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this is my state
i am mixed in my feelings
this place is at once the most beautiful and ugliest place there is
she is an enviromental dream being turned into a nightmare
she is the love of my youth
a place where the fish jumped and the animals ran
where you would hide in the sea oats in the summer to see the turtles make their yearly pilgrimage
we lived on the edge of the future and the past here
we are a troubled place
all the worlds ills are represented here
she is mine
my flowery lands
my florida
i love her
i hate her
i love her so
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Our Democratic Governors did the correct thing and tried to make life fair.
..And then the Monsters came....
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)from us by those idiots.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)..Florida was...ah ..usually ranked 6th in this and 5th in this and 4th in this..Etc.
Now it's 29th in this ..46th in this ..ect.
The sons-a-bitches ruined the state and people still vote for them..Rats.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Serious progressive leadership turned Florida into a great state
Reuben Askew
Bob Graham
Lawton Chiles
steve2470
(37,457 posts)There is much natural beauty here, once you get away from the strip malls and billboards. I can cope ok with the insects and the hellish summer heat. If the politics were considerably more liberal here, it would be a much better place but that won't happen any time soon.
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)I grew up on the gulf coast in the panhandle. I have watched it slowly being destroyed.
Damn, I could use a good mullet fry right now.
Menu:
Fried Mullet
Cheese Grits
Hush Puppies
And a really cold beer.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)the bone they usually throw away is awesome when fried bony but yum
the rest of that menu is good for me too
i love the panhandle i go up and pick blueberrys and crabapples around tallahassee
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Mullet with a #64 gang hook from the Miami canals, and loaded them into an ice chest. We got the duty of cleaning a few dozen when he arrived home! Great fried.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)there was a short lived seafood restaurant a few miles from my house - a family owned deal that purported to be from New England and they came down to open up and show us how to seafood. It was all fried clams and fish and stuff and wasn't bad except they didn't have hush puppies. My wife asked them why on earth they wouldn't have hush puppies and the lady said "we just can't get them to taste right".
We laughed and never went back. The place was closed a few months later.
If you wanna fry fish in Florida, we'll let ya. But you better show up with a goddamn hush puppy!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)served with grits and a pot of hot tea. Proper breakfast.
raccoon
(31,105 posts)ambition to retire there. Not any more. Nothing against FL, but my state is hot enough, and full of Republicans
enough, thank you. Gators too, but I don't mind them as much as the Republicans.
Warpy
(111,138 posts)It explains so much about how the state got that way.
I was actually born there. I will never live there if I can help it.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)the deep-frozen midwest, I was amazed and unduly excited by an orange tree growing outside our apartment's master bedroom window. Real oranges, only a little smaller than the supermarket kind, growing RIGHT THERE on a tree!! In JANUARY!!! Pretty cool.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Tallahassee, 1963. I grew up in Texas through my teen years and came back here in my early 20s.
I've lived in my current house for almost 26 years and have watched the orange groves right down the street get bulldozed in favor of subdivisions that I can't afford to live in (and, apparently, neither can the people who originally bought into them as a lot of once filled houses have For Sale signs in front of them.).
I love being able to play golf in December and I love Air Conditioning when I'm not playing golf.
Orange county voted blue last time around and I hope it does again. I'll do my part.
I get good concert tours come through and I'm only an hour and a half away from professional football and baseball and I don't care about basketball. There's a store that sells beer from all over the world and I have 2 great German restaurants nearby and tons of cuban restaurants and a good pizza place that delivers. For special occasions I can get a damn fine aged steak and a damn fine aged scotch at the same place.
My wife was born and raised here so we have plenty of family (so far - but it's dwindling) nearby. My Grandpa lives 45 minutes away so I get to see him a lot more than when I was kid and as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't get any better than that. My grandpa is my personal hero.
And there are enough wackjobs here to keep it interesting.
There's a lot of Florida that needs fixin but I like it enough I wanna stay and try.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)well said
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I just couldn't abandon this place.
So first up is get Rick Scott gone! What a crook!
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)return some day.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I live in central FL now - but I remember visiting Tallahassee when my grandparents lived there...There was a restaurant shaped like a hat. And I think the first Chinese food I ever had was at Lucy Ho's...certainly the first I remember...
