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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:26 AM Jun 2013

Dept. of Homeland Security: Laptops, Phones Can Be Searched Based on Hunches

WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — U.S. border agents should continue to be allowed to search a traveler’s laptop, cellphone or other electronic device and keep copies of any data on them based on no more than a hunch, according to an internal Homeland Security Department study. It contends limiting such searches would prevent the U.S. from detecting child pornographers or terrorists and expose the government to lawsuits.

The 23-page report, obtained by The Associated Press and the American Civil Liberties Union under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, provides a rare glimpse of the Obama administration’s thinking on the long-standing but controversial practice of border agents and immigration officers searching and in some cases holding for weeks or months the digital devices of anyone trying to enter the U.S.

Since his election, President Barack Obama has taken an expansive view of legal authorities in the name of national security, asserting that he can order the deaths of U.S. citizens abroad who are suspected of terrorism without involvement by courts, investigate reporters as criminals and — in this case — read and copy the contents of computers carried by U.S. travelers without a good reason to suspect wrongdoing.

The DHS study, dated December 2011, said the border searches do not violate the First or Fourth amendments, which prohibit restrictions on speech and unreasonable searches and seizures. It specifically objected to a tougher standard in a 1986 government policy that allowed for only cursory review of a traveler’s documents.

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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/05/dept-of-homeland-security-laptops-phones-can-be-searched-based-on-hunches/

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Dept. of Homeland Security: Laptops, Phones Can Be Searched Based on Hunches (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2013 OP
Had enough yet? nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #1
More than plenty, thanks. appal_jack Jun 2013 #3
You've got to be kidding me... DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #2
The hopey-changey thing is SOOOOOO not working for me. kath Jun 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jun 2013 #5
Planting evidence is difficult, right? Kurovski Jun 2013 #13
Some Much Needed Transparency pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #6
I Don't Understand Court Rulings DallasNE Jun 2013 #7
I live in a Constitution Free Zone state dmr Jun 2013 #8
Me too, i think I'll move to a fracking zone. Kurovski Jun 2013 #14
Smash the surveillance state! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #9
"... detecting child pornographers or terrorists" OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #10
We should call the white house and tell george to knock it off nt msongs Jun 2013 #11
LOL Kurovski Jun 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Jun 2013 #12
It's in the Constitution, you know. woo me with science Jun 2013 #16

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
2. You've got to be kidding me...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:55 AM
Jun 2013

...this doublespeak tripe comes from someone claiming to "secure the homeland":

“We do not believe that this 1986 approach, or a reasonable suspicion requirement in any other form, would improve current policy,” the report said. “Officers might hesitate to search an individual’s device without the presence of articulable factors capable of being formally defended, despite having an intuition or hunch based on experience that justified a search.” It added: “An on-the-spot perusal of electronic devices following the procedures established in 1986 could well result in a delay of days or weeks.”


We've come a long way, after that bad right turn, since the days of

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
7. I Don't Understand Court Rulings
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:29 AM
Jun 2013

That treat land lines differently than cell phones and printed documents differently than electronic documents. When the Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution there were neither land lines or cell phones so nobody can claim original intent. So why has this conservative Court made distinctions where none exist other than means of transportation. Of course DHS is going to try and push these court sanctioned limits as far as they can. It is the gutting of the Bill of Rights (except for the 2nd Amendment) by the Supreme Court that is the source of this problem.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
8. I live in a Constitution Free Zone state
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:56 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.aclu.org/national-security_technology-and-liberty/are-you-living-constitution-free-zone


Using data provided by the U.S. Census Bureau, the ACLU has determined that nearly 2/3 of the entire US population (197.4 million people) live within 100 miles of the US land and coastal borders.

The government is assuming extraordinary powers to stop and search individuals within this zone. This is not just about the border: This " Constitution-Free Zone" includes most of the nation's largest metropolitan areas.



 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
10. "... detecting child pornographers or terrorists"
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:05 AM
Jun 2013

Or copyright violators.

We must take a cheek swab of your DNA now.

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