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Sat May 4, 2013, 07:08 PM

Four Dead in Ohio

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
-- Neil Young

I will always remember this day.

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Reply Four Dead in Ohio (Original post)
H2O Man May 2013 OP
cantbeserious May 2013 #1
Hissyspit May 2013 #39
cantbeserious May 2013 #40
CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #2
UncleYoder May 2013 #3
truebluegreen May 2013 #10
malaise May 2013 #4
LineLineReply +
struggle4progress May 2013 #21
lastlib May 2013 #28
malaise May 2013 #34
pacalo May 2013 #5
RobertEarl May 2013 #6
CrazyOrangeCat May 2013 #7
COORACPRO May 2013 #8
truebluegreen May 2013 #9
KoKo May 2013 #11
zeemike May 2013 #13
11 Bravo May 2013 #36
zeemike May 2013 #12
KoKo May 2013 #15
spanone May 2013 #14
madrchsod May 2013 #16
KoKo May 2013 #17
mountain grammy May 2013 #18
LeftInTX May 2013 #19
ReRe May 2013 #20
rhett o rick May 2013 #22
CanonRay May 2013 #23
greatlaurel May 2013 #24
madokie May 2013 #25
raccoon May 2013 #29
Newest Reality May 2013 #26
Octafish May 2013 #27
raccoon May 2013 #30
saidsimplesimon May 2013 #31
bread_and_roses May 2013 #32
suffragette May 2013 #33
Cooley Hurd May 2013 #35
H2O Man May 2013 #37
SCVDem May 2013 #38

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:10 PM

1. Ohio - CSNY

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Sun May 5, 2013, 07:09 PM

39. Found this on Facebook. I had never seen it before:

Don't know the source.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #39)

Mon May 6, 2013, 06:31 AM

40. The Day The Music Died In America

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:13 PM

2. ...

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:13 PM

3. 12:24 pm

 

Never forget. Never forgive.

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Response to UncleYoder (Reply #3)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:17 PM

10. GMTA.

 

See below.

And welcome to DU.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:13 PM

4. Kent State destroyed all my naive assumptions about America the free

I had three siblings in US colleges and I was scared for all of them.

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:55 PM

21. +

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun May 5, 2013, 10:51 AM

28. It drew the line in the sand for the corpo-fascists......

they made their message clear: cross that line and interfere with their profits at your peril.

It was The Day America Died.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #28)

Sun May 5, 2013, 02:07 PM

34. Excellent point

I'm not sure America died but a pathology was identified.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:16 PM

5. K&R.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:21 PM

6. Some people, even today, have not learned the lesson

 

The lesson being that some people in government will do whatever they can to fuck with you.

Why some still laugh at the idea of government, and corporations, fucking with people, I don't have a clue. To me they appear deluded.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 07:36 PM

7. K&R

It's been a long time coming
Going to be a long gone
And it appears to be a long
Appears to be a long
Appears to be a long time
Before the dawn -D. Crosby

I remember seeing the Life magazine.
12 years old.

"Speak out against the madness."

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:05 PM

8. I Remeber!

That day truly changed my life forever.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:16 PM

9. Never forgive. Never forget.

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:18 PM

11. For You...



Simon & Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence

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Response to KoKo (Reply #11)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:39 PM

13. Damn I love their harmony.

And that is one of their best songs to demonstrate it.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #11)

Sun May 5, 2013, 02:26 PM

36. Hell, that choked me up. I had not seen that before, but it is one of the finest live ...

performances I've ever seen!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:33 PM

12. It was one of the defining moments in my history too

When I lost my illusions about this country being all about freedom and such...
And just as today there were those who made excuses for it and tried to blame the protesters for it...nothing has changed, except now they are dressed like ninjas and carrying assault rifles...and will fire many more bullets.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #12)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:51 PM

15. At that time...I was very much living with the Subway Walls...and yeah....

I understand exactly what you say..after all these years...the words ring true.

yes...

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 08:46 PM

14. ....like it was yesterday.

recommended.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:10 PM

16. that day was really hard to process....


what the fuck ...they murdered 4 students?

a war our generation is still paying for.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #16)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:17 PM

17. I don't think that many of us who lived through that time...would have

EVER imagined what is going on with "Our Wars" today.