They retired here to Central FL and I moved here in the mid 80s...
My parents met while they were going to FSU and my grandpa was getting his Masters there at the same time.
Some of my favorite Christmas memories are from visiting Grandma and Grandpa in Tallahassee.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)was more than a restaurant
lucy was a very accomplished tailor who made wedding dresses
very high status to have a lucy ho gown
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)both will bite you in the rear.
onethatcares
(16,161 posts)I moved here because I like the beauty of the sunset over the gulf of Mexico and the white sand beaches of the West Coast.
I am not a college grad, but at the time I got here, there were things I could do with my hands that allowed me to work and feel good about what I did, who I knew and where I lived.
Now it is a trap, at 60+ and not being as agile as I wish I could be, the jobs are not as easy to come by nor do they pay enough to retire.
My home has fallen in value but I bought at the right time and am not underwater.
I'm disgusted with what is called the Public Service Commission. It should be called the utility/insurance corporation lubrication committee.
I'm disgusted with my fellow Floridians that could elect a thief for governor and continue to support him(gauddamm pencil necked geek belongs in Gibsonton and not in Tally)
I'm disgusted with what they call our legislature. Nothing but a gladhanding bunch of backscratching thieves just dying to get to their next handout of our money.
I Love her though, and will work whatever I can to help her out.
Peace.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)lived in Nokomis for 80 something years but she and my grandpa (who died when I was really young so I barely remember him) were carnival people from wayyyyyyyyyyy back....She had friends in Gibsonton...I have heard from family that she was friends with one or two of the little people who were munchkins in Wizard of Oz but I don't if that had anything to do with Gibsonton.
Oh there is a grapefruit tree in Nokomis that my grandpa planted the day I was born. At least, it was still there the last time I drove by a few years ago. I love that tree but I don't much like grapefruit. My little brother got a tangerine tree. too bad I can't trade him lol. I guess it doesn't matter now since the property is out of the family now.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)a town formed by retired circus and carnival workers so as to have a place where THEY were not the odd ones
right outside of tampa
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I was so angry at Florida after the Selection. I wrote all the state agencies. Fumed at Jeb and Katherine Harris. Then I met someone who showed me the other side of the state. With its beautiful Gulf beaches and sunsets. Its unbelievable natural charms. I could see falling in love for life.
Tikki
(14,549 posts)many international expos/games that seem to most often happen in Florida.
The Tikkis
catzies
(8,093 posts)I totally relate to the Florida SwampG8r refers to in the original post, and to many of the replies.
It is mystical and mysterious, maddening and magical, and permanently captivating.
I was born in Miami right after the embargo with Cuba began, and lived there until the Mariel boatlifts in 1980.
There is a real Miami, and a Miami of both memory and mind, and all of them are worth visiting.
The rest of Florida is worth visiting too.
catzies
(8,093 posts)before they moved to LA and she became Exene Cervenka and he became Pee-Wee Herman. :-D
Tikki
(14,549 posts)Did you know Exene has a new advice column in the OC Weekly?
I have a feeling she is feeling better.
Tikki
Bosso 63
(992 posts)Gators are fine, hell cottonmouths and rattlers are even O.K. but the "new" snakes .....
Anyway,I'm not from Florida, but I have a long relationship with it. My grandfather and father retired there and my wife is a native. Florida is a mixed bag of both the good and bad of the U.S. plus an infusion of qualities you just can't find anywhere else, which made Travis McGee novels great. On the other hand there are the republicans and the snakes, or am I being redundant?
Little Star
(17,055 posts)I miss my daughter and my sister. Time for another trip to Florida!
Before Katrina, I spent a week at Indian Rocks Beach on the Gulf side. I loved it, which was a surprise to me because Im a big fan of the Atlantic Ocean. The water was so much warmer it was a pleasure to jump right in. I actually thought of maybe retiring near the Gulf. After Katrina, when I learned just how many oil drilling rigs are in Gulf of Mexico, I changed my mind.
I later spent a week on the Atlantic side in Satellite Beach where I mostly just stayed at the condo we had rented and enjoyed reading on the beach. It was heaven.
My sister and one of my daughters live in Port St. Lucie so Ive been there also.
