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22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From Each Other (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 OP
Now if we could just get one to explain the one's here on DU. William769 Jun 2013 #1
I think the maps actually show how the differences MineralMan Jun 2013 #2
In the 60s when we visited NYC my Dad had to translate for us csziggy Jun 2013 #15
Americans speak English even more totally differently than that from each other Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #3
I think that "totally different" is a matter of some dispute Orrex Jun 2013 #4
Ok, I'll be the one to ask demwing Jun 2013 #55
I travel frequently for work tabbycat31 Jun 2013 #5
I say the word Caramel both ways Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #6
Carmel ('car-mel') is a town tabbycat31 Jun 2013 #9
Please help me understand how the word "coffee" could be said in 3 syllables We People Jun 2013 #14
it's really hard to type out tabbycat31 Jun 2013 #23
Of course, I should have known!! We People Jun 2013 #38
The town of which Clint Eastwood was once mayor is car-MEL. KamaAina Jun 2013 #19
Yep, the one in Indiana is CARmel. Myrina Jun 2013 #29
The town in which I live is CAR-m'l lapislzi Jun 2013 #50
And New Orleans is Nawlins n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #7
I learned that years ago when we moved to Mississippi from Chicago PatSeg Jun 2013 #12
A college dorm mate talked about the "Golf of Mexico" csziggy Jun 2013 #16
It was quite an education for me at the time PatSeg Jun 2013 #45
But only below Canal Street KamaAina Jun 2013 #21
There is no city quite like it PatSeg Jun 2013 #46
Bleh Sgent Jun 2013 #57
Most of the guys I worked with were from Plaquemines Parish Fumesucker Jun 2013 #58
I'm from the west coast and I say soda pop Quantess Jun 2013 #8
When I was growing up in California we called it "soft drinks." Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #17
In Texas, they call it Coke. KamaAina Jun 2013 #22
I've heard that about the South. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #24
Here, it's "Co Drank" Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #27
Some of my relatives up in the hills call it "Co-Cola" Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #37
Merry, marry, and Mary are pronounced the same? krispos42 Jun 2013 #10
my mother wondered the same thing when i was growing up in ohio in the 70s. unblock Jun 2013 #13
Marry me Mary, and I'll make you merry. n/t malthaussen Jun 2013 #33
Mary and marry are pronounced the same KamaAina Jun 2013 #41
EXACTLY krispos42 Jun 2013 #54
no they aren't? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #61
i'm sure this is quite interesting for people with normal color vision.... unblock Jun 2013 #11
Apparently there is no "skim milk" in California Prism Jun 2013 #18
"skimmed", not "skim" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #32
I always thought ya'll yankees had a funny accent Lochloosa Jun 2013 #20
And then there's "expressway" KamaAina Jun 2013 #25
Let's not forget Turnpike. malthaussen Jun 2013 #34
There is a Kansas Turnpike. KamaAina Jun 2013 #42
The Will Rogers Turnpike is in Oklahoma n/t alarimer Jun 2013 #59
Why do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway? n/t malthaussen Jun 2013 #36
A few years ago I was trying to get an address over the phone from a woman in Maryland. Shrike47 Jun 2013 #26
I wish they had done one more word hollysmom Jun 2013 #28
"slide" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #31
"Sliding board." malthaussen Jun 2013 #35
The 'Burgh has one of the more distinctive local dialects. KamaAina Jun 2013 #43
Some are restricted to the city limits. malthaussen Jun 2013 #60
Does your mom come from Bayonne? smokey nj Jun 2013 #48
I lived in the Milwaukee area until I was about 7. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #30
Oddly enough, one other place uses "bubbler" KamaAina Jun 2013 #44
But in Boston it's a 'bubblah' Berlum Jun 2013 #51
Here is a link to the whole survey results maps, you can also look by city on maps. Very neat. uppityperson Jun 2013 #39
Very interesting. Thank you! MyshkinCommaPrince Jun 2013 #40
and these maps have been verified as accurate by Verizon KurtNYC Jun 2013 #47
Where's the map of people who say "SAL-MON" instead of "SAM-MON" (phonetically) reflection Jun 2013 #49
Being from the UK janlyn Jun 2013 #52
One linguistic "tell" that you hail from Chicago: truedelphi Jun 2013 #53
I say BEEN with the EE as in SEE Skittles Jun 2013 #56

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
2. I think the maps actually show how the differences
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jun 2013

are disappearing. I remember hearing major speech pattern differences in my extensive US travels in the 1960s. I hear less of it these days. I think the melding is progressing apace. That's probably due in large part to television.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. In the 60s when we visited NYC my Dad had to translate for us
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jun 2013

From our Central Florida Southern accent to New York City accents.

About the same time, a friend of my Dad's from college moved from Michigan to Central Florida and his children had trouble understanding anyone, teachers or students.

On the other hand, when we visited Mom's relatives in Alabama, we had trouble understanding their thick accents.

