FrodosPet Apr 2013 #135
LOL! I love Frank's, too. Atman Apr 2013 #145
The food is bad, but the views are nice LittleBlue Apr 2013 #45
Been there dozens of times. One near me has a ton of huge, flat screen TVs. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #46
A strip club for people afraid to go to strip clubs Recursion Apr 2013 #47
Equating Hooters to a strip club is like equating Taco Bell to Mexican food. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #64
some have quite good buffets ! lunasun Apr 2013 #67
same opinion i have of decaf coffee and non-alcoholic beer, arely staircase Apr 2013 #48
Once. When my husband and I were on the road. We had to stop Cleita Apr 2013 #49
Pretty mediocre chicken. geomon666 Apr 2013 #50
Never been. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #51
No. treestar Apr 2013 #52
The food is mediocre at best AndyA Apr 2013 #53
I have never been to one, but there is one in my town. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #54
I went once. Deep13 Apr 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #56
I used to go alot Go Vols Apr 2013 #57
I've been quite a few times. tammywammy Apr 2013 #58
Ive been a couple of times, the last being about ten years ago. madinmaryland Apr 2013 #59
My brother in laws best friend was a massive Hooters sufrommich Apr 2013 #60
I thought the food sucked and the beer selections weren't all that great Major Nikon Apr 2013 #61
Bad, overpriced food for those that don't have a beach to go for free. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #62
It's not exactly the kind of place you go for good food. Incitatus Apr 2013 #63
No Hooters close by so no I haven't madokie Apr 2013 #65
My son wanted to go for his birthday. kimbutgar Apr 2013 #66
I've been in several in my quest (some years back) to have a grouper sandwich in every bike man Apr 2013 #68
Just as stupid as you would think? DirkGently Apr 2013 #69
Never been...but talk of voyeurism and tilted kilts reminds of... something ladies may appreciate... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #70
The menu jambo101 Apr 2013 #71
never shanti Apr 2013 #73
Hooters --> Strip clubs as Maxim --> porn. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #74
I was disappointed with the chicken wings. I assumed they would be better. Throd Apr 2013 #75
Hooters offers unbreaded wings. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #80
The food is horrible. n/t zappaman Apr 2013 #76
meh. KG Apr 2013 #78
I worked for Bikinis Dragonbreathp9d Apr 2013 #79
My wife and I went to one in Sioux Falls, SD. MineralMan Apr 2013 #81
"If it's Tuesday, This Must be Belgium" A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #82
Hey, at least it's not an Olive Garden thread! edbermac Apr 2013 #83
Give it a few weeks! n/t A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #85
Do a poll BainsBane Apr 2013 #92
You want the Calendar, don't you. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #106
Love it! A HERETIC I AM Apr 2013 #124
But Tien1985 Apr 2013 #126
Been there, but only to watch sports customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #86
Yes, I've been to Hooters. It's a gimmick like any restaurant. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #87
I think it's a fun place. bigwillq Apr 2013 #94
I've seen them downtown. Rex Apr 2013 #95
Makes me want to go t a Hardees/Carl Jrs. Go Vols Apr 2013 #131
Lousy food. Fearless Apr 2013 #96
I like me some Hooters! CANDO Apr 2013 #98
Hell no... PasadenaTrudy Apr 2013 #99
"Hell no..." you've never been there, but all you see there are mainstream idiots in baseball caps. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #119
+100 Atman Apr 2013 #125
Which is why I tried not to be self-righteous in my response on this thread. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #133
I don't go to places where the food sucks. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #100
In the same way that I would not support Walmar or Sam's Club KaryninMiami Apr 2013 #101
I've been there. Decent food, nice sights, no big deal. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #102
Good fries Hayabusa Apr 2013 #103
No. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #105
Well, the waitresses aren't actually really showing their legs for one. Neoma Apr 2013 #107
They have good burgers... greytdemocrat Apr 2013 #108
bad food and overpriced ..... I almost laughed when the waitress wrote her name down .. Botany Apr 2013 #110
The one time I saw Big Foot it was wearing a wedding band, too. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2013 #122
What's Hooters? pintobean Apr 2013 #115
Now, that's my kind of hooter. n/t UtahLib Apr 2013 #138
I went for the first time last year. prole_for_peace Apr 2013 #117
Never been. Iggo Apr 2013 #123
I'm cool with it, as long as they keep their employees 18-24 and under 130 pounds Ter Apr 2013 #127
Never been, not interested - (reportedly) lousy food, dumb gimmick. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #128
No, but I hear your mother and daughter work there, LMFAO! just1voice Apr 2013 #132
Now see, this is the reactionary kind of stuff I don't understand. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #137
Personaly, I enjoy it. Knightraven Apr 2013 #134
Go pay a visit jambo101 Apr 2013 #139
I'd say its a hoot except that all the online groans would drown out the TV. Kablooie Apr 2013 #141
I prefer to eat sushi off naked women. Apophis Apr 2013 #142
lol quinnox Apr 2013 #147
I hosted a weekend get-to-gether for breast cancer survivors some years back... Contrary1 Apr 2013 #143
Harmless Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #146
I went to one once 10 years ago on a business trip to Orlando deutsey Apr 2013 #150
I've been. AngryAmish Apr 2013 #152
It's ridiculous to equate Hooters with a strip club. Atman Apr 2013 #157
Never been to one. panader0 Apr 2013 #153
One amusing thing about this thread is all the 'I see women wearing less in other places' comments. redqueen Apr 2013 #154
point. not a single person gets that it is not about what they were, but the point of the restaurant seabeyond Apr 2013 #165
Been once, the food was horrible krawhitham Apr 2013 #156
I have been there a couple of times. HappyMe Apr 2013 #158
My father was big in to that and made it in to a Family Restaurant for us Xyzse Apr 2013 #159
Not a big fan but we stop at one in NJ only because the traffic routinely comes to a dead stop.... Historic NY Apr 2013 #160
Good bar food es466 Apr 2013 #161
It's typical bar food. Ganja Ninja Apr 2013 #162
Overpriced. sadbear Apr 2013 #163
Ever been to a beach? What is your opinion cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #164
Overpriced food sold to emotionally immature men. Odin2005 Apr 2013 #166
My daughter worked there for a year Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #168
I'm self deleting this - reason below - quinnox Apr 2013 #171
 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
1. I will not spend my money at a Hooter's.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:05 PM
Apr 2013

The food is average.

