Four Dead in Ohio

[H2O Man]

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
-- Neil Young

I will always remember this day.

[cantbeserious]

1. Ohio - CSNY

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[Hissyspit]

39. Found this on Facebook. I had never seen it before:

Don't know the source.

[cantbeserious]

40. The Day The Music Died In America

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. ...

[UncleYoder]

3. 12:24 pm

Never forget. Never forgive.

[truebluegreen]

10. GMTA.

See below.

And welcome to DU.

[malaise]

4. Kent State destroyed all my naive assumptions about America the free

I had three siblings in US colleges and I was scared for all of them.

[struggle4progress]

21. +

[lastlib]

28. It drew the line in the sand for the corpo-fascists......

they made their message clear: cross that line and interfere with their profits at your peril.

It was The Day America Died.

[malaise]

34. Excellent point

I'm not sure America died but a pathology was identified.

[pacalo]

5. K&R.

[RobertEarl]

6. Some people, even today, have not learned the lesson

The lesson being that some people in government will do whatever they can to fuck with you.

Why some still laugh at the idea of government, and corporations, fucking with people, I don't have a clue. To me they appear deluded.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

7. K&R

It's been a long time coming
Going to be a long gone
And it appears to be a long
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Before the dawn -D. Crosby

I remember seeing the Life magazine.
12 years old.

"Speak out against the madness."

[COORACPRO]

8. I Remeber!

That day truly changed my life forever.

[truebluegreen]

9. Never forgive. Never forget.

[KoKo]

11. For You...

Simon & Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence

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[zeemike]

13. Damn I love their harmony.

And that is one of their best songs to demonstrate it.

[11 Bravo]

36. Hell, that choked me up. I had not seen that before, but it is one of the finest live ...

performances I've ever seen!

[zeemike]

12. It was one of the defining moments in my history too

When I lost my illusions about this country being all about freedom and such...
And just as today there were those who made excuses for it and tried to blame the protesters for it...nothing has changed, except now they are dressed like ninjas and carrying assault rifles...and will fire many more bullets.

[KoKo]

15. At that time...I was very much living with the Subway Walls...and yeah....

I understand exactly what you say..after all these years...the words ring true.

yes...

[spanone]

14. ....like it was yesterday.

recommended.

[madrchsod]

16. that day was really hard to process....

what the fuck ...they murdered 4 students?

a war our generation is still paying for.

[KoKo]

17. I don't think that many of us who lived through that time...would have

EVER imagined what is going on with "Our Wars" today.

I think we thought Vietnam when we pulled out under terrible circumstances would live FOREVER IN INFAMY.

But...that was not to be.

[mountain grammy]

18. Terrible memory, shocking!

I remember leaving work, picking up my 2 year old son, holding him tight and wondering what kind of world did I bring him into.

[LeftInTX]

19. Get shot in Vietnam or get shot protesting the war

That's how it felt. I was 13

[ReRe]

20. Always...

remember.

[rhett o rick]

22. k&r thanks for posting.

[CanonRay]

23. This day still makes me sad

[greatlaurel]

24. Never Forget

I play that song for my kids, so they know what happened. Let us never forget the Orangeburg massacre in 1968 and the Jackson State killings on May 15, 1970, either.

James Rhodes, the completely corrupt Ohio governor, was in cahoots with Nixon to shut down the student protests. The murders of the Kent State Four and the Jackson State Two were crimes against humanity. There should have been a war crimes trial, but it was all whitewashed away. Many of the students murdered or shot at Kent State were just going to class. Talk about terrorism.

[madokie]

25. I'll never forget it

I was in Vietnam, been there since june of '69. finally left in october of '70. I did then and do still until today believe the protesters here in our cities were who stopped this senseless killing of both our fellow brothers and sisters as well as the innocent Vietnamese people who were only fighting to save their own land from invaders and occupiers. Us.
I still carry the burden of my 15 months in country on my shoulders and will the rest of my life. War is not for children.
I could imagine what the national guardsmen who did this must feel today. After all they could have shot into the ground or above the kids heads but we know at least four of them didn't do either.
Peace

[raccoon]

29. More than four, some students were wounded.

I was a college student when the Kent State murders happened. I'll never forget it.

[Newest Reality]

26. Me too.

It was revealing to many and tragic in more ways than one for most of us.

Goes right up there with the Democratic Convention in '68 hosted by the Daley Regime where around 10,000 protesters were met with over 23,000 police and National Guardsmen. A bloody day that also peeled the thin mask of civilization off the grimacing skull of unchecked power.

Four dead in Ohio. Pause to reflect.

[Octafish]

27. Ohio National Guard opened fire without warning and aimed to kill.

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More Kent State, Ohio Massacre Coverup Evidence Surfaces

EXCERPT...

To understand the events of May 4, 1970 at Kent State and the four dead in Ohio, is to understand much of what has happened in our history before, during and after.

[raccoon]

30. And there were no consequences for the Ohio National Guard. nt

[saidsimplesimon]

31. Octafish, thank you for the link to Neil Young News. You reminded me

of a 1968 "Punk Rock" song by Arthur Brown, "Fire". I don't know the songwriter. The lyrics reminded me of hellfire missiles, and napalm used in Cambodia and Viet Nam.

The photos of the bombing in Syria reminded me of this. I will never forget Kent State, nor more recent events that defy any illusion that anything has changed.

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Arthur Brown 1968 “Fire”


I am the god of hell fire and I bring you:

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!
You fought hard and you saved and learned

but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind
Your tiny mind
You know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind.
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no
Oh no
Oh no
You gonna burn!

Fire
To destroy all you've done.
Fire
To end all you've become.
I'll feel your burn!

You've been living like a little girl
In the middle of your little world.
And your mind
Your tiny mind
You know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind
You're falling far too far behind.

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
You gonna burn, burn, burn
Fire
I'll take you to burn

[bread_and_roses]

32. I too ... with great sorrow

I remember the shock, the horror, the disbelief while knowing it was so ...

... and I still wonder what happened to us, my generation, that we lost all the knowledge so hard gained, and retreated into the status quo, and helped create the monstrous system we have now?

[suffragette]

33. Always remember

Always.

[Cooley Hurd]

35. Thank you Pat!

GREAT thread!!

[H2O Man]

37. Thank you!

I like the thread, too. It's representative of why I continue to participate on this forum. I appreciate everyone's contributions.

[SCVDem]

38. I always play Ohio!

Then I explain it to anyone not familiar with the song or context.

This is the NRA, in their mind.