I think we thought Vietnam when we pulled out under terrible circumstances would live FOREVER IN INFAMY.

But...that was not to be.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:44 PM

18. Terrible memory, shocking!

I remember leaving work, picking up my 2 year old son, holding him tight and wondering what kind of world did I bring him into.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:50 PM

19. Get shot in Vietnam or get shot protesting the war

That's how it felt. I was 13

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 09:53 PM

20. Always...

remember.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:08 PM

22. k&r thanks for posting.

 

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 08:59 AM

23. This day still makes me sad

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 09:15 AM

24. Never Forget

I play that song for my kids, so they know what happened. Let us never forget the Orangeburg massacre in 1968 and the Jackson State killings on May 15, 1970, either.

James Rhodes, the completely corrupt Ohio governor, was in cahoots with Nixon to shut down the student protests. The murders of the Kent State Four and the Jackson State Two were crimes against humanity. There should have been a war crimes trial, but it was all whitewashed away. Many of the students murdered or shot at Kent State were just going to class. Talk about terrorism.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 09:30 AM

25. I'll never forget it

I was in Vietnam, been there since june of '69. finally left in october of '70. I did then and do still until today believe the protesters here in our cities were who stopped this senseless killing of both our fellow brothers and sisters as well as the innocent Vietnamese people who were only fighting to save their own land from invaders and occupiers. Us.
I still carry the burden of my 15 months in country on my shoulders and will the rest of my life. War is not for children.
I could imagine what the national guardsmen who did this must feel today. After all they could have shot into the ground or above the kids heads but we know at least four of them didn't do either.
Peace

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Response to madokie (Reply #25)

Sun May 5, 2013, 11:45 AM

29. More than four, some students were wounded.


I was a college student when the Kent State murders happened. I'll never forget it.


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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 09:41 AM

26. Me too.

It was revealing to many and tragic in more ways than one for most of us.

Goes right up there with the Democratic Convention in '68 hosted by the Daley Regime where around 10,000 protesters were met with over 23,000 police and National Guardsmen. A bloody day that also peeled the thin mask of civilization off the grimacing skull of unchecked power.

Four dead in Ohio. Pause to reflect.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 09:44 AM

27. Ohio National Guard opened fire without warning and aimed to kill.

?396

More Kent State, Ohio Massacre Coverup Evidence Surfaces

EXCERPT...

To understand the events of May 4, 1970 at Kent State and the four dead in Ohio, is to understand much of what has happened in our history before, during and after.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #27)

Sun May 5, 2013, 11:47 AM

30. And there were no consequences for the Ohio National Guard. nt

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Response to Octafish (Reply #27)

Sun May 5, 2013, 11:53 AM

31. Octafish, thank you for the link to Neil Young News. You reminded me

of a 1968 "Punk Rock" song by Arthur Brown, "Fire". I don't know the songwriter. The lyrics reminded me of hellfire missiles, and napalm used in Cambodia and Viet Nam.

The photos of the bombing in Syria reminded me of this. I will never forget Kent State, nor more recent events that defy any illusion that anything has changed.

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Arthur Brown 1968 “Fire”


I am the god of hell fire and I bring you:

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!
You fought hard and you saved and learned

but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind
Your tiny mind
You know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind.
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no
Oh no
Oh no
You gonna burn!

Fire
To destroy all you've done.
Fire
To end all you've become.
I'll feel your burn!

You've been living like a little girl
In the middle of your little world.
And your mind
Your tiny mind
You know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind
You're falling far too far behind.

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
You gonna burn, burn, burn
Fire
I'll take you to burn

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 12:33 PM

32. I too ... with great sorrow

I remember the shock, the horror, the disbelief while knowing it was so ...

... and I still wonder what happened to us, my generation, that we lost all the knowledge so hard gained, and retreated into the status quo, and helped create the monstrous system we have now?

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 01:48 PM

33. Always remember

Always.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 02:09 PM

35. Thank you Pat!

 

GREAT thread!!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #35)

Sun May 5, 2013, 03:04 PM

37. Thank you!

I like the thread, too. It's representative of why I continue to participate on this forum. I appreciate everyone's contributions.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2013, 03:17 PM

38. I always play Ohio!

Then I explain it to anyone not familiar with the song or context.

This is the NRA, in their mind.

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