I don't like the message the chain sends to young adult females.

Just my opinion...

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. when there is a cocks, guys in g strings, we as a family, sit around talking about the mens package
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:06 PM
Apr 2013

is when i will give my money to hooters.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
3. +10000
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

eloquent words.....

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. lol
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

They do have places like that, you know. I heard about them before. I forget the name of it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. dicks? no. they make a paper dick and stick it on the customers head to ridicule the customer, not
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

demean men.

that would be the difference of using male body and female body.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
11. Sure is.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

They particular place serves "Penis Coladas". A Chippendale's wannabe.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
113. Chippendales? n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:10 PM
Apr 2013

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,816 posts)
9. So why aren't there any of those places?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013
 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
15. eeeegads
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

Now THAT would curtail my appetite.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
77. Oh... That doesn't exist yet?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:02 PM
Apr 2013

Damn!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
104. Sounds to me like an incredible Franchising opportunity.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:15 PM
Apr 2013

You should go for it.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
112. The closest thing I could think of is Chippendales.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:10 PM
Apr 2013

So there's a market for that, I imagine.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
151. My friend was trying to start a business called
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:11 AM
Apr 2013

"Sticks and Berries", I would have invested in the cause, but she lost interest...

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
5. Overpriced fast food.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

I live in southern California, so the outfits are actually a little more modest than what's being worn outside the restaurant. I don't see the appeal of Hooters at all.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
7. I used to go with my husband for their buffalo shrimp.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

With some pitchers of beer, of course. Then the food went really down hill so we stopped going.

I had a friend that worked there...she was hot.

Never had a problem with it; one time we went there when I was 8 months pregnant....no insecurites.

No objections from me.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
8. Better food than a strip club.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

Cheaper, too. You get what you pay for.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
144. Depends on where you live. I know strip clubs in Portland and Vegas where the
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:51 AM
Apr 2013

food is not only much better, but cheaper as well. Add a full bar and, hey, they're strip clubs and it isn't even close.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
148. I'll defer to your experience, then.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:40 AM
Apr 2013

It's probably been at least a decade since I actually went to a Hooters, and to be honest, you couldn't pay me to eat at a strip club. I should have known better than to comment in this thread.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
149. Chris Rock - How hungry do you have to be to eat at a strip club?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:48 AM
Apr 2013

In response to an above post, here's Chris Rock's comments on strip club buffets:

"You know those guys that eat at the strip club? Eat the buffet? How the f** could you eat on a nasty-ass strip club? What? Are you THAT hungry?

Not even Rwandan refugees won't eat that shit! At a damn strip club! Titties and Tater Tots don't mix!"

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,816 posts)
10. They're a legit business. Every restaurant chain has a hook. Scantily clad waitresses is theirs.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:14 PM
Apr 2013

I've been a couple times. I think Tilted Kilt is a better version of the same niche.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
17. At least the Kilt has decent food
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

And the girls that work there are much nicer, in my opinion again.

MattBaggins

(7,897 posts)
19. Nicer as in prettier or more pleasant in demeanor?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013
 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
30. more pleasant in demeanor
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:40 PM
Apr 2013

I did go to a Hooter's once, with the guys, after a baseball game. The waitress was a snot. The bartender was a snot too.

I've been to Tilted Kilt a few times after golfing. The waitress was very nice to me. We even talked about the guys that I had golfed with....she didn't ignore me, the way the Hooter chick did.

But, those are just my experiences.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
116. Tilted Kilt also has far better beer.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:13 PM
Apr 2013

All you'll get at a Hooters is Budweiser & Coors.

Tilted Kilt has a decent selection of real beer, though that's not the chief attraction...

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
12. I've been a few times with a group of guys, and also by myself several times.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

When Hurricane Ike hit, I was without electricity for over 3 weeks. Hooters was one of the first places to reopen near me with free wifi. So I would pack up my laptop, get a table by the electric outlet, and "camp" there for a few hours at a time. I'd have lunch and a few beers, but they surely could have made more money on a larger table, so I always tipped with a $20. The staff loved me because I was a low maintenance table that tipped well and they didn't have to pretend to hit on me or put up with being hit on by me.

The food is marginal, the beer is cold. I don't have a problem with scantily clad wait staff. I see more skin on the beach anyway.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
13. Haven't been to one in years
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013

But their hot wings were fabulous. I'm glad they bottle it now and sell it in the grocery stores.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. No
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
Apr 2013
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
18. lol
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

I get a feeling you aren't a fan of Hooters.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
16. The atmosphere's not worth having to eat the food. nt
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:19 PM
Apr 2013
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
20. damn
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

That sucks, I would think the food would be halfway good.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
24. When you got guys only interested in looking at T&A, you could serve boiled shoes and they wouldn't
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:36 PM
Apr 2013

notice. I knew a couple of women that had worked at one-they were there for the money but they both said the food sucked.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
41. Note to self: Don't order fillet of sole.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:04 PM
Apr 2013

Thanks.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
25. It's been several years since I was there, so maybe it's improved.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:36 PM
Apr 2013

I've never been one for the whole "organic sprouts" cuisine thing so you would think I'd dig Hooter's "sports bar" menu, but that joint is like a meat cartoon. No style, just piles and piles of meat that looks like the entire menu came out of the same pot.

TlalocW

(15,373 posts)
21. Used to go all the time
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

At my first "real job" in the "real world" in the late 90s, I was in a group and made friends with two or three guys who went to "celebrate holidays." They would use it as an excuse to out the Friday before whatever holiday was coming up. I'm sure it was about the scantily clad girls - especially at first - I won't deny that's an attraction, but we all got addicted to their buffalo chicken sandwiches, and we all enjoyed the company of this one waitress, who was very intelligent - she was in her late twenties and going back to college (already had one degree). She worked at Hooters because it fit her schedule, and she realized she had the assets to make it pay well for her - not just physically, but she could do the party girl routine and schmooze. She was personable, told great jokes, and once sang, "Me and Bobby McGee," acapela and sounded just like Janis Joplin.