My favorite part of Disney World was Epcot followed by Animal Kingdom.
Another place I liked was Busch Gardens even though I dont like amusement park rides at all. There were a lot of shows to see and things to do.
There are at least two scenic drives I want to make when I get down there again. The Florida Keys Scenic Highway and The Tamiami Trail Scenic Highway.
Then there is The National Parks Service/Florida that shows many other things to see:
http://www.nps.gov/state/fl/index.htm
Here is a link to The Official Tourism Website: http://www.visitflorida.com/
Its not very user friendly, they could have done a better job. But that takes away nothing from the fact that Sunshine State is well worth visiting.
Just for fun heres a list of some famous Floridians:
Julian Cannonball Adderley jazz saxophonist, Tampa
Pat Boone singer, Jacksonville
Fernando Bujones ballet dancer, Miami
Steve Carlton baseball player, Miami
Howie Dorough singer, Orlando
Fay Dunaway actress, Bascom
Stepin Fetchit comedian, Key West
Dwight Gooden baseball player, Tampa
Zora Neale Hurston writer, Eatonville
James Weldon Johnson author, educator, Jacksonville
Frances Langford singer, Lakeland
A. J. McLean singer, West Palm Beach
Butterfly McQueen actress, Tampa
Jim Morrison singer, Melbourne
Osceola Seminole Indian leader
Sidney Poitier actor, Miami
A. Philip Randolph labor leader, Crescent City
Janet Reno attorney general, Miami
David Robinson basketball, Key West
Joseph W. Stilwell army general, Palatka
Don Sutton baseball player, Pensacola
Norman E. Thargard astronaut
Ben Vereen actor, Miami
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)satellite beach right now and run a charity to try to save the jim morrison related properties in melbourne
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Comedian Carrot Top is from Winter Park
and Mr Rogers went to school here at Rollins College
Burt Reynolds went to FSU
And Designing Woman Delta Burke is from Orlando
We do, however, apologize for NSync. Although Justin Timberlake is always very entertaining on Saturday Night Live. Too bad he's from Tennessee. That guy has real talent. I'm just not a fan of boy bands.
Oh and Diana Canova was born in West Palm Beach. She was Corinne Tate on Soap. One of my daughter's middle names is partially based on Corinne because I had such a crush on her. Still do but she's married and and my wife probably wouldn't let me date her even if Diana was willing.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)scott thompson(carrot top) is from north cocoa he is enhancing by giving himself a better hometown
burt is from jupiter the town not the planet
and here is a funny one
my daughter is named jessica after the jessica character on soap
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I know he has (had? He may be full time in Vegas now) a home in Winter Park and I THOUGHT I heard he went to school at Winter Park High so I assumed he was from there - I never looked it up. I can say this though; he's a helluvva nice guy - my wife used to work in a news stand/gift shop at Orlando International airport and he came through her store several times in his comings and goings and he was always very sweet to her - signing autographs and chatting and never once acting like talking to a fan (and we are Carrot Top fans - saw his show at the Bob Carr one time and it was one of the funniest hours and a half I've ever experienced. Folks like to poke at him for his corny stuff on TV but his real show is hilarious...and not rated PG.) was a bother that he just wanted to get over with...
I can't say the same for James Marsters. (Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
oh and ain't Soap grand? I wonder if they know at least two people in the world are named after their show...
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)I grew up here. I lived on Marco Island before it became a Repuke Haven. I lived in Palm Beach County before the Butterfly Ballot and Hanging Chads. We used to travel to Disney World and Sea World and Weekie Wachee (spelling?). Florida was once a great state that has now been overtaken by religious zealots who have no idea how beautiful the Flower Girl truly is. I love the old Florida. The Florida of Lawton Chiles. The man who actually cared for this state. And our last great Governor
onethatcares
(16,161 posts)I miss Bob Graham too.
Citizens of the state first, governors second.
