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Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:27 PM Jun 2013

Bill would make annoying a cop a crime

ALBANY, N.Y. (WIVB) - A bill currently making its way through the State Legislature would make it a crime to annoy a police officer, a move that could have far reaching consequences.

The State Senate passed the bill Wednesday that makes it felony to "harass, annoy, threaten or alarm" an on duty police officer by subjecting them to any physical contact.

A press release from the NYS Senate originally stated, "The bill (S.2402), sponsored by Senator Joe Griffo (R-C-I, Rome) would make it a felony to harass, annoy, or threaten a police officer while on duty." However, as the bill is written, a person would be guilty of aggravated harassment of a police officer if he or she subjected that officer to physical contact with the intent to "harass, annoy, threaten or alarm" that officer.
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/new_york/bill-would-make-annoying-a-cop-a-crime

"At a time when shocking incidents of disrespect and outright confrontation are at an all-time high, the men and women who patrol the streets of our cities deserve every possible protection we can offer them," Griffo stated.

The bill establishes this crime as a Class E Felony, punishable by up to four years in prison.
http://www.news10.com/story/22512179/bill-cracks-down-on-police-harassment

Oh, this will end well.

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Bill would make annoying a cop a crime (Original Post) Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2013 OP
Oh good lord! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #1
Well, Bill can go fuck himself. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #2
I went there, too. LisaLynne Jun 2013 #14
Me three. Too phunny. DCKit Jun 2013 #31
Threaten and harass MAY pass legal muster, elleng Jun 2013 #3
Why not? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #36
'Vagueness,' thus not reasonably understandable and enforceable. elleng Jun 2013 #40
It's unconstitutionally vague. Bake Jun 2013 #46
Considering the flurry of Supreme Decisions upholding the power to enforce vague Savannahmann Jun 2013 #47
That is one stupid fucking bill MrScorpio Jun 2013 #4
Just what society needs BainsBane Jun 2013 #5
"This is Wiggum reporting a 318 -- Waking an Officer." dogknob Jun 2013 #6
I thought any unwanted physical contact constituted battery. bluedigger Jun 2013 #7
good stuff newmember Jun 2013 #8
Would love to see which lobbyists have been visiting this guy. This has to be supported diabeticman Jun 2013 #9
I would totally love a bill that makes annoying me a crime. Brickbat Jun 2013 #10
LOL- Instant thread winner, methinks - nt CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #28
More absurdity. Holy shit. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #11
fortunately no democrat will be stupid enough to vote for this gestapo enabling bill eh? nt msongs Jun 2013 #12
Of course not. Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #20
Heavens NO. sibelian Jun 2013 #33
Make de jure what is already de facto Fumesucker Jun 2013 #13
Pretty much... dogknob Jun 2013 #15
That's a bit of advice that can't be repeated often enough. Morning Dew Jun 2013 #45
Just go with it. Fascism is painless. It brings on many changes. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #16
Through early morning light I see Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #22
OT, but I would kill to have that button. Classic! - n/t CharlesInCharge Jun 2013 #29
Jesus... WillyT Jun 2013 #17
I'm seriously looking into leaving this country. Th1onein Jun 2013 #18
Some cops already do that and serve as judge, jury and executioners. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #19
Had enough yet? nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #21
Creeping Fascism MoreGOPoop Jun 2013 #23
Same Should Apply to the Police in Dealing with Public LarryNM Jun 2013 #24
Define "Annoy" KinMd Jun 2013 #25
the proposed crime would require "physical contact" KurtNYC Jun 2013 #49
Wouldn't it be battery already? FarCenter Jun 2013 #53
I wonder if cell phone cams are considered annoying? defacto7 Jun 2013 #26
So ANY cop can say you pushed them Politicalboi Jun 2013 #27
"Is video taping them harassment too?" Iggo Jun 2013 #39
fascism is coming to america HiPointDem Jun 2013 #30
A felony, huh? LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #32
Gasp! Cops have to deal with NEGATIVE EMOTIONS? sibelian Jun 2013 #34
How about making a cop annoying you a crime? badtoworse Jun 2013 #35
The cop lovers here and out in the RW Savannahmann Jun 2013 #37
Bill is an ass. Iggo Jun 2013 #38
We are deep in the rabbit hole. marmar Jun 2013 #41
And cops wonder why they're so despised? premium Jun 2013 #42
Too much authority!!! Emelina Jun 2013 #43
Does anyone here think the Occupy movement might annoy cops? nt stillwaiting Jun 2013 #44
Funny. I always thought it was just stupidity. MineralMan Jun 2013 #48
We'll all be in jail, then. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #50
What ever you do, donut annoy a cop. longship Jun 2013 #51
! Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2013 #52
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. Oh good lord!
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jun 2013