Plus, she totally insulted our boss one time when he insisted on coming with us (though we didn't want him along). After one of her jokes, he told one that involved ripping up a napkin and rearranging the pieces into a cross, where the punchline was more of an attempt at proselytization. She just looked straight at him and said, "Boy... that sucked."

TlalocW

MattBaggins

(7,897 posts)
22. I don't support discrimination or sexism
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:33 PM
Apr 2013

Discrimination and objectification is always wrong.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. +1000
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:37 PM
Apr 2013
 

DemocraticProse

(28 posts)
23. I've been to IHOP...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:35 PM
Apr 2013

And was pleasantly surprised the staff had both their legs.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
28. Gah!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:38 PM
Apr 2013

Ptah

(33,019 posts)
44. Was her name Eileen?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:14 PM
Apr 2013
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
121. Not if she had both legs. n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
140. A gent named Matt welcomed me at the front door.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:21 AM
Apr 2013
 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
155. Curt n Rod
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:19 AM
Apr 2013

showed me a few samples hangin' from the winda.

Response to Helen Reddy (Reply #155)

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
169. No n/t
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:59 PM
Apr 2013

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
170. Oh, ok.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:00 PM
Apr 2013

Honest mistake then.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
27. The food is meh, the selection of beverages is bleh, the servers are young and skinny,
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:38 PM
Apr 2013

and a lot of jerks go there.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
32. I was wondering
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:43 PM
Apr 2013

Do all the waitresses, um, have "generous" natural figures? Or is it like normal, a wide range.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
34. They're all young. They're all on the thin side. Not enough curvature for my taste. Breasts...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:44 PM
Apr 2013

...range from B to about DD. A woman doesn't have to be a Victoria's Secret model to work there. Of course if a woman could get a top tier modeling job, she probably wouldn't be working at a Hooters.

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
72. Women, actually they are girls, who get a top tier modeling jobs
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:53 PM
Apr 2013

must have very small breasts. The fashion industry seems to think breasts detract from the clothing, as do curves of any kind. The idea is to be a walking hanger.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
84. The highest paid model in the world, 2012......
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

32 year old Giselle Bundchen;




Yup, flat as a board and most certainly a "girl", not a woman.


What a complete load of bollocks.

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
91. actually many are literally girls, ages 12 or so
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

Few work into their thirties like Giselle.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
97. Then I think you should better define "Top Tier"
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:38 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:16 PM - Edit history (1)

I am by no means intimate with the fashion industry, but it strikes me as rather curious that you would use that term and then expect your readers to believe they are all young teenagers.

I think the industry is too broad and the requirements too varied to make such a blanket statement.

Are a certain percentage of the girls that model for the catalog segment younger? Yes, sure. Are they ALL 12? Not by a long shot.

And FWIW, with a short amount of Googling time, I could bring up scores of women (and Men, for that matter) who continue to do modeling gigs well into their 40's and 50's and beyond, faces I have been seeing since I was a child, and that's been 40 years.

Methinks you labor under a misapprehension.

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
111. I'm talking about high fashion runway models
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

For top designers and those who do appear in Vogue, Marie Claire, W, etc. . Catalog is far from top tier. In fact, to be told one is best suited for catalog modeling is a major diss. Many high fashion models are very young. Most start in the early teens. You probably don't realize how young they are because they are very tall and have lots of make up on. I'm not saying they are all that young, but anyone over 30 is very rare. They are considered old at 27.

This one is 10


Gemma Ward began modeling at 14. I don't think that is atypical. What's unusual is the success of her career.




15 years old


This one is 15


They don't give the age of this one, other than to say she is a top model wearing Dior to her prom. She looks much older than the others, doesn't she?


When women start to develop hips suitable for child rearing, they cease being useful for high fashion designers. They want them incredibly thin without full hips or breasts. That's why so many are young.

Liberal Jesus Freak

(1,451 posts)
114. Hi!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:11 PM
Apr 2013
You're a good guy

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
129. And you're a doll. n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 10:17 PM
Apr 2013

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
118. besides, I never said all
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:22 PM
Apr 2013

I said many top tier, and I believe that is true.

JI7

(89,237 posts)
136. That pic of Gisele is shortly after she had given birth and she is more of a Business person now
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:01 AM
Apr 2013

which is how she makes a lot of money. like Heidi Klum and Tyra Banks they are very much involved in a lot of other things besides modeling on the runway .

edbermac

(15,933 posts)
29. A few times, food isn't all that. But one funny thing.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:40 PM
Apr 2013

Got some takeout one time and was sitting at the bar waiting, the guys there were more interested in watching the football game than ogling the girls.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
120. Last time I went was to watch a college hockey game on espn2.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:49 PM
Apr 2013

I was traveling and my hotel didn't carry it. The Hooters was convenient.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
31. I was disappointed and let down.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:42 PM
Apr 2013

There was not a single frickin' owl figurine or piece of owl memorabilia or owl artwork anywhere to be found in the one I went to.

Cheers!

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
33. Years ago
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:43 PM
Apr 2013

I went a couple times with friends I guess to prove I was too cool and "with it" to object

Grinned and beared it but would not go today

I think it is fucking stupid

Long ago they did have good wings if I recall correctly

jambo101

(797 posts)
35. They seem to prefer good looking waitresses
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

I have no problem with the one i go to (New Port Richey Fla.)The waitresses while rather good looking are attired in shorts and tank tops and theres no sexual connotation to the place,i dont have a problem bringing the family there.

Nice view..



and the girls are just waitresses


The food on the other hand is rather mediocre ,i usu

ally go for a mountain of wings,

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
36. It's much more of a run-of-the-mill family joint than its reputation would suggest.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:45 PM
Apr 2013

I think the name, and very mildly emphasized "theme", is a publicity hook. it's not much different from any other restaurant with sports bar style food. If you went to one, you would probably wonder what all the controversy is all about. The food is mediocre.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
38. huh, interesting
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Apr 2013

Sounds like it may not even be worth a visit then.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
37. sexual tension and fast food don't mix well
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:49 PM
Apr 2013

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
88. You can't possibly be serious.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:57 PM
Apr 2013

Look at the picture in post 35, just above.


