Chinese carmaker blatantly copies Ford F-150

[FreakinDJ]

The Ford F-150 has just picked up a doppelganger in China. According to CarNewsChina, Jianghuai Auto Corporation has just unveiled its new 4R3 pickup, and sure enough, the vehicle looks to be a near carbon copy of America's best-selling truck. JAC reportedly wants to provide buyers in China, Africa and South America with a larger, inexpensive work vehicle. While the appearances of the Ford F-Series and 4R3 visuals differ ever so slightly, the similarities far outweigh the incongruities. According to CNC, JAC is a fairly small automaker in the People's Republic that specializes in rebodied Hyundai cars, SUVs and pickups.

Word has it the 4R3 will be powered by a 2.8-liter diesel four-cylinder engine generating just 108 horsepower and 177 pound-feet of torque. There's no word on cost at this point. The JAC 4R3 is set to debut at the Beijing Motor Show in April, though there's no telling how long the vehicle will be on the market before the company gets a call from the lawyers in Dearborn. Head over to CarNewsChina.com for a better look at the F-150 twin.



http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/31/chinese-carmaker-blatantly-copies-ford-f-150/

[dipsydoodle]

1. Well they do say that immitation is the best form of flattery.

Apart from the double cab pickups are pretty much double cab pickups.

[surfdog]

35. Oh the irony

That the US has to go after the mega upload guy but its hands off to China

[AverageJoe90]

36. The hypocrisy is astounding.

But, I suppose that's what we get for a GOP-run Congress, huh? This is REAL copyright infringement.

[Neue Regel]

2. I'm going to go out on a limb here...

And predict that this truck won't be nearly as durable or reliable as a Ford F150.

[HopeHoops]

5. Ya think?

Wait a minute. It will be just as reliable as anything else made in China. Oh, never mind.

[Union Scribe]

15. It's made of all that toxic drywall

they had left over

[Neue Regel]

17. That Chinese drywall was no joke

My in laws lost everything in Katrina. When they rebuilt, unbeknownst to them they built with Chinese drywall. The chemical fumes it puts off irritate my lungs, eyes, and throat, and it corrodes the wiring in electronics. Their house was once again a near-total loss. Fortunately the brand they used ended up in a recently approved settlement. They are now going through the process of having their house tested and seeing which remedies they qualify for.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/chinese-drywall-settlement-approved-01112012

Chinese drywall settlement approved

A federal judge has given preliminary approval to a class action lawsuit that could bring relief to hundreds of homeowners stuck with Chinese drywall in their homes.

In his order, the judge wrote that the settlement is "fair, reasonable and adequate." It's an estimated $800 million settlement.

For years, people have been sick in their own homes. Many were forced out because they or their family's health was in danger.

David Durkee, a leading attorney for Chinese drywall cases, calls this settlement a good step. "Anything that can get relief to these victims is very significant. And I don't really call it justice. You can't do justice to these victims. These victims have been too terribly damaged," Durkee said. "These homeowners have had their health, their homes and their credit scores damaged. Many just abandoned the homes, leaving the corroded electrical wires and defective drywall inside."

[Union Scribe]

33. ...

of course I would make that crack to someone affected by the drywall. Sorry about that, and sorry to hear how much trouble they've had.

[HopeHoops]

3. Look for it at your nearest dollar store.

[Dreamer Tatum]

4. "2.8-liter diesel four-cylinder engine generating just 108 horsepower and 177 pound-feet of torque"

Haahahahahahaha.

That piece of shit couldn't pull off my cowboy boots.

[HopeHoops]

7. You won't get laid in one of those either. My 70 Maverick had more power than that.

And weighed less.

[dipsydoodle]

11. Don't change the fact that may be better suited to the countries mentioned

Its called matching products to markets. If the US did that they might find they might just find they'd got an international market for their cars as do BMW, Audi VW and Mercedes.

[Dreamer Tatum]

12. That motor is not suited to a pickup

Unless your payload is pillows.

[izquierdista]

13. Or third world roads

Might be suitable to a Chinese rice paddy.....with a water buffalo to drag it along.

[dipsydoodle]

16. I take it your used to diesels

which will run on used chip oil if necessary.

[Fawke Em]

42. Ford is the most popular car in Europe and GM is No. 1 in the world.

Not sure why you think US car manufacturers aren't suiting vehicles to markets.

Beemers are junk, FWIW. The initials should stand for Broken Motor Weekly.

[Confusious]

18. 108 hp?

My Samurai has 120. I can get 65 miles an hour unloaded, 75 with the wind behind me.

[Zalatix]

24. I bet my kids could win a tug of war with that truck.

[bhikkhu]

6. 108 horsepower?

...personally, I think that's great, and I would be more likely to buy a 4 cylinder truck that got good mileage, if I wasn't already perfectly happy commuting and running errands on my bicycle.

But I don't think the borrowed styling cues amount to much in the long run (these days they really do all look about the same) - this truck is a whole different animal and no competition for the Ford, anywhere.

[HopeHoops]

9. Agreed. Ford owns the truck market AND created NASCAR.

Not a widely known fact, but the original races (in the 30's) were on mostly sand tracks and almost exclusively Fords. Okay, moonshine runner Fords. It took a while before anything could beat a Ford on the track. Well, now that I think about it, it took a while before anyone used anything OTHER than a Ford for running moonshine.

[liberal N proud]

8. That is what the Chinese are great at

It is easier than designing it yourself.