I think that was part of what anchored me here, that and the Evening Independent newspaper.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)some are even republicans
lou frye was a rep state senator who met my friend bob in 1974
he was a disabled vet and getting no help from the va
lou frye called the va and raised bloody hell til they stepped up
then he called fpl and the water company to explain how his friend bob needed lights and water to get his life back in order
frye never asked what party bob was just that he needed help and lou could give it
they were better men in those days
RZM
(8,556 posts)Been there too many times to count. I like it. Don't much care for the heat in the summer, but other than that it's great. Pretty scenery, lots of wonderful beaches. And I like that there are those little lizards running around everywhere
pronounced ann-olz
come in a variety of colors
some are city lizards and some are country lizards
when i was a kid we would use them for earrings tap their nose until they open their mouth and stick em on your earlobes
little guys will hold on for hours!
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I named him Pee Face because of an unfortunate accident.
Hey, he can leave any time he wants but he chose to stay so he gets a name.
And he's welcome to stay as long as he wants.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)spaghetti-head because of an accident
babydollhead
(2,231 posts)The year I turned 21, I moved from Pittsburgh to Gainesville.
There I found my other half, there i realized I am an artist
There my lover died
There his brother answered a sad phone call
There we fell in love
There we began our life
There I met my husband.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)It's been several years, though, since I was there. My wife's sister lives there, but we haven't been able to afford to visit, since my parents live in California and we make two trips a year there from MN.
It's an interesting state, but I tend to stick to places where I can fish.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)i love fishing the ocean
nothing like it
shanti
(21,675 posts)i've only been once, and never stepped out of the airport coming back from a trip to jamaica. miami customs SUCKS, i couldn't believe the line! i considered retiring there at one time, but quickly changed my mind after realizing how right wing it was, and we won't even mention the hurricanes, gators and snakes! the beaches are lovely, but we have beaches over on the west coast too! can't really swim in them here, but they are just as beautiful!
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)It's my home again after a short leave.
Sarasota is busy at times but not as bad as Miami.
I hope not to leave her again.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)its in the credits on a map
love the sarasota area
the ringling is so worth the trip
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I found Florida to be an interesting place. They say "the further south you go in Florida, the further north you get." I find that to be at least somewhat true. Tallahassee is just a few miles from Georgia, and I saw little difference between the socio-cultural/geographical/climatological setting of Tallahassee and southern Georgia or Alabama. However, going to Orlando or even Gainesville seemed a lot more "northern" in feel (the climate, of course, was not very northern!) I found that life in my part of northern Florida was much slower, to my perception, than SW Missouri is. Though I am back in Missouri now, and much of what I experienced in Florida is happily behind me now, there is also much that I miss. I miss the beautiful Spanish-moss-draped old live oaks, the beautiful flowers and the cultural diversity of the Tallahassee area.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Only the "Central Valley" part of California.
There were things that I liked about the state, but there were things that I wasn't that into.
The Keys were very nice, though.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)My parents moved me there when I was 5 years old. I lived there most of my life until I moved to North Georgia in 1989. And that was the best move I have made. I lived in the Miami area and I was sick of the heat, bugs and drug use,
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, overt racists when I lived there as a kid in 1958 in Jacksonville Beach.
I will never forget a bunch of white kids on the school bus I was riding lean out of their windows to spit at an old black man. Or, the kindly looking gray haired, bespectacled , teacher telling the class, "We aren't going to allow niggers in this school, ever."
mcar
(42,278 posts)Loved the small town living, the beaches, the natural beauty and the people.
The Republicans have turned this state into a cesspool. My SO is a public school teacher with 8 years left to retire. We're trying to hold out and hope there's a bit of pension there for him, then we are out of here. It's a crying shame what's been done here but I don't know if it'll ever come back. Too many crazies have taken over.
How do you know Florida is the feminine gender?
Just look at the shape of it.
Home of the hanging chads?
I'm done for now.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)only a woman can stay focused that long
tawadi
(2,110 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)She and her husband are such native New Yorkers (and provincials to boot) that I just don't' know how they will adjust. They got a nice little house at the end of a quiet cul de sac and the Bro in law is antsy as all get out. He's used to stoop socializing, not getting in a car and going someplace where people are.
I was only there once with DH on a business trip. I was 7 months pregnant. We went to Disney World and some hot dog made me sick to my stomach. I had fun up until that point though.
MY parents had gone there for their honeymoon (Cypress Gardens) back in 1947. We have some beautiful pictures from that trip.