Seriously? Waitresses dressed as if they are out for a jog creates "Sexual Tension" in your mind? Or is it just your opinion?

Jesus H. Christ by the fryer cooking pickles.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
130. Honestly - you sound like a troll
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:28 PM
Apr 2013

Did I say they were dressed in jogging attire or any reference to any other post in this thread


Pay attention to detail and try to follow along please

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
39. Burger was ok, didn't care for the fries.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

Work in a 3 college town... wait staff was dressed up compared to a lot of pedestrians walking down W. Tennessee street or Pensacola.

Business model is more hype than anything else. If it wasn't for people complaining about them, they wouldn't do near the business they are doing now.


If you have one around, stop by and see. You may even like the fries. It's not like it's Cafe Risque'.



A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
90. They recently began a system-wide remodel program.....
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

precisely because their business is NOT where it used to be, as they have lost market share to the other upstarts as well as realizing their menu has become stale and out of date (according to some recent articles on the industry I have read). But the fact remains, cold beer, burgers and pretty girls won't go out of style.

I get out your way on a regular basis and I agree re: what is walking around, particularly further East toward Ft. Walton Beach and Destin, along Rte 98.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
40. I just felt foolish.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:04 PM
Apr 2013

I went a few times with buddies while in the Army. I guess I just felt like I was being perceived as a guy ogling young women. I mean, I get the idea about the place. And frankly I don't care if the place exists or not. Everyone's free to do what they want & stuff. I prolly care to much what others think, so I just feel silly being there. The food wasn't all that great anyways. Least not at the one near Bragg. The one up here near my home closed down. Lack of business I'd guess. Lots of great sports bars around.

 

Pointy_n_sharp

(29 posts)
42. Average food... Quality of waitress staff varies greatly...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:07 PM
Apr 2013

Ok for a quick lunch or a beer...

They are a legit business filling a demand.

If the food was higher caliber, I'd go more regularly but the bosomy waitresses don't make up for lackluster cuisine.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
43. Disgusting hot wings.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:09 PM
Apr 2013

Breaded (very heavily) and their sauce does not hit you with heat and spice, but rather, the vinegar flavor is overwhelming. The whole "Hooter Girl" thing is way overdone and overhyped. They wear t-shirts and short orange shorts with flesh colored nylons. More skin is exposed in a ballet.

But that is just me.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
89. That's so wrong...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:04 PM
Apr 2013

Not only are all the wings available "naked," as in no breading, there is also a pretty good variety of flavors. The only thing I order at Hooters are the naked Three Mile Island wings, with some fries and an icy cold Sam Adams draft. The wings and fries are always fresh and hot, not premade sitting under a heat lamp. That said, the food in general is just average-to-good pub food.

The servers outfits can only be called "tantalizing" if you're a prude. It's a sports bar, basically. Your comments don't accurately reflect the place, because you don't have to get heavily breaded wings with vinegary hot sauce.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
93. I would feel guilty feeding their crappy wings to barn mice...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:25 PM
Apr 2013

Their "standard" wing is a crappy, heavily breaded, vinegar-soaked piece of disgusting goo. For a place that supposedly has "famous" chicken wings, they suck ass. It is good to know that you can ask them to fuck them up a little less though with some special ordering. If I ever have the misfortune of eating there again I will remember that.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
109. It's not a "special order." it's on the menu.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:55 PM
Apr 2013

I agree that the breaded wings are too much. Not exactly a "piece of disgusting goo," but not good. Part of the problem is that Hooters doesn't use big, meaty wings. They're on the scrawny side, and can't hold up to the thick breading. It's more like deep fried breading with a little bit of chicken inside. I like the Three Mile Island flavor, so I decided to try 'em naked. Again, they're on the menu.

BTW, the basic hot sauce is essentially Frank's or Tobasco, which are both vinegar based. It's pretty common for wing joints to take the easy route and use one of these. If you actually follow Frank's "original Buffalo wings" recipe, it cuts the vinegary hot sauce with a ton of butter. That's usually how the milder wings are made.

Anyway, we all like what we like. My real point was that the op asked about the food, and your implication was that the wings only come one way. Peace! Enjoy your wings!

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
135. Why are people dissing Frank's?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:36 AM
Apr 2013

I put that ish on almost everything! As far as I am concerned, vinegar and cayenne are two of the healthiest things in the world to eat. It has always been an instant mood elevator. It's not stupid hot like the macho meathead habanero sauces, but it will still leave your mouth tingling.

Lentils and Frank's really rocks!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
145. LOL! I love Frank's, too.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:24 AM
Apr 2013

Always make there's at least one bottle in the house. I love it fried eggs. I was just pointing out that traditional Buffalo wings use vinegar-based cayenne pepper sauce -- like Frank's. I doubt Hooters is just adding more vinegar.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
45. The food is bad, but the views are nice
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:18 PM
Apr 2013


I don't go there unless someone insists due to the mediocre food. If I want that sort of thing, I'll pay up and go to a strip club.
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
46. Been there dozens of times. One near me has a ton of huge, flat screen TVs.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:21 PM
Apr 2013

The wings are OK. The hamburgers were comparable to most other places. The beer is cold. What more could one ask of a sports bar is what I'm wondering...

I'll say this though: Anyone who's obsessed with what their servers wear must be totally and completely horrified by how people at an ocean beach or public pool present themselves. Can we please be honest here? It's NOT about their food, it's about what their servers wear and how it makes people who refuse to go there FEEL and why in the FUCK would anyone care? Don't like it? Don't fucking go there. God damn can it be more simple than that?

They're a legit business, their business model works, and if shorts and t-shirts or tank tops are evil, they're all going to hell. The servers will go to hell as well as the managers/franchise owners who kidnap them and force them to work there.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
47. A strip club for people afraid to go to strip clubs
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:21 PM
Apr 2013

Frankly most strip clubs will have better food, for that matter.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
64. Equating Hooters to a strip club is like equating Taco Bell to Mexican food.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:10 PM
Apr 2013

It's like equating Djiorno to pizza or Big Macs to hamburgers.

College volleyball exposes more skin and beach volleyball even more than that.

