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green for victory

(591 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:44 PM Apr 2013

Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute..."

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https://twitter.com/BostonDotCom/status/323886877746790402

Note date and time 12:53 PM - 15 Apr 13

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Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute..." (Original Post) green for victory Apr 2013 OP
WTF? elleng Apr 2013 #1
+1 treestar Apr 2013 #2
I didn't know boston.com tweeted about a controlled explosion green for victory Apr 2013 #3
It's infowars CT bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #4
infowars has hacked twitter? green for victory Apr 2013 #7
So finish the thought you started with the OP, 'green'. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #9
what does infowars have to do with anything posted? green for victory Apr 2013 #13
Finish your thought in the OP. What are you implying? PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #14
i am posting information. what are you implying? green for victory Apr 2013 #16
Nothing. I am SAYING that you are pushing woo woo Alex Jones bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #20
he posted a link that goes directly to boston.com's twitter page of 4/15. unless it's somehow HiPointDem Apr 2013 #29
It's been debunked. Alex Jones is the only one pushing this bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #31
The tweet was issued AFTER the bombings happened. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #33
15 April stamped all over that graphic Brother Buzz Apr 2013 #5
The date on the tweet is April 15. elleng Apr 2013 #6
so what? the question for me is whether it's true or a fake. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #10
You should self-delete before someone calls in the air strike, nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #8
why, all that is posted is a verified tweet and a picture green for victory Apr 2013 #11
Read the other posts--you're pushing conspiracy crap that's been discredited. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #12
it's a link to a tweet from Boston.com and a picture. green for victory Apr 2013 #15
Debunked by Snopes: geek tragedy Apr 2013 #18
he posted a link that goes directly to boston.com's twitter account. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #25
It sure as shit does. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #28
ah, you're right, i missed that. so it's a real tweet, and the thing to do would be to post that HiPointDem Apr 2013 #34
No, the only motivation for posting this is to spread CT bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #43
this thread wouldn't have grown to this extent if the initial respondents had simply posted the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #50
Again, the *only* motivation for posting this is to spread CT bullshit. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #55
maybe the poster had nefarious motives, maybe not. the fact remains that the best way to HiPointDem Apr 2013 #58
When someone throws shit in my space, I throw it back at them. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #60
well, you can do what you like, but your tack does nothing to end what you complain of; in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #62
Eye of the beholder and all... PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #63
not a lecture. it's clear reading the thread that the logical explanations got lost in the various HiPointDem Apr 2013 #65
Your headline:Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute elleng Apr 2013 #17
and he posted it as such. the dates are clear for anyone to see. what do you find objectionable? HiPointDem Apr 2013 #21
He posted it as CURRENT, now, today, headlines tell us what's happening elleng Apr 2013 #23
OP title: Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute..." HiPointDem Apr 2013 #26
OK elleng Apr 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #19
the link he posted goes directly to boston.com and the tweet is there. good fake, if it's fake. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #27
I personally don't believe in the conspiracy theory Lawlbringer Apr 2013 #36
it's not fake, apparently. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #47
CHANGE: It's a screen capture of the tweet from a computer using Pacific Time. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #61
i don't see that the time is fake either. the time shown depends on the time zone the person HiPointDem Apr 2013 #53
Probably from a different time zone (California?) nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #32
You thought the tinfoil hatters were analytical? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #41
No, they believe what they want to believe. Just like the people geek tragedy Apr 2013 #51
dunno what you're looking at, it's right there and according to snopes, the tweet is real & HiPointDem Apr 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #46
this is boston.com, and i see it. not to mention it's been verified by snopes and now by HiPointDem Apr 2013 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #56
the time shown depends on what time zone the person who accesses the tweets is in. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #59
and if someone had said 'the time is different for each person who accesses; the time in boston HiPointDem Apr 2013 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #66
it's there. several times, in fact. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #54
When I hit the link it says 2:53 pm. It depends on what time zone you are in. maddezmom Apr 2013 #37
Me, too. I'm in Central, so I get 2:53. And that means 3:53 pm Eastern. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #39
LOL!! maddezmom Apr 2013 #42
They flat out LIE to push their conspiracies. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #44
So?... SidDithers Apr 2013 #45
Thanks to the OP for allowing the CT crap that the tweet is nefarious to be debunked. Again. onenote Apr 2013 #49
Locking. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2013 #67

elleng

(130,860 posts)
1. WTF?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:47 PM
Apr 2013


This was last week. WHY are you putting such a Headline up NOW???

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. +1
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:49 PM
Apr 2013

I thought they might have gotten the suspect to tell them of another bomb!

 

green for victory

(591 posts)
3. I didn't know boston.com tweeted about a controlled explosion
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:55 PM
Apr 2013

if this is old news i apologize. The first I heard about this was a few minutes ago.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
4. It's infowars CT bullshit.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:56 PM
Apr 2013
 

green for victory

(591 posts)
7. infowars has hacked twitter?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

did you click the link?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. So finish the thought you started with the OP, 'green'.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:59 PM
Apr 2013

What point are you trying to make or raise?

