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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:54 AM Jun 2013

Famed storm chaser killed by multi-vortex Oklahoma tornado

Famed storm chaser Tim Samaras, along with his son Paul and fellow storm chaser Carl Young, were killed on Friday when a multi-vortex tornado hit El Reno, Oklahoma, family members revealed Sunday.

Samaras, featured by Discovery Channel’s “Storm Chasers,” appeared on MSNBC’s “The Cycle” just hours before losing his life as tornadoes menaced the Oklahoma City area for the second time in recent weeks. “The ingredients are coming together for a pretty volatile day,” he said.

Ten people were killed Friday as thousands of Oklahomans tried to flee the storms in their vehicles, packing the highways and turning them into parking lots as dark clouds gathered overhead. A rare multi-vortex EF-3 tornado that hit the El Reno area with winds up to 165 miles per hour reportedly killed Young and Samaras.

Several others who died that night were stuck in traffic along Interstate 40 when their vehicles were sucked up into a funnel cloud. Another storm chasing crew with The Weather Channel narrowly escaped with their lives after a specially retrofitted SUV was tossed roughly 200 feet, The Associated Press reported.



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/02/famed-storm-chaser-killed-by-multi-vortex-oklahoma-tornado/
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Famed storm chaser killed by multi-vortex Oklahoma tornado (Original Post) octoberlib Jun 2013 OP
Wow, fleeing a tornado in a car is not a good idea fasttense Jun 2013 #1
I grew up in the Kansas City area and octoberlib Jun 2013 #6
I read elsewhere the WC van was tossed 200 yards, not feet. nt magical thyme Jun 2013 #2
It was probably yards. octoberlib Jun 2013 #8
sometimes you find what you're looking for Baclava Jun 2013 #3
This is not the one the guys died in. The people in that vehicle survived. Here is Tim's truck uppityperson Jun 2013 #9
I want to see the footage these guys shot. I think they would want that as well. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #4
MSNBC Is Showing It... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #5
Um. These dudes DIED. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #7
The Weather Channel Guys Did Survive... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #11
I realize that. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #14
No Problem... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #16
I wonder if this is it? AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #13
no, that was shot from this vehicle PD Turk Jun 2013 #17
Such sad news Tree-Hugger Jun 2013 #10
Thank you for this post. nt redqueen Jun 2013 #19
Having watched him on "Storm Chasers" - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #12
It's such dangerous work. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #15
Well, that's what happens when you drive into a tornado. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #18
If what I've been reading is correct PD Turk Jun 2013 #20
Yikes! My apologies and RIP for the deceased.... cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #21
A lot of pro spotters and chasers PD Turk Jun 2013 #24
Not northeast, a southeast turn RobertEarl Jun 2013 #22
Hmm PD Turk Jun 2013 #23
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
1. Wow, fleeing a tornado in a car is not a good idea
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 06:27 AM
Jun 2013

These people should have nearby shelters, not be on the road.

About 15 years ago, a tornado threatened DC. I was going home and could see the tornado heading for a fully packed bridge. The bridge was a parking lot. I turned back and sought shelter instead of trying to cross. Luckily the tornado didn't hit the bridge. I could understand why people in DC didn't know how to respond to a tornado. They don't get them very often. But Oklahoma gets them regularly. They are in the heart of tornado alley and April, May and June is the most likely time of year for them.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
6. I grew up in the Kansas City area and
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jun 2013

my biggest fear was getting stuck in rush hour and having a tornado barreling toward me. The last place I'd want to be is in a car.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. It was probably yards.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jun 2013

I thought I heard on the news that their vehicle got picked up by the tornado about 30 - 50 feet.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. This is not the one the guys died in. The people in that vehicle survived. Here is Tim's truck
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jun 2013

The ones who died were in a different vehicle, were a different group. This is their truck.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
5. MSNBC Is Showing It...
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 08:04 AM
Jun 2013

...cameras were rolling throughout the whole thing...fascinating and scary to watch. These dudes are lucky to be alive...and they know it.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
11. The Weather Channel Guys Did Survive...
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jun 2013

Samaras and his crew that died worked for the Discovery Channel.