I've never been to a strip club that served food?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
67. some have quite good buffets !
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:33 PM
Apr 2013

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
48. same opinion i have of decaf coffee and non-alcoholic beer,
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:23 PM
Apr 2013

I wonder what the point is.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
49. Once. When my husband and I were on the road. We had to stop
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:28 PM
Apr 2013

for car repairs. There was a Hooters on the block, so we went there to wait. I didn't think it was so bad. Of course, back in the day I had to go to The Playboy Club with one of my employers to entertain clients. I found the outfits much more revealing and the tone was sexist. The food was so so. The girls were wearing shorts and T's so they weren't revealing anymore than they would at the gym. There wasn't the overt sexism like in the Playboy Club. I live in a beach area so you see a lot of shorts and T-shirts by both boy and girl servers in just ordinary coffee shops and donut shops whatever. I really don't get the outrage.

If they pay permits, licenses and taxes and the waitresses pay taxes, yes it's a legit business. I think the problem with Hooters is the name. If they changed the name to Herb's and nothing else, there would be no outrage.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
50. Pretty mediocre chicken.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:30 PM
Apr 2013

Wingstop is a million times better without the exploitation.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
51. Never been.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:33 PM
Apr 2013

My opinion is there's probably better food elsewhere, and I know where the strip clubs are.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. No.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:34 PM
Apr 2013

But then I know what their schtick is, and it does not appeal to me.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
53. The food is mediocre at best
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:36 PM
Apr 2013

The women servers seem to be the marketing focus. The name of the restaurant, the way the servers dress, it all seems unnecessary to me. I'm glad the folks who work there have jobs, but the focus doesn't seem to be on great food, it's on something else which I feel is a silly concept.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
54. I have never been to one, but there is one in my town.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:38 PM
Apr 2013

I have never heard anyone say that the food was great. One person did tell me that they liked their wings, but I'm not going to go out to eat just for wings.

If I want some food that is just OK, I'll get some bean burritos at Taco Bell. Cheap, filling, fast, and they're not half bad.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
55. I went once.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:40 PM
Apr 2013

I vaguely remember liking whatever it was I ate. I seem to recall the menu was typical bar food. I was practicing law then and I went there with two other male attorneys.

The seating arrangement was unusually high, presumably to be able to look at the waitress's cleavage. She laid it on a bit thick with statements about how glad she was to see us and how cool we were. She may have been partly sincere since the place was deserted and she was paid in tips.

That was about 15 years ago. I haven't had any reason to go again. Apart from their rather awkward "look at boobs!" marketing, it was no different than any other chain tavern.

Response to quinnox (Original post)

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
57. I used to go alot
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

in the late '80's when I lived in Atl.

15 bucks would get you a ticket to a Braves game,a ride to and from the game on a "Hooters" bus with cold beer.

Food was good back then,oysters were decent size too.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
58. I've been quite a few times.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

At a previous job we'd go there after work (place closed at 9pm) and I've been with friends who wanted to go. The food is okay, I mean I don't go out of my way to go there but it's not bad. The beer is cold. I find the waitresses to be no different than any other restaurant.

There are other places that have joined the "breasturant" theme that are more provacative. I went to a sports bar with a friend to watch a baseball game and the waitress wore a bikini top and barely there shorts. And she was a crappy waitress, we had to wait forever for refills and the check, and they weren't that busy (a Friday afternoon).

There's a chain called Twin Peaks and Bone Daddy's. I've never been to either.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
59. Ive been a couple of times, the last being about ten years ago.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:55 PM
Apr 2013

Food is average at best and beer was just the usual american budweiser type stuff. I'd much rather go to a restuarant with local brews and their own menu.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
60. My brother in laws best friend was a massive Hooters
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:59 PM
Apr 2013

fan,so much so that he flew to a Hooters opening in Australia on a Hooters plane. The guy was such a loudmouth blowhard and nasty drunk that every party I ever went to where he was,people would end up avoiding him like the plague.The last girlfriend he had went broke "helping him out in between jobs",he went to jail for punching his sister while they were both drunk and fighting (he was living with her). When I think of Hooters,I think of guys like him and the unfortunate women who work at Hooters and have to pretend these guys aren't blowhard assholes.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
61. I thought the food sucked and the beer selections weren't all that great
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:00 PM
Apr 2013

I never quite understood why so many go ape shit (men and women) over a uniform that consists of gym shorts and a tank top. You can go to the gym, or the beach, or even Wal-Mart and see more revealing clothes without having to pay inflated prices for lousy food and watered down beer.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
62. Bad, overpriced food for those that don't have a beach to go for free. n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:01 PM
Apr 2013

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
63. It's not exactly the kind of place you go for good food.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:05 PM
Apr 2013

It's been years since I've been to one. The grouper sandwich was ok, but the wings sucked. There are so many better places around here to go for good food and a few drinks.

If you want to overpay for barely edible food just to have a good looking sever pretend to be into you, then that's the place you want.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
65. No Hooters close by so no I haven't
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:19 PM
Apr 2013

Probably wouldn't go if there was as I'm not into being a part of what I consider exploitation of the girls.
Having said that I do have a Hooters coolie cup although I've never used it. Given to me by one of our girl friends when she returned from Las Vegas.

kimbutgar

(21,039 posts)
66. My son wanted to go for his birthday.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:30 PM
Apr 2013

He is autistic and didn't get that it was a hot girl bar. The food was terrible. I kept telling my husband to push back his eyeballs. My son said he never wanted to go again. I finally got out of my son the reason he wanted to go he liked the music! I almost fell off my chair. He likes girls but it was because of the music and atmosphere of being in a tropic kind of restaurant.

Hooters is a sad place for women to be pinched, ogled and objectified. I can only hope the tips are worth it for the young girls to justify working there and being treated like a piece of meat.

 

bike man

(620 posts)
68. I've been in several in my quest (some years back) to have a grouper sandwich in every
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:38 PM
Apr 2013

place the served them in north west Florida (made a lot more motorcycle rides back then.) I found their grouper sandwiches to be neither better nor worse than most places - it's hard to mess up grilling a piece of fish and putting it on a bun - but their servers seemed to be more attentive to us, a group of middle age to old motorcyclists, and I attribute that to an effort to increase tips, and I don't have a problem with that either.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
69. Just as stupid as you would think?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:40 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Greasy, over-priced fast-food, an abundance of chubby polo-clad office doods, and tightly-clothed waitresses. And, sports tv of course.