 

green for victory

(591 posts)
13. what does infowars have to do with anything posted?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:01 PM
Apr 2013

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
14. Finish your thought in the OP. What are you implying?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013
 

green for victory

(591 posts)
16. i am posting information. what are you implying?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:03 PM
Apr 2013

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
20. Nothing. I am SAYING that you are pushing woo woo Alex Jones bullshit.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:04 PM
Apr 2013
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
29. he posted a link that goes directly to boston.com's twitter page of 4/15. unless it's somehow
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:12 PM
Apr 2013

been faked, it *exists*. that's not woo.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
31. It's been debunked. Alex Jones is the only one pushing this bullshit.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:13 PM
Apr 2013
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. The tweet was issued AFTER the bombings happened.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:16 PM
Apr 2013

Jesus Christ.

Brother Buzz

(36,411 posts)
5. 15 April stamped all over that graphic
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

elleng

(130,860 posts)
6. The date on the tweet is April 15.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

It is indeed old news.
I suggest you delete it.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
10. so what? the question for me is whether it's true or a fake.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:00 PM
Apr 2013
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. You should self-delete before someone calls in the air strike, nt
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 04:59 PM
Apr 2013
 

green for victory

(591 posts)
11. why, all that is posted is a verified tweet and a picture
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:00 PM
Apr 2013

please elaborate

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Read the other posts--you're pushing conspiracy crap that's been discredited. nt
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:01 PM
Apr 2013
 

green for victory

(591 posts)
15. it's a link to a tweet from Boston.com and a picture.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

if you see conspiracy please tell me where

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Debunked by Snopes:
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:04 PM
Apr 2013
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
25. he posted a link that goes directly to boston.com's twitter account.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013
https://twitter.com/BostonDotCom/status/323886877746790402

& i don't see anything in your link that debunks the tweet or even mentions it.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
28. It sure as shit does.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:11 PM
Apr 2013
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
34. ah, you're right, i missed that. so it's a real tweet, and the thing to do would be to post that
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:16 PM
Apr 2013

explanatory material rather than (as most posters here have done) tell him to delete it.

the tweet seems to have a rational explanation. bringing that explanation to wider attention does more to stop wild speculation than banning the fact of the tweet.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
43. No, the only motivation for posting this is to spread CT bullshit.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:22 PM
Apr 2013

And the OP should be called out for it.

Harshly.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
50. this thread wouldn't have grown to this extent if the initial respondents had simply posted the
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:30 PM
Apr 2013

explanation clearly rather than telling the poster to delete it because a) it was fake b) it was old news c) it was conspiracy theory d) the poster has bad motivations.

the attempt to cover up truthful information (such a tweet occurred) makes people believe there's more to it than there apparently is.

i'm satisfied with the explanation from snopes; i think most people would be. the motivation of the poster could be to spread false rumors; it could just as easily be that he saw the information uncontextualized, just as it almost was here.

why spend so much venom addressing the motives of the poster when you could cut off the whole line of inquiry by posting the explanation?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
55. Again, the *only* motivation for posting this is to spread CT bullshit.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:36 PM
Apr 2013

Has the OP returned to 'thank' anyone for correction? Or to reply at all to debunking? Or answer what they were trying to imply with OP.

no, no and no.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
58. maybe the poster had nefarious motives, maybe not. the fact remains that the best way to
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:40 PM
Apr 2013

cut off the speculation is to post a clear, calm evidence-based rebuttal.

attempting to silence the poster or brand him a conspiracy theorist don't help; they actually lend weight to the belief that the 'ptb' don't want the information to be known.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
60. When someone throws shit in my space, I throw it back at them.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:42 PM
Apr 2013

To each his own.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
62. well, you can do what you like, but your tack does nothing to end what you complain of; in
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:46 PM
Apr 2013

fact, it makes it worse.

nothing shuts down such discussion like clear factual rebuttal.

attempts to silence or smear the poster add fuel to the fire.

yes, to each his own.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
63. Eye of the beholder and all...
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:47 PM
Apr 2013

but thanks for the lecture in "internetting". Be careful getting off of that horse!!