[BiggJawn]

10. F-150 sized truck? 108 HP 4-lunger?

It'll need a push just to get moving.

[shanti]

27. tell me about it

i was pre-warned, but i bought a 4 cylinder dodge caravan in 2004. not a good decision....sucker really works going up any kind of grade. that was the last year they were made too. everything after that is a 6 cyl.

[BiggJawn]

31. I wanted am automatic gearbox in my '02 Ranger.

The only way I could get it was with a 4.0L V-6...
That truck has never even broken a sweat.

[FarCenter]

14. More details

http://www.carnewschina.com/2012/02/03/the-jac-4r3-ford-f150-clone-from-china-in-more-detail/

The JAC 4R3 Ford F150 clone from China in More Detail

Only 3 days ago we published the first pics of the JAC 4R3 pickup truck which is basically a Ford F150 clone with a much smaller engine. The story went wild all over the world and is now officially our Most Popular Story Ever. Today we have a bunch of new and better pics from the JAC 4R3 pickup truck, taken somewhere near the factory. Yez, this crazy 43R is very real indeed…

Power comes from JAC’s own ‘HFC4DA1-2B1? 2.8 liter 4-cylinder diesel engine, good for 108hp and 240nm. The JAC 43R will likely debut at the Beijing Auto Show in April. Price is yet unknown but based on similar sized and powered pickup trucks it won’t be much more expensive than some 100.000 yuan or 16.000 USD. Size (unconfirmed): 5030×1720×1735.

(That would be 198 x 67.7 x 68.3 inches, which seems smaller than a F150?)

[madrchsod]

19. gm would`t sell saab to a chinese company

gm knew the chinese wanted gm`s platform for a car that would rival gm`s cars in south east asia. the red army also copied the hummer. china has developed very little new technology. they have either copied , bought the technology ,or were given the technology to build products.

[safeinOhio]

20. Off road sport version

with 112 hp coming out next year.

[limpyhobbler]

21. how long will it be before these are being sold in the USA?

My guess, about 5 to 10 years. If its cheaper people are definitely going to buy them. I can remember when people were laughing at Japanese cars. Not funny anymore.

[Fumesucker]

22. Yep, old enough to remember when made in Japan meant cheap junk..

Like the two transistor radio..

[Safetykitten]

30. Remember when we saw the first Honda here, and we laughed and laughed!

How soon we forget.

[BiggJawn]

32. The little 600CC air-cooled two-cylinder?

Yeah, those were pretty odd-looking, but not as strange as the Isetta.

[dipsydoodle]

38. The famous bubble car....lol

[Angleae]

29. A full size truck with 108hp in the US? It'll be the truck equivalent of the Yugo.

People don't buy those kinds of trucks because they're cheap. Keep in mind the weakest F-150 has 302hp.

[dipsydoodle]

34. You're making a joke comparison of a fuel guzzler with a runaround.

The countries mentioned wouldn't want your guzzlers anymore than the rest of the world does. They need the economy of a basic diesel engine.

[Angleae]

44. What countries?

I was responding to a post about them being sold in the US.

[dipsydoodle]

45. Yes

I hadn't realised that.

Apologies.

[AverageJoe90]

37. At least the Japanese products were reliable!

The corporatist Mussolinian rip-offs from China on the other hand.......not so much.

[Zalatix]

23. A call from the lawyers in Dearborn? LOL!!!

China's government laughs at lawsuits from America.

We ought to hit them with an embargo and see how long their economy lasts. Betcha they'll change their tune real fast.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

39. Surely they'd just call in America's debt?

[Zalatix]

43. China calling in U.S. debt means the immediate loss of a full 20% of their entire export market.

China would immediately lose tens of millions of jobs right away, even worse than the 20 million jobs that they lost during America's 2008 recession. This is before all the other countries that they export to, take big economic hits when China calls in America's debts. Let them try and stimulus their way out of that.

The whole Middle East would be on the phone to Beijing - seeing as they'd immediately lose their biggest export market.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

47. What, the export market they'd just lost to an embargo? N.T.

[Zalatix]

48. They call in our debt they also lose Europe.

Not because of an embargo but because China calling in our debt means our dollar collapses -- which then triggers a European collapse. Europe is another 20% of China's exports.

And then there'd be a Middle Eastern collapse because we'd no longer be able to buy their oil.

And that would trigger a collapse in India, South America, Mexico Canada... and maybe even Russia.

China's export market basically shrinks to zero if they sink the dollar.

[cigsandcoffee]

25. I wonder if it will also be an overpriced piece of shit. n/t

[flvegan]

26. And the Geely GE is a Rolls ripoff, the Lifan 320 a ripoff of a Mini.

This is what some Chinese automakers do. They make cheap knockoffs of things that are actually pretty good.

[jmowreader]

28. This is the Chinese' real problem...

This is a Toyota Hilux. It is available in China, Africa and South America--hell, it's available everywhere but the US, where the ones we get aren't nearly as pretty. (And they don't have diesels in the US, but they ALL have diesels everywhere else.) It's also more durable than an anvil.

If that Chinese truck-with-no-engine isn't a hell of a lot cheaper than the Hilux, the Chinese may as well hang it up.

[GeorgeGist]

40. You be the judge.

[Paladin]

41. Are They Going To Copy The Obnoxious, Testosterone-Laden F-150 TV Ads, as Well?

I hope not.......

[Courtesy Flush]

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