The guy in that crushed Weather Channel vehicle was on MSNBC this morning...one of the people in the car is still in the hospital with some broken bones but overall they were lucky to walk away...

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
14. I realize that.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 12:44 PM
Jun 2013

The OP is about the guys who died. So I assumed the film referred to would be theirs, since the reply was in response to the OP.

Sorry for the confusion.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
17. no, that was shot from this vehicle
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

The TIV2, it's a specially designed and armored vehicle for close in work with tornadoes. The chasers that died were in a regular type car

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
10. Such sad news
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

Tim Samaras was not some kid looking for a thrill and a cool video to sell. He was an engineer and a meteorologist. He did a ton of work studying various parts of storms in order to better understand why some storms produce tornadoes and why some don't and he did extensive research on lighting. His work is very highly regarding among weather scientists. His is the work that saves lives through better understand of storm formation and behavior to the ability to increase warning times. He was one of the most cautious storm chasers out there, always concerned for the safety of others. He had a reputation for being an extremely kind man. His son was talented as well. Carl Young, his long time chasing and research partner, has also done a lot of valuable work. These men contributed a lot to science and their work has and will continue to save lives. It's a heartbreaking loss.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/tornado-death-toll-includes-veteran-storm-chaser-son-19310012

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
12. Having watched him on "Storm Chasers" -
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jun 2013

I can say he was one of the more cautious, thoughtful chasers. His work involved trying to get data censors up into tornados -- much like in "Twister". He was very careful when approaching a storm, and was not one to take chances or engage in a chase simply to get footage. I was shocked and saddened to see he and his team were victims of that storm.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
15. It's such dangerous work.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jun 2013

I'm hoping we can find other ways to get info on these storms without risking death by driving too close to them. I know a friend I went to college with studied meteorology and he said they can fly above the storms and more safely study them.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
18. Well, that's what happens when you drive into a tornado.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jun 2013

Ok, I'll be fair, I don't know that this guy actually drove into a tornado....but the guys in that Weather Channel video actually DRIVE TOWARD THE TORNADO, you can see it in the video. There is no need to have these guys this close to tornados. It doesn't give the story any more credibility to have them driving into a tornado when they coudl be watching it from 1/4 mile away.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
20. If what I've been reading is correct
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jun 2013

If what I've been reading is correct, they were caught in a traffic jam and couldn't get away. Apparently, one of the TV stations in OKC gave out the bad advice for the public to get in their vehicles and flee the tornado, and a lot of roads got jammed up. The tornado was a very large, rain wrapped, multi-vortex "wobbler" that caught a lot of chasers off guard. It was hard to see it coming and it made a sharp unexpected turn to the northeast.... just bad luck and a tragic turn of events

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
21. Yikes! My apologies and RIP for the deceased....
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:15 PM
Jun 2013

if my assumption was incorrect.

I just got really upset seeing the Weather Channel footage on Saturday morning showing the guys actually driving into the tornado, and their cursing and yelling for dramatic effect, and I feel like it's irresponsible for them to be glorifying this hobby for ratings when hundreds of people are dying every year.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
24. A lot of pro spotters and chasers
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 11:51 PM
Jun 2013

A lot of pro spotters and chasers got caught of guard by this one. The tornado was actually very wide and hanging a couple hundred feet off the ground and it was spitting erratic multiple vortices to the ground. At times it was wrapped by a wide rotating rain curtain. a lot of the spotters actually wound up underneath the tornado inadvertently. In a lot of the videos, the way to tell the pros from the amateurs is, the pros realize they screwed up and they're hauling ass out of there while the amateurs are parked on the edge of the road filming the vortices not realizing they are actually in the tornado.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. Not northeast, a southeast turn
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jun 2013

99 out of 100 tornadoes move to the north and east. Being to the south east of a storm is the best place to observe. This storm turned to the southeast and caught them. They were expecting it to go north.

Here is my theory on tornado setup

http://www.democraticunderground.com/122818972

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
23. Hmm
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jun 2013

Here's the track on the storm, I was getting the impression they were over in the area where the tornado went after it made the turn to the northeast after it had been tracking east for a while.



either way, it was a tragic turn of events

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