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
65. not a lecture. it's clear reading the thread that the logical explanations got lost in the various
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:53 PM
Apr 2013

uninformative attempts to shut down/smear the poster.

elleng

(130,860 posts)
17. Your headline:Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:03 PM
Apr 2013

Was a 'verified tweet' ONE WEEK AGO, it is highly misleading, kind of like CNN (and fox) specialize in, and we try to avoid such at DU.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
21. and he posted it as such. the dates are clear for anyone to see. what do you find objectionable?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:04 PM
Apr 2013

elleng

(130,860 posts)
23. He posted it as CURRENT, now, today, headlines tell us what's happening
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:07 PM
Apr 2013

and his causes us to think this is happening NOW, and have to read small print @ tweet to confirm this was one week ago.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
26. OP title: Boston.com tweet (15APR): "controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute..."
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:10 PM
Apr 2013

there are no edits on the post, so that's the original title. so he clearly IDs the date in the title. the only reason you'd think it was about NOW is because you didn't read it.

elleng

(130,860 posts)
30. OK
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:12 PM
Apr 2013

Response to green for victory (Original post)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
22. the link he posted goes directly to boston.com and the tweet is there. good fake, if it's fake.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:06 PM
Apr 2013

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #22)

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
36. I personally don't believe in the conspiracy theory
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

but kind of an argument to your post is that: If the tweet is deleted, it won't show up.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
38. it's not fake, apparently.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:18 PM
Apr 2013

On the afternoon of April 15, the Twitter feed of the Boston Globe reported that officials had stated "There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities"...

However, this tweet was issued about an hour after the bomb blasts and referenced a controlled detonation of a suspicious device near the central branch of the Boston Public Library, which is on the stretch of Boylston Street where the initial explosions occurred.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston.asp#globe

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #38)

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
52. CHANGE: It's a screen capture of the tweet from a computer using Pacific Time.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:32 PM
Apr 2013

My previous guess was wrong. It's not embedded here, it's a screen grab. So the computer it was grabbed from was set to Pacific time.

Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #52)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
53. i don't see that the time is fake either. the time shown depends on the time zone the person
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:33 PM
Apr 2013

who accesses it is in, apparently. to me it says 12:53 (west coast).

that's not nefarious.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. Probably from a different time zone (California?) nt
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:09 PM
Apr 2013

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #24)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. You thought the tinfoil hatters were analytical?
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

Nope. The fact that the 911 Dungeon is now called "Creative Speculation" pretty much says it all.

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #35)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
51. No, they believe what they want to believe. Just like the people
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:31 PM
Apr 2013

who think they see the Virgin Mary in the shadow of their shrubs.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
40. dunno what you're looking at, it's right there and according to snopes, the tweet is real &
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:20 PM
Apr 2013

has an explanation.

there are several similar tweets, actually:

12:53 PM - 15 Apr 13

Robert Anhalt Robert Anhalt ?@ranhalt 15 Apr

@BostonDotCom that's not much advance notice
Details
John Nolte John Nolte ?@NolteNC 15 Apr

!! RT @BostonDotCom Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.
Details
Meredith Frost Meredith Frost ?@MeredithFrost 15 Apr

RT “@BostonDotCom: Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.”
Details
Tracy Solomon Tracy Solomon ?@tracysolomon 15 Apr

RT @BostonDotCom: Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.
Details
nathan leroy nathan leroy ?@deathtripp135 15 Apr

@ranhalt @BostonDotCom what are they suppose to do?! give everyone the notice and then wait for everyone to say "okay i'm ready!"
Details
Amy Fried Amy Fried ?@ASFried 15 Apr

“@BostonDotCom: Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.”
Details
GarCasey GarCasey ?@GarCasey 15 Apr

RT @BostonDotCom: Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.
Details

https://twitter.com/BostonDotCom/status/323886877746790402

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/boston.asp#globe

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #40)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
48. this is boston.com, and i see it. not to mention it's been verified by snopes and now by
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:25 PM
Apr 2013

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #48)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
57. the time shown depends on what time zone the person who accesses the tweets is in.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:39 PM
Apr 2013

for me it says 12:53.

not nefarious.

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #57)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
64. and if someone had said 'the time is different for each person who accesses; the time in boston
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
Apr 2013

was 3:53; this is after the blast and this was the bomb squad acting in response to a threat'

all this long thread of confusion could have been avoided.

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #64)

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
54. it's there. several times, in fact.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:35 PM
Apr 2013

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
37. When I hit the link it says 2:53 pm. It depends on what time zone you are in.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities.
2:53pm - 15 Apr 13

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
39. Me, too. I'm in Central, so I get 2:53. And that means 3:53 pm Eastern.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:19 PM
Apr 2013

And, look! It's 4:20 pm Central time!

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
42. LOL!!
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:22 PM
Apr 2013

You would think the CT'ers would have time stamps down after all these years.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
44. They flat out LIE to push their conspiracies.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:23 PM
Apr 2013

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
45. So?...
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:23 PM
Apr 2013

So they blew up a suspicious package an hour after the bombs went off at the finish line.

Is this news?

Sid

onenote

(42,685 posts)
49. Thanks to the OP for allowing the CT crap that the tweet is nefarious to be debunked. Again.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

Although it seems unlikely that was the OP's intent.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
67. Locking.
Mon Apr 22, 2013, 06:04 PM
Apr 2013

This post is outside the SOP for GD. It's better suited for Creative Speculation.

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