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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:23 PM Jun 2013

IRS spent $50 million on conferences between 2010 and 2012.



A government watchdog has found that the Internal Revenue Service spent about $50 million to hold at least 220 conferences for employees between 2010 and 2012, a House committee said Sunday.

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The conference spending included $4 million for an August 2010 gathering in Anaheim, Calif., for which the agency did not negotiate lower room rates, even though that is standard government practice, according to a statement by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Instead, some of the 2,600 attendees received benefits, including baseball tickets and stays in presidential suites that normally cost $1,500 to $3,500 per night. In addition, 15 outside speakers were paid a total of $135,000 in fees, with one paid $17,000 to talk about “leadership through art,” the House committee said.

The report by the Treasury Department’s inspector general, set to be released Tuesday, comes as the IRS already is facing bipartisan criticism after agency officials disclosed they had targeted tea party and other conservative groups.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/house-panel-treasury-investigators-find-irs-spent-50m-for-220-conferences-from-2010-to-2012/2013/06/02/2ab6e3ee-cbe7-11e2-8573-3baeea6a2647_story.html
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IRS spent $50 million on conferences between 2010 and 2012. (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
This is why we can't have nice things. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #1
So why exactly should we be paying for IRS employees to go to baseball games? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #2
anyone who has ever worked for state or federal gov't cali Jun 2013 #3
This is 2013. former9thward Jun 2013 #4
so essentially they are paid vacations? Skittles Jun 2013 #5
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #15
and Senator McCain flies half way B Calm Jun 2013 #6
It's pretty much a vacation and party madville Jun 2013 #7
and this is just the IRS cali Jun 2013 #8
"billions and billions on this shit every year" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #9
I was including travel expenses but you're right sweetums, cali Jun 2013 #12
Okay, your source was Darrel Issa then. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #13
no genius, it's not. cali Jun 2013 #16
You cited Darrell Issa's stats for your contention that "billions and billions" geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17
and a Bush appointee was in charge n/t malaise Jun 2013 #10
Why ProSense Jun 2013 #11
Hey, the OP and Darrell Issa see this as a scandal. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #14
This is scandalous Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #18

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. So why exactly should we be paying for IRS employees to go to baseball games?
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jun 2013

No more conferences. No more hotels. No more baseball games.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. anyone who has ever worked for state or federal gov't
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jun 2013

or a gov't mandated program contracted out to a non-profit, knows that there are ridiculous numbers of stupid conferences most held at expensive venues.

It's fucked up.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
4. This is 2013.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jun 2013

We can do teleconferencing. Save on the hotels, transportation and other stuff. Anyone who says there is no waste in government has never worked for the government. I worked for 14 years for state government. I did not learn a thing at any conference I went to and no one else did that I knew.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. +1
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jun 2013

I can also attest that it can be very hard to get away from the habit of spending 'other people's money' once you get addicted to it...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. and this is just the IRS
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jun 2013

the fed gov't spends billions and billions on this shit every year. really.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. "billions and billions on this shit every year"
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jun 2013

Do you have a source for this claim, outside of the Tea Party Express and/or your own ass?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. I was including travel expenses but you're right sweetums,
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jun 2013

the conferences themselves last year only amounted to a mere 268 million last year and non DoD travel spending was a mere 5 billion.

http://www.federaltimes.com/article/20130227/TRAVEL02/302270003/Report-Agencies-spent-268-million-conferences-last-year

and then there's shit like this:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/park-service-spending-millions-conferences-while-r/nXzS4/

I'm glad that the administration has ordered agencies to cut back.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Okay, your source was Darrel Issa then.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jun 2013
Agencies hosted or attended 767 large conferences at a cost of $268 million last year, according to new federal data released Wednesday by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

...

The committee, chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., said in a Feb. 27 release that total federal travel last year cost $14.8 billion, citing Office of Management and Budget figures.

Travel for non-Defense agencies nearly doubled — from $3 billion to $5.8 billion — in the period from 2001 to 2012, while Defense Department travel increased during that period by roughly 50 percent, from $6 billion to $9 billion, the committee said.

The committee plans to hold a hearing Wednesday on waste and mismanagement in federal travel spending.


Glad to see you and Mr. Grand Theft Auto are on the same wavelength. The fact that federal employees travel for their jobs is indeed a scandal, as are conferences to familiarize the stakeholders re: ACA implementation. You and Rep. Issa are correct that such spending is wasteful and evidence of big government run amok.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. You cited Darrell Issa's stats for your contention that "billions and billions"
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jun 2013

are wasted every year on federal travel.

So, you are essentially making Issa's argument that it's a waste of taxpayer money for federal employees to travel as part of their job.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. Why
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

"IRS spent $50 million on conferences between 2010 and 2012."

...exactly do Republicans suddenly give a shit? They should have reported this last year when the Bush appointed IRS commissioner was still on the job.

Republicans have no problem wasting taxpayer dollars. They spent $55 million on votes to repeal Obamacare.

Four Better Ways To Spend The $55 Million Wasted On Votes To Repeal The Affordable Care Act
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/15/2016821/affordable-care-act-repeal-taxpayer-money/

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
18. This is scandalous
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jun 2013

More so than the fact that someone ate my lunch today.

What the fuck am I going to eat for lunch now? It's raining out and I don't want to go out in the rain to get lunch.

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