Climate Crocks: Proof Greenland has melted and refroze MANY times...

[Junkdrawer]

WAY more than anyone expected:

Money Quotes at the 17:00 minute mark

http://climatecrocks.com/2013/06/02/weekend-wonk-bonus-sobering-sediments-from-lake-e/comment-page-1

Also on Skeptical Science:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/lake-elgygytgyn-video.html

[ThoughtCriminal]

1. The quotes

“..Greenland Ice sheet has come and gone much more frequently than
any of us had imagined.”

“..exteme warmth many times throughout the last few million years”

“..It may be much easier to get rid of sea ice than we thought before.”

[Junkdrawer]

2. Last year, the people over at Neven's blog found that when the Arctic ice sheet breaks up....

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sufficiently, the pieces acts as sail-equipped-spoons stirring up the saline layers. The ice is melted from above AND eaten from below.

On edit: Arctic ice in title

[RobertEarl]

3. Found an Artic Sea Temperature Map

Here is the link: I broke it up from being hot: remove space after the //

http:// weather.gc.ca/data/analysis/351_50.gif

It is hard to read. I always look at Alaska to get my bearings. Notice that the sea temps flowing past Greenland are warmer than usual. As this link shows:

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_daily.php?plot=ssa&inv=0&t=cur

[Junkdrawer]

5. Check Neven's latest post:

If this is real...

As usual, it's all about the if. Allow me to explain what this is about:

In the first Arctic Sea Ice update of the 2013 melting season that was posted a couple of days ago, I announced that a cyclone was forecasted to move over the Arctic Basin and stay there for a while. It's been there for a couple of days now as can be seen on this animation of Danish Meteorological Institute SLP images:

....

http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2013/05/if-this-is-real.html

[RobertEarl]

8. I saw that

Somewhere at this link

http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/

There was an Arctic circle wide cyclone circulation around the N. Pole. And it was releasing over Canada and flowing down into the US. And that cold air is behind the cold front now causing the tornadoes.

When you overlay it on the Arctic sea temp map, you can see that over the Atlantic the warm water is flowing in the same direction as the winds. Notice that waters around Alaska are colder than the water over the pole, in Siberia.

[Junkdrawer]

11. Someone needs to do a graph of the loss of sea ice vs the loss of our civil liberties....

Offhand, I see a strong correlation

[Junkdrawer]

12. Interesting animation from over at Neven's blog today:

http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2013/05/if-this-is-real/comments/page/2/#comments

[Downwinder]

4. Without a correlation to life forms does this say

anything toward the continued existence of humans on this planet?

[Junkdrawer]

6. Kinda depends....

All hands on deck emergency

---- or -----

business as usual

---- or -----

business worse than usual <---- you are here

[Downwinder]

7. I've had my round of pleasure.

You folks deal with it.

[RobertEarl]

9. We are, at this point, mere obeservers, eh?

Observers of the good, the bad, and the ugly.

But try to be good?

[Downwinder]

10. At this point I am just a tourist.

i try to avoid doing any harm. I never intended to live past the turn of the century and am not sure how that happened.