Last time I went I was dragged by a co-worker and, oddly, his wife, who was actually the more insistent. There had been some drinking earlier.

Strange moment when the server leaned across me to examine her cleavage in the reflection of a window and used both hands to "level things out."

Years ago. Haven't been back. A family member did later similarly drag me to a knockoff version (purple shorts instead of orange). I had campaigned for regular fast food, but my companion curled her lip (second time dragged there by a woman) and derided the idea of a cheeseburger. She then ordered a cheeseburger from the Faux-Hooters, which took 20 minutes to arrive and was not particularly good.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
70. Never been...but talk of voyeurism and tilted kilts reminds of... something ladies may appreciate...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:47 PM
Apr 2013

It must have been 30 years ago when I first heard Brian Bowers do this one live. Still laugh every time I hear it:



jambo101

(797 posts)
71. The menu
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.hooters.com/Menu/FullMenu.aspx

Anyone thinking Hooters is something akin to a strip club where sex runs rampant has obviously never been to a Hooters.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
73. never
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:56 PM
Apr 2013

and never will, even though there's one down the street that's relatively new. i just don't like the idea of a restaurant based on breasts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
74. Hooters --> Strip clubs as Maxim --> porn. nt
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:56 PM
Apr 2013

Throd

(7,208 posts)
75. I was disappointed with the chicken wings. I assumed they would be better.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 02:59 PM
Apr 2013

Too much breading.

Their business model of hiring skinny, attractive females doesn't bother me. I won't go there again though, because at 46 years old, ogling 22 year old hotties would just make me a sad old pervo.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
80. Hooters offers unbreaded wings. n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:13 PM
Apr 2013

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
76. The food is horrible. n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:00 PM
Apr 2013

KG

(28,751 posts)
78. meh.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:04 PM
Apr 2013

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
79. I worked for Bikinis
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:08 PM
Apr 2013

For the most part an enjoyable experience- the girls were super nice and everyone looked out for each other. Not the type of place I would frequent in my off time but that just not my thang

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
81. My wife and I went to one in Sioux Falls, SD.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:17 PM
Apr 2013

It was near the motel where we were staying. Neither of us was impressed with the food, the service, or anything else. I've not been in another one. I can't imagine why I would go to another Hooters.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
82. "If it's Tuesday, This Must be Belgium"
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:24 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064471/


DU is, in many ways, as predictable as one of those old package tours. It is Springtime, and obviously it has been a while since there has been a Hooters thread.

Lets dig this lame ass subject/argument up once again.

Next up, if its Sunday, it must be Pitbulls!



Oh....yeah...we did that last week.


OK...BREASTFEEDING!

And then, Circumcision.

We NEVER have a "Who is the biggest dumbass on DU?" thread. Ever.

I am hoping I'll win the popular vote, for fucks sake.

edbermac

(15,933 posts)
83. Hey, at least it's not an Olive Garden thread!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:27 PM
Apr 2013

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
85. Give it a few weeks! n/t
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:49 PM
Apr 2013

BainsBane

(53,010 posts)
92. Do a poll
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

It would be interesting to see the results.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
106. You want the Calendar, don't you.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:20 PM
Apr 2013

Just replace 2011 with 2013.


A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
124. Love it!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:03 PM
Apr 2013

Fucking perfect

Tien1985

(920 posts)
126. But
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:56 PM
Apr 2013

I was just going to make a post all about how I was breast feeding my pit bull at Olive Garden to celebrate his bris!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
86. Been there, but only to watch sports
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

On the other side of the Hooters in Hackensack, NJ, there is a really good beer bar called Firewaters, and I go in there once in awhile. Since they share a kitchen, my food orders are sometimes delivered to my spot at the bar by a Hooters-uniformed waitress, who I always smile at and thank graciously.

Many of the bartenders (and even a manager or two that I've known) in the Firewaters establishment started out in Hooters, and many of them went to work at more upscale places in the NYC area. I guess it's a possible step on a career ladder, if you chose to make it one. I can't say I've spoken with a lot of the Hooters servers, but I invariably find the Firewaters ones either have a degree, or are actively working on one.

I've always treated them with the respect they deserved from the get-go, and with further admiration as they've shared their stories with me when the bar gets slow. I remember one in particular who shared that she was nearing the end of her studies in radiology, then I blurted out, "No wonder you can always see right through me!"

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
87. Yes, I've been to Hooters. It's a gimmick like any restaurant.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:56 PM
Apr 2013

Food is overpriced, not worth the money.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
94. I think it's a fun place.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:26 PM
Apr 2013

I'm always had fun there. The food isn't as good as I thought it would be before I went there, though.
As far as the girls' uniforms, I have no problem with them. Big deal. A lot of servers, male and female, in places similar to Hooters often dress or act in a way that might get them more tips.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
95. I've seen them downtown.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:32 PM
Apr 2013

Never been into one, I hear the food is bland. Walked by and looked in. It is women selling food with their bodies. Ever look through a car mag? What are they selling? The car? The sexual attractiveness of the model? The projection that you can have a model and a car?

Sexual attraction sells. Even food.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
131. Makes me want to go t a Hardees/Carl Jrs.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:40 PM
Apr 2013

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
96. Lousy food.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:33 PM
Apr 2013
 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
98. I like me some Hooters!
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:42 PM
Apr 2013

I also like the restaurant. It is what it is. The girls wear form fitting top and shorts with pantyhose under the shorts. Pretty decent food. Very nice girls who spend time at your table just talking to get everyone comfortable. For those who don't like the form fitting uniform, don't patronize the place.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
99. Hell no...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 04:49 PM
Apr 2013

Boring mainstream idiots in baseball caps are all I see there, eating gross unhealthy food and watchin' da game.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
119. "Hell no..." you've never been there, but all you see there are mainstream idiots in baseball caps.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:37 PM
Apr 2013

You have most of it right, as in it's requisite here at DU to hate certain places (Hooters, Olive Garden, McDonalds, Texas, etc.), certain things (television for one), certain people (too f'kn many to even list a single example here), certain religions (Christianity tops that category), and certain movies (Forrest Gump started more than a few flamefests here, as did Avatar). DU is funny that way. Sometimes it's all about "cred". "Fuck Bush!" as a thread title was once capable of getting you a couple hundred recs.