I want to go back again and visit the keys.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)now legoland!
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)So I love that aspect of Florida. Everything outside of Fantasyland, not so much.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I prefer the colder weather of the Northwest. Nothing against the tropics. They just aren't for me. I was there once during hurricane season and caught the edge of one. Scary. I did enjoy the beach and some of the attractions of going into the glades and I wish I could have made it to the Keys. However, I'm a mountain loving person and you don't seem to have any. Nothing against you. It's just not for me, but I do remember it being a beautiful state back then.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)and I can say I do miss that part of other places. Hills are generally more interesting than flat is. Lake county in mid/north/central FLorida has some hills though. Nothing like North Carolina or Kentucky or some place with actual mountains but still, a lot hillier than south florida.
But those places never had Six Gun Territory.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)at 6 gun territory
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)That is freakin COOL! He was another big part of my childhood.
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)Like when there's a story like "Man Impregnates Non-Human Mammal." Someone inevitably posts "Must be Florida."
The inevitable flamewar always cracks me up.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)do their states have anything like this?
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/archives.htm
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Orlando
Miami Beach
Jeb Bush
South Beach
Palm Beach
La Cage Aux Folle and The Birdcage
Oil
Cuban refugees
Disney World
Year 2000 voting debacle
Chads
Republican....no, wait....Democratic
clyrc
(2,299 posts)I lived there for 4 years, and I go back there most summers because my husband's family lives there. I love the ocean, St. Augustine, Gainesville, Tampa and most of the food. Other than that, the politics drive me insane and I never really got along with most of the people. When I visit my in-laws, I usually get up early and sit on the porch on the bench swing, watch the birds, and wonder why I recognize that the area is beautiful, but I've never felt at home there.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)If ya got no heart here then it's no use trying to force it. It's nice you visit for your husband and I hope he appreciates that but if you aren't feeling it you aren't feeling it. Nobody should hold it against ya. I hope I'm not part of the reason - I drive like an asshole sometimes.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I'll try to behave....I have been getting a lot of wifely punch in the shoulder therapy to tone down my aggressive driving.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)I95 from west palm to miami
you will become a safe driver in her eyes
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I periodically have to drive as far as Miramar for work and that is NOT a highway I want to drive with her in the car.
I once "got" to make the whole circle starting from Orlando, down to Miami, across 75 to Naples and up to Ft Myers and then back home to Orlando. Luckily I didn't have to do it all in one day. But man it gets DARK down there running across the everglades....
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)i can get you to florida city from 45th street inWPB in 2 1/2 hrs
and that will make her never say another word about your driving
trust me
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Because Georgia sucks.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I've spent some time in Florida, although I haven't been down there in several years. My grandparents used to live there in Lakeland, and my brother and sister-in-law live in the middle somewhere. I remember kind of liking Florida when I was a kid. I had an aunt who lived in Bradenton, and we visited when I was five or six. Wasn't there something about Barnum & Bailey down there? I have memories of elephants and circus carts.
I liked the Florida beaches and the warm water.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)divided into 2 touring units
one red one blue
they winter in sarasota and open the circus season with both troops performing
if you love the circus it is a must go to event
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)shrimp festival, tourist centered downtown cobbled brick streets and is the best kept secret at the northeast tip of the state. The county, Nassau, however, is solid RED, politically. That's a shame for such a beautiful area.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)We live in South AL, but often visit a lake near Alford, FL - about 50 miles north of Panama City - with my in-laws. Beautiful part of the Country, and the folks there are the very definition of southern hospitality - even though many of them are as red as can be. And my K-4 son loves Animal Planet's "Gator Boys". He now aspires to wrestle gators for a living.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)Looking forward to leaving someday. We elect some really bad politicians, local, state, and federal. I have one kid with one year left in public education system here at a State university. She is getting a pretty good education, but only because I moved into the best school district I could afford, and she is naturally inclined to high levels of achievement. She is heading somewhere north for her MFA, I am not far behind.
I love the environment here and have made a living protecting it. The bonehead politicians we have elected now have their hearts set on undoing that. Enough is enough.
Giantsfootball10
(74 posts)I have lived here since 2000. Lets get Democrats in Tally PLEASE...