It wasn't as though we had not been exposed to various speech patterns. Dad's parents were from Escanaba, Michigan, and friends of their from Michigan, Ohio, New York and other northern states often visited in the winter. When I was in high school, one teacher thought I was from the Midwest since I had picked up some of the accents from my grandparents' friends.

I think you're right - television has reduced regional accents. I think I read that most TV news people have Midwestern accents and that seems to be what many people are emulating.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
4. I think that "totally different" is a matter of some dispute
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jun 2013

I don't know if "totally different" is a formal linguistic term, but to me it implies "not inter-compatible," in the way that Mandarin and Swahili are "totally different."

But regional accents with incidental quirks of grammar or vocabulary don't strike me as all that "totally different." And that's speaking as someone who's been asked "yinz red up your closet?"

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
55. Ok, I'll be the one to ask
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jun 2013

Please translate: "yinz red up your closet?" into real English.

I'm overcome with curiosity

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
5. I travel frequently for work
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013

And every new place I go, I get pronunciation tips from the locals to make me sound like less of an outsider.

When I was in Wisconsin, even the city I was in (Green Bay), I was saying wrong (I emphasized Green instead of Bay). When I was in Southwest Virginia, the first thing I learned was that if a town ended in 'ville' it was pronounced 'vul' instead of 'ville' (it was hard to get used to that considering my hometown ends in ville)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. I say the word Caramel both ways
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jun 2013

depending on sentence structure and use of the word.. I'm a blend of the west and the south.


New Mexico its Pop almost right when you get across the border from Texas where they use the word Soda.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
9. Carmel ('car-mel') is a town
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jun 2013

One that I went to camp in as a kid, and car-a-mel (with the extra a in there) is the candy.

I'll always say certain things, and soda is one of them. I'm too much of a northerner to let that go. I have a slight NY accent (grew up in the NYC suburbs) but my parents are not New Yorkers and if we said something like coffee (with 3 syllables) or dog 'dou-og' we would have been corrected and gotten in trouble for it. I will admit to using 'fuhgedaboudit' in my vocabulary.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
23. it's really hard to type out
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jun 2013

Let me see if I can find something on youtube.

This is the closest I can find

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
19. The town of which Clint Eastwood was once mayor is car-MEL.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jun 2013

The alternate pronunciation of the candy is CAR-m'l.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
50. The town in which I live is CAR-m'l
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jun 2013

If you say it wrong, the locals will remind you that car-MEL is in California.

And we eat caramels with three syllables.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
12. I learned that years ago when we moved to Mississippi from Chicago
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jun 2013

and Gulfport is "Gufport". Biloxi is "Biluxi".

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
16. A college dorm mate talked about the "Golf of Mexico"
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jun 2013

It cracked us up every time - and she could not hear the difference between "golf" and "Gulf"!

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
45. It was quite an education for me at the time
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jun 2013

I was in high school and my friends were always trying to teach me the "right" pronunciation for certain words. Once we moved back north, I quickly unlearned everything they taught me.

I had forgotten about the "Golf of Mexico"!!!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. But only below Canal Street
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jun 2013

Uptown, it's more like "Norluns".

You just gotta love a city that has internal dialects!

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
57. Bleh
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:41 PM
Jun 2013

I hate it when people say that -- because I don't think I've ever heard a local say it that way. The closest I've ever heard is na-orlens Pretty much any pronunciation that doesn't put a hard emphasis on the "eans" portion of the word is regularly used.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
58. Most of the guys I worked with were from Plaquemines Parish
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jun 2013

And that's certainly what it sounded like to me, or maybe "N'Awlins".

But my ear is not that good so maybe you're right.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
8. I'm from the west coast and I say soda pop
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jun 2013

Just to cover both bases. I used to call it pop and then I moved to CA where people called it soda.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
17. When I was growing up in California we called it "soft drinks."
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jun 2013

When I told people on the East Coast that, they laughed at me. I'm still scarred.

I call it "soda" now (live in Oregon).

Come to think of it, when i lived in Ohio people called it "pop" -- pronounced "paahp" with a slight nasal thing going on.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
22. In Texas, they call it Coke.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jun 2013

No matter what kind it actually is.

Waitress: "What kind of Coke'll you have?"

Diner: "Dr Pepper, please".

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
24. I've heard that about the South.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jun 2013

I guess "Coke" is kind of like generic, like "Kleenex." But it seems confusing to me.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
37. Some of my relatives up in the hills call it "Co-Cola"
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jun 2013

In formal settings, like when ordering with a Moon Pie, they'll ask for an "RC-Co-Cola".

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
61. no they aren't?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:26 AM
Jun 2013

"Marry" has a slightly higher vowel sound than "Mary".

