Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:00 PM Jun 2013

Americans blame 'government welfare' for persistent poverty, poll finds

Well this just stinks......



Two decades after President Bill Clinton promised to "end welfare as we know it," Americans blame government handouts for persistent poverty in the United States more than any other single factor, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Thursday.

Given a list of eight factors and asked to choose the one most responsible for the continuing problem of poverty, 24 percent of respondents in the poll chose "too much government welfare that prevents initiative."

Whether Americans are too dependent on government was a flashpoint of the presidential campaign last year, and shrinking government has been a focus of the Tea Party movement, which has risen since the election of President Barack Obama.

"Lack of job opportunities" was the second most popular answer, at 18 percent, followed by "lack of good educational opportunities" and "breakdown of families," with 13 percent apiece.

The other four options in the poll, in descending order, were "lack of work ethic," "lack of government funding," "drugs" and "racial discrimination." Eight percent of respondents said that all eight factors were equally responsible.


http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/06/18802216-americans-blame-government-welfare-for-persistent-poverty-poll-finds?lite

16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Americans blame 'government welfare' for persistent poverty, poll finds (Original Post) a kennedy Jun 2013 OP
So do I. I blame government welfare handed out to corporations. onehandle Jun 2013 #1
^^This!^^ LeftofObama Jun 2013 #3
+1 n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #15
Do people even know what it's like living on benefits? alp227 Jun 2013 #2
It's pretty obvious that those who think being on welfare equals living on easy street Arkansas Granny Jun 2013 #9
SIGH. Their channels are working well on the people, I see. HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #4
I have a question... Bigmack Jun 2013 #5
People don't seem to get . . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2013 #8
That's why the Republicans want desperate people to have guns. justice1 Jun 2013 #10
I'm not sure the rich think about anything beyond mindless acquisition. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #11
Only 24% do. That means 76% blame it on other factors. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #6
That doesn't make sense JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #7
just letting them starve to death would solve the problem. That's right, GOP librechik Jun 2013 #12
What the heck? LeftInTX Jun 2013 #13
24 percent of americans arely staircase Jun 2013 #14
1 out of 4 blame welfare. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #16

alp227

(32,015 posts)
2. Do people even know what it's like living on benefits?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jun 2013

So damn miserable and restricted. Why would anyone want to live off it? In fact because of the '96 reforms it's impossible to "LIVE OFF" welfare without committing fraud. And then "what about disability?" I've heard that NPR "Unfit for Work" story. But do they understand the long and winding process in APPLYING for disability checks?

And what would those 24% "too much welfare" respondents rather have for those poor people? Make them be beggars? Workhouses? (A certain British literary legend comes to mind.)

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
9. It's pretty obvious that those who think being on welfare equals living on easy street
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jun 2013

have never had to apply for benefits. There is a common misconception that all you have to do is walk into the office and tell them you need assistance and *presto* they hand you a sack full of money and food stamps. Easy peasy! They have no idea of the hoops you have to jump through, the personal information you have to provide and how little help you actually receive when those benefits are assigned.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
4. SIGH. Their channels are working well on the people, I see.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jun 2013

That's also their idiot "Reagan Democrat" parents at work, passing down the poison.

Amazing that conservative Uhmerica is all so wont to punish these supposed "system gamers" among the poor, but completely excuse (and sometimes even laud and love) the far more damaging system gamers among the wealthy.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
5. I have a question...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

related to this poll.

What would happen if there were no "welfare"... no SNAP, no TANF, no aid of any kind?

Do you think the poor would just starve quietly, or would they start violently taking shit?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
8. People don't seem to get . . . .
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jun 2013

. . . that our (albeit miniscule) safety net is the only thing coming between the wealthy and their well-deserved gibbetts.

justice1

(795 posts)
10. That's why the Republicans want desperate people to have guns.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jun 2013

They need to fill their for profit prisons.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
11. I'm not sure the rich think about anything beyond mindless acquisition.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jun 2013


Is there anything that you can buy with the 2nd hundred million that the 1st hundred million couldn't?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. Only 24% do. That means 76% blame it on other factors.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013

Which is about right considering about 24% support the tea party.

JustAnotherGen

(31,809 posts)
7. That doesn't make sense
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013

If I ONLY had one choice - as the questions exist in that graph. . . I would have a hard time. My true answer doesn't exist:

Not enough job opportunities combined with too much of the WRONG kind of 'welfare'. I.E. We kick people off of SNAP and TANF at income levels that are still FAR too low.

I think by State for example - in NJ it should be aok for a family of 4 to stay on SNAP and TANF up to $30K a year. But that's just me.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
12. just letting them starve to death would solve the problem. That's right, GOP
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jun 2013

Their point that mere existence of the safety net increases poverty is wrong, craven and un-Christian.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
13. What the heck?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jun 2013

Not due to outsourcing?
Not due to corporate greed?
Not due to Poor wages?
Underpaid employees?
Lack of health care?
A Republican congress that voted against the jobs bill?
Decaying infrastructure that needs fixing?

The list goes on and on.

I agree this just stinks!!!!!!!!!

Fox News will be all over this one!!


arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
14. 24 percent of americans
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

lack of jobs, education and too little government spending together are higher. classic example of how to lie with statistics. they split the "liberal' answers into so many categories that they were bound to get a "conservative" answer.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Americans blame 'governme...