What I don't get about your post though is the question was "Have you ever been to Hooters" and your answer was "Hell no..." yet you go on to describe the people you see when you're there in as much a denigrating way as you can muster ("idiots... eating gross unhealthy food&quot .

I love these threads though. Being that it's all about credibility, you're likely to see any number of meaningless statements about everything from the quality of the food to the shitty American beer (last time I was there I saw probably 40 different micro-brewed and imported beers) to the stripper nature of clothing their servers wear (it's as much a strip joint as Djiorno is pizza). It's not a fine dining establishment for chrissakes. It doesn't claim to be and in fact their motto is "Delightfully tacky, yet unrefined".

DUers are connoisseurs of fine dining, beer, and other things. They are also mockers of anything the slightest bit kitschy. Gotta love this place; it's the best entertainment day in and day out I've ever found on the intertubes.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
125. +100
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:08 PM
Apr 2013

Well stated.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
133. Which is why I tried not to be self-righteous in my response on this thread.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:47 AM
Apr 2013

But I honestly find the "Hooters girls" gimmick lame - not even particularly offensive, just boring. Nor will I condemn anyone else for their dining/entertainment choices, worst thing I might do is roll my eyes at them.

So yeah, enjoy your beer and hot wings. Nobody's stopping you.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
100. I don't go to places where the food sucks.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:08 PM
Apr 2013

Horrifying as it may be to some that the waitstaff wear shorts and T-shirts, to me that is beside the point.

KaryninMiami

(3,073 posts)
101. In the same way that I would not support Walmar or Sam's Club
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013

I do not support Hooters. Much rather spend my dollars at places that are in alignment with my political views and Hooters which is all about objectifying women's bodies - most especially does not.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
102. I've been there. Decent food, nice sights, no big deal.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:10 PM
Apr 2013

It's not like the girls run around naked or anything. There is nothing inappropriate. You can take kids there and it wouldn't be a problem.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
103. Good fries
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:11 PM
Apr 2013

and I loved that my local one used to show the WWE payperviews. They quit, though, after WWE raised the fees to broadcast them...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
105. No.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

I don't object but frankly it doesn't sound like the sort of food I eat. I don't do burgers, fries and pitchers of shitty beer anymore, not for a long time.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
107. Well, the waitresses aren't actually really showing their legs for one.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

They're like tight skin-toned sweat pants from what I can tell. After figuring that out, it was a rather "what ever" deal. Then we just enjoyed the food and got out of there.

The Tilted Kilt is much worse...

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
108. They have good burgers...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:55 PM
Apr 2013

Yeah...burgers.

Botany

(70,440 posts)
110. bad food and overpriced ..... I almost laughed when the waitress wrote her name down ..
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:57 PM
Apr 2013

... on a napkin like she wanted to hook up w/me. She pretty much left us alone when
she saw she was not going to be able to work us for a "big tip." The chix wings and salad
were average @ best.

I did my one time visit 2 years ago on New Years eve w/my son in Traverse City, Michigan.
Less then 2 hours before we were on Sleeping Bear Dunes and had the place to ourselves ...
the difference between the utter solicitude of the dunes and some wilderness and the
noise and lights of a Hooters was stunning. I laughed when I noticed that all the waitresses
had on wedding bands or engagement rings. Oh well it struck me as really degrading for the
woman but it was "a job."

BTW we drove back to the cabin we were staying in a really thick fog and we saw a big foot
and a UFO too.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,816 posts)
122. The one time I saw Big Foot it was wearing a wedding band, too.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:55 PM
Apr 2013

I think it's just to keep the other Big Feet from hitting on them.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
115. What's Hooters?
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:12 PM
Apr 2013

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
138. Now, that's my kind of hooter. n/t
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:35 AM
Apr 2013

prole_for_peace

(2,064 posts)
117. I went for the first time last year.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:15 PM
Apr 2013

I didn't think that the attire was that skimpy. Their tops are a little low cut but I see more than that when shopping for groceries. And since they have to wear such thick tights it's there short shorts don't reveal any more skin than a pair of leggings.

I did entertain myself by watching the few delusional men who actually thought these women were interested in them but most of the men had all their attention on the football games being shown and barely paid any attention to the waitresses.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
123. Never been.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 07:15 PM
Apr 2013

And the fact that I live within an hour of hundreds and hundreds of restaurants, and that no one's ever accused Hooters of having better than average food, I can't imagine why I'd ever go there. Pretty girls in tight clothes? Like another poster upthread said, this is SoCal. If I want to see a pretty girl in tight clothes, I just gotta open my eyes.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
127. I'm cool with it, as long as they keep their employees 18-24 and under 130 pounds
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:04 PM
Apr 2013

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
128. Never been, not interested - (reportedly) lousy food, dumb gimmick.
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:24 PM
Apr 2013

Anyone who goes there for a form of gratification is either easily amused or really freaking desperate.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
132. No, but I hear your mother and daughter work there, LMFAO!
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:43 AM
Apr 2013

How proud you must be, LOL!

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
137. Now see, this is the reactionary kind of stuff I don't understand.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:34 AM
Apr 2013

Seems to come dangerously close to "slut-shaming" oftentimes. And I don't see how that helps anyone.

P.S. I clearly said, in my earlier comments, that I find the whole idea of Hooters boring and lame. So this should not be construed as a defense of said establishment.

Knightraven

(268 posts)
134. Personaly, I enjoy it.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:02 AM
Apr 2013

I like the Lots-a-tots and I have never met a wing I did not like.

And I will admit, the views are enjoyable to me.

jambo101

(797 posts)
139. Go pay a visit
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:14 AM
Apr 2013

Then give us your take on the place

Kablooie

(18,605 posts)
141. I'd say its a hoot except that all the online groans would drown out the TV.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:38 AM
Apr 2013
 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
142. I prefer to eat sushi off naked women.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:41 AM
Apr 2013
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
147. lol
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:40 AM
Apr 2013

I have heard about that practice. I'll try anything once!

