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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:24 AM Jun 2013

The Dark Side of Liberation (investigation into widespread rape by American soldiers in France)

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This isn’t the “greatest generation” as it has come to be depicted in popular histories. But in “What Soldiers Do: Sex and the American G.I. in World War II France,” the historian Mary Louise Roberts draws on French archives, American military records, wartime propaganda and other sources to advance a provocative argument: The liberation of France was “sold” to soldiers not as a battle for freedom but as an erotic adventure among oversexed Frenchwomen, stirring up a “tsunami of male lust” that a battered and mistrustful population often saw as a second assault on its sovereignty and dignity.

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Sex was certainly on the liberators’ minds. The book cites military propaganda and press accounts depicting France as “a tremendous brothel inhabited by 40 million hedonists,” as Life magazine put it. (Sample sentences from a French phrase guide in the newspaper Stars and Stripes: “You are very pretty” and “Are your parents at home?”)

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In France, Ms. Roberts also found a desperate letter from the mayor of Le Havre in August 1945 urging American commanders to set up brothels outside the city, to halt the “scenes contrary to decency” that overran the streets, day and night. They refused, partly, Ms. Roberts argues, out of concern that condoning prostitution would look bad to “American mothers and sweethearts,” as one soldier put it.

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Ms. Roberts said the book has attracted strong interest from French publishers, where willingness to explore the darker side of liberation jostles with a lingering fear of seeming ungrateful. At home, she insisted, her goal is not “to sour the story of Normandy.”

“I truly believe what we did there was amazing,” she said. “But I’m interested in providing a richer and more realistic picture.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/books/rape-by-american-soldiers-in-world-war-ii-france.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Quite a revealing article, the reviewer references other works which shed more light on this subject.
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The Dark Side of Liberation (investigation into widespread rape by American soldiers in France) (Original Post) redqueen Jun 2013 OP
Anything with the words "tsunami of male lust" should likely... Pelican Jun 2013 #1
really? why? niyad Jun 2013 #2
And? Did that dose of salt do anything to change your opinion on the history? redqueen Jun 2013 #3
All of this pales in comparison to what happened in the east RZM Jun 2013 #4
Oh, that's all right, then. n/t malthaussen Jun 2013 #7
Heard this author on NPR yesterday. DirkGently Jun 2013 #5
We still have a lot of trouble embracing any truths that run counter to many cultural narratives. redqueen Jun 2013 #6
 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
1. Anything with the words "tsunami of male lust" should likely...
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:28 AM
Jun 2013

... be taken with a monstrous grain of salt.

niyad

(113,085 posts)
2. really? why?
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:32 AM
Jun 2013

Sex was certainly on the liberators’ minds. The book cites military propaganda and press accounts depicting France as “a tremendous brothel inhabited by 40 million hedonists,” as Life magazine put it.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. And? Did that dose of salt do anything to change your opinion on the history?
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jun 2013

That one line of purplish prose didn't seem have much of an effect on the facts, for me anyway.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. All of this pales in comparison to what happened in the east
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jun 2013

The Red Army committed millions of rapes in the last phase of the war and not just in Germany either.

I'm also skeptical of the argument that the US war effort was 'sold' this way. That might have been an element of the big picture, but probably a fairly small one.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. Heard this author on NPR yesterday.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jun 2013

She mentioned growing up in a highly pro-military, "patriotic" family. This is not some wild-eyed smear campaign. It's not even surprising, particularly. Horrible, but not surprising. It's long been known that VD was epidemic in the European theater.

We still have a lot of trouble embracing any truths that run counter to the cultural imperative of supporting war and painting our victories (and losses) as simple morality plays in which we were the good guys.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. We still have a lot of trouble embracing any truths that run counter to many cultural narratives.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jun 2013

But I see that this is changing, not just here but around the world. It's about time, really.

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