Sadly, this frankly terrifying issue will be swamped by tides of posts about hookers and hecklers and handguns. So, accept my meager K&R in an attempt to keep it floating

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
36. Why not?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 08:16 AM
Jun 2013

Why wouldn't it pass muster. All the prosecutor has to say is that by annoying the officer, you are taking him from duties that protect the citizenry, and whamo you're in jail for four long years. The courts haven't yet put a limit on the cops that hasn't been so loosened over the years that this is almost a crime now.

Cops have become the royalty of the modern ear. They can do no wrong, they are above reproach, and how dare you speak ill of the wonderful folks they are.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
46. It's unconstitutionally vague.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jun 2013

What annoys one officer might not annoy another, so the citizen has no way to know what behavior is prohibited.

It's just that simple.



Bake

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
47. Considering the flurry of Supreme Decisions upholding the power to enforce vague
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

I'm not sure that we can count on the court.

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
5. Just what society needs
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jun 2013

More power for the police

There is already a guy facing 50 years for videotaping cops beating the shit out of someone.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
9. Would love to see which lobbyists have been visiting this guy. This has to be supported
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jun 2013

IF NOT WRITTEN by the for profit prison system.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
15. Pretty much...
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

NEVER talk to the police. Never... unless you are looking for a date with one of them.

Nothing good can result from it. Either nothing or something bad will happen.

Never. Ever.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
22. Through early morning light I see
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jun 2013

arrests for asking questions.

My sister-in-law was pulled over once for "slightly" exceeding the posted speed limit. She had nearly talked her way out of the ticket; when the officers attention was drawn to her denim vest covered with vintage pin on buttons. The one on her collar read "Support your local Police. Beat yourself up". She paid over two hundred dollars for collecting buttons (via speeding ticket).

If this law had been on the books, she could have spent time in jail for a button.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
18. I'm seriously looking into leaving this country.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jun 2013

Verizon giving the NSA all of my phone call content, and now this kind of bullshit. I am sick of it.

LarryNM

(493 posts)
24. Same Should Apply to the Police in Dealing with Public
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:31 AM
Jun 2013

If the law doesn't do this, then the citizens need to take enforcement action on their own.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
26. I wonder if cell phone cams are considered annoying?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:27 AM
Jun 2013

I'm sure they will stretch it a little to make it so.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. So ANY cop can say you pushed them
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:35 AM
Jun 2013

And you may have, but not on purpose. So going to jail is the punishment. If they are so concerned about the safety of cops, they should work toward a gun safe America, and help other states that are stuck on stupid. Maybe pay the cops more and have more training. This is so wrong. Is video taping them harassment too?

LuvNewcastle

(16,838 posts)
32. A felony, huh?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:14 AM
Jun 2013

Everything we do annoys cops. They think the only things we should be allowed to do are go to work or school and go home. Anything else is too much for them to handle. They're perpetually annoyed, and they're always looking for someone to take out their frustrations on.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
42. And cops wonder why they're so despised?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jun 2013

Here's a perfect example of it, you just know that NY cops are all for this bill.

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