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
143. I hosted a weekend get-to-gether for breast cancer survivors some years back...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:45 AM
Apr 2013

Several of us decided to dine at Hooters in downtown Indy late on a Saturday night. We asked to be seated in the "breast-handicapped" area.

The young lady that greeted us was either very tired, or a bit dense. "Uh, I don't think we have one of those."

The food was average, but the waitresses were very nice. We learned that most of them were college kids with schedules so full, they had little choice but to work late nights.

They were law, medical and business students. None that we talked to were proud to be working there, but the hours (and of course the money) were good.

We spent a couple hours there. They learned from us the importance of self-vigilance regarding breast health. We learned that the ladies employed there viewed it as a temporary way to get where they were going.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
146. Harmless
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:34 AM
Apr 2013

place with mediocre food. I've been to the restaurant twice and the casino in Vegas (is that still there?) once.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
150. I went to one once 10 years ago on a business trip to Orlando
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:10 AM
Apr 2013

A co-worker on the trip convinced me to go to one with him for lunch. I wasn't interested in going to one before and haven't been interested in going to one since.

Definitely not my kind of place. I thought the food wasn't very good and I felt as if the waitress we had was overly friendly, deliberately touching my arm and shoulder at various times during our time there. Not that I'm a prude, I just remember thinking at the time that these gestures on her part were phony and manipulative.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
152. I've been.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:15 AM
Apr 2013

It has been many years but the wings were meh, very meh.

This is my feelings about strip clubs and Hooters, as a guy. You are not going home with any of them so why bother? (Except that one time, and my buddy was already dating another dancer but that was a long time ago.)

Atman

(31,464 posts)
157. It's ridiculous to equate Hooters with a strip club.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:20 AM
Apr 2013

As many others have pointed out, the servers at Hooters are far from naked. On a warm summer day, you'll see people on the street wearing the same outfits. And less...they always lots of heavy underthings underneath those white tops. Maybe they should call the place "Cleavage" instead of Hooters. If you go to the place to see boobies, you'll be sorely disappointed.

As for "not going home with any of them," I've frequently gone home with a tray of left-over wings. That's what I go to Hooters for. I don't go to strip clubs at all.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
153. Never been to one.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:16 AM
Apr 2013

I grab a beer and follow Jeannie into the shower.

redqueen

(115,101 posts)
154. One amusing thing about this thread is all the 'I see women wearing less in other places' comments.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:19 AM
Apr 2013

Apparently to some, there is no difference between a woman being paid to be a decoration and women out going about their business dressed however they like.

And treating women in public as if they are decorations is also fucked up. It's idiotic to assume women who are dressed in any socially commonplace way are doing so to get attention. Bikinis at the beach are not out of the ordinary.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
165. point. not a single person gets that it is not about what they were, but the point of the restaurant
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:33 PM
Apr 2013

that is the issues. girls are expected to sell themselves whether they want to or not, to a certain point, in a sexual manner. as opposed to other jobs, even those that high because of attractiveness.

these restaurants allow a sexually harrassing environment for the workers, because that is the whole point of drawing the boys in.

come on in and hit on, degrade adn talk about our gals boobs. that is what they are here for.

now.... at this point, have i once mentioned what they wear. BUT.... that will be all the pro hooter people will focus on.

krawhitham

(4,637 posts)
156. Been once, the food was horrible
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:20 AM
Apr 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
158. I have been there a couple of times.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:23 AM
Apr 2013

The burgers were pretty good. Both times my sons were with us. There were families, couples and a table or 2 of guys. The boys were about 7, I think. The waitress was very nice and brought them crayons to color on the placemats. We were coming home from being on a vacation, and wanted more choices than the usual fast food. I did send the ex in first to see if it was okay for the kids. The waitresses were more entranced by the boys than they were with them.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
159. My father was big in to that and made it in to a Family Restaurant for us
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:25 AM
Apr 2013

He loved the wings. Prices were reasonable at certain times, so he made us order and sit at a table during happy hour so that we can get a ton of wings for cheap.

Their food has gone a bit downhill since the 90s though. I haven't been there for a long while. I might go there if I want to watch a boxing or UFC fight that is big(there is no cover charge, and I can go for their curly fries which are awesome!). Since I don't know any other sports bars, nor have I bothered to look for them. I rarely go.

We don't see it as bad. I see women dressed up in less in the summer.

My sister sometimes does request me to pick up wings now and then. Although, since we found this Korean wings place, I haven't been doing that either.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
160. Not a big fan but we stop at one in NJ only because the traffic routinely comes to a dead stop....
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:30 AM
Apr 2013

in front of it heading to the stadiums....some stuff is too greasey. The girls make money like any other waitress', although they try to appeal to customers on looks.

es466

(113 posts)
161. Good bar food
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:39 PM
Apr 2013

But the scantily clad waitress/eye candy gets old pretty quickly.

It's actually entertaining to see the middle-aged guys light up because they think these waitresses are actually flirting with them, though .

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
162. It's typical bar food.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:48 PM
Apr 2013

Food is better than a Beef O'Brady's but it's the same wings, burgers, barbeque & deep fried everything. I go from time to time.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
163. Overpriced.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:49 PM
Apr 2013

Mediocre food. Not worth it.

The waitresses don't hurt or help IMO. I eat out for the food.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
164. Ever been to a beach? What is your opinion
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:59 PM
Apr 2013

They wear WAAAAAAY less at the beach than they do at hooters.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
166. Overpriced food sold to emotionally immature men.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 05:30 PM
Apr 2013

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
168. My daughter worked there for a year
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:56 PM
Apr 2013

between real jobs when she had to decompress a little bit. She had a good time.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
171. I'm self deleting this - reason below -
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:00 PM
Apr 2013

I feel this thread has run its course, and it is inappropriate to keep being kicked by replies, at this time. Thanks for everyone who gave their opinions!

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Ever been to Hooters? What is your opinion [View all]

Speaking of Hooters, I never been to one. I would definitely go though, if an opportunity presented itself, like a friend asked me to go or something. What do you think, are they a legit business, or do you object to their business model?

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