In many British (and some American) accents, ‘marry’ (and other ‘-arry’ words) are pronounced with the same vowel in ‘cat;’ ‘merry,’ (and other ‘-erry’ words) are pronounced with the same vowel in ‘pet;’ and ‘mary’ (and other ‘-ary’ words) is pronounced with the same vowel as that found in ‘fair.’

http://dialectblog.com/2011/09/21/marry-merry-mary/

unblock

(52,196 posts)
11. i'm sure this is quite interesting for people with normal color vision....
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jun 2013

if even those tiny squares in the legend were just a little bigger, that would help!

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
18. Apparently there is no "skim milk" in California
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jun 2013

This one surprised me. When I go to a coffee shop in the Bay Area, there is a better than even chance the barista has no idea what I'm on about when I ask for skim. I have to say nonfat.

Is skim a Midwestern thing?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. And then there's "expressway"
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jun 2013

Back East, it means a limited-access highway, often an Interstate (Bruckner Expressway in NYC, Jones Falls Expressway in Bawlmer): what Californians would call a freeway.

Out here, specifically here in Santa Clara County, it means a fast but undivided road with relatively few intersections and few if any buildings directly on it: what most folks would call a "parkway" or maybe a "boulevard".

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
42. There is a Kansas Turnpike.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

Thanks for playing, though.

In New England, a turnpike can be any old road, even a two-laner, as long as it was an actual turnpike (toll road with turnstiles) way back when.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
26. A few years ago I was trying to get an address over the phone from a woman in Maryland.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jun 2013

She kept saying the street, 'Balimer'. I kept saying 'could you repeat that?' I finally asked her to spell it. 'B-a-l-t-i-m-o-r-e', making it clear from her tone that I was an idiot.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
28. I wish they had done one more word
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jun 2013

what do you call that thing in a play ground where you climb steps and then slide down?
I grew up calling it a sliding pond. Doesn't make any sense at all since there is no water at the bottom - from what i can see, that is a local aberration to Hudson county, NJ (where my mother came from) - Some people call it a slide,others have called it a slip slide.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
35. "Sliding board."
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jun 2013

I grew up in Pittsburgh's suburbs, that's what we called it. AFAIK, it didn't change when I moved to Philly -- although the culture shock of changing from "pop" to "soda" nearly did me in.

-- Mal

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
43. The 'Burgh has one of the more distinctive local dialects.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

gum band = rubber band
sammich = sandwich
dahntahn = downtown
needs cleaned (or whatever) = needs to be (whatever) (this applies to all of western PA)
yinz = y'all (hence the name "Yinzer" for this speech pattern and its speakers)

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
60. Some are restricted to the city limits.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:22 AM
Jun 2013

"yinz" is a good example -- I never heard that until I was an adult and read about how strange the Pittsburgh dialect was.

-- Mal

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
48. Does your mom come from Bayonne?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jun 2013

Cause that's what we called it when I was growing up. It always bothered me and I eventually I just started calling it a slide.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
30. I lived in the Milwaukee area until I was about 7.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jun 2013

I understood that the thing where you press a handle and drinking water came out was called a "bubbler." When we moved to Minnesota I got a lot of grief in school for using that term, and was informed that it's a "drinking fountain." Apparently "bubbler" is unique to Milwaukee (which the locals pronounce "M'wawkee&quot .

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
40. Very interesting. Thank you!
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jun 2013

I love this sort of thing. Looking at how I fail to fit properly into so many of those maps shows me why people keep asking me where I come from. It isn't merely because I call it "Loowievill" instead of "Loovull". I favor a number of terms and pronunciations which are just outside the local norms.

I'm a bit surprised that "soft drink" has lost its popularity. I recall a piece on the topic of the isogloss on NPR, years ago. Their main examples were soda/pop/soft drink, with the last of these being prevalent on the west coast, and tennis shoe/sneaker/gym shoe/plimsole. I think I will have to start giving the neglected "soft drink" some love.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
49. Where's the map of people who say "SAL-MON" instead of "SAM-MON" (phonetically)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jun 2013

That drives me batty. And they're everywhere. Thank goodness most of these people around me eat catfish. I worked at a seafood restaurant during college and I had to hear "SAL-MON" constantly.

janlyn

(735 posts)
52. Being from the UK
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jun 2013

The thing that drove my mother crazy was calling a wash cloth a warsh rag!!! I made the mistake of saying it once...and my mother believed in striking what offends, so I bet you can guess where I got slapped!!
Even after living in the southern part of the US for almost 30 yr I still won't use that particular phrase. But it's ok to to say pert near!!!

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
53. One linguistic "tell" that you hail from Chicago:
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jun 2013

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Folks in Chicago, if they are going to the store (or anywhere), will ask: "I'm going to the store. Do you wanna come with?"

I never knew most people finish that sentence "with me."

And my WI cousins referred to the drinking fountain as the "bubbler."

As a child, I once spent fifteen minutes trying to figure out why my friend from Alabama had a kite that died, and then she missed it and had to get a new one.

Finally realized it was her cat that died, not a kite.

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