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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:54 AM Jun 2013

Civil liberties: American Freedom on the Line

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/06/07-0


US president Barack Obama with members of his national security team in the Situation Room of the White House. (Photograph: Pete Souza/White House via AFP/Getty)

A few months before he was first elected president in 2008, Barack Obama made a calculation that dismayed many of his ardent supporters but which he judged essential to maintain his drive to the White House. By backing President Bush's bill granting the US government wide new surveillance powers – including legal immunity for telecoms companies which had co-operated with the Bush administration's post-9/11 programme of wiretapping without warrants – Mr Obama stepped back from an issue that had initially helped to define his candidacy but was now judged to threaten his national security credentials. It was a big call. Even so, it seems unlikely that either supporters or critics, or even Mr Obama himself, ever believed that five years later a re-elected President Obama would oversee an administration that stands accused of routinely snooping into the phone records of millions of Americans.

Yet that is the situation at the heart of the Guardian's exclusive story this week that America's immense National Security Agency is doing just this on Mr Obama's watch. The revelation that a secret order, issued by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, requires one of the largest telecoms providers in the US to provide a daily diet of millions of US phone records to the FBI, poses Americans with a major civil liberties challenge. Under the terms of the order, everything about every call made during a three month period – excepting only the calls' actual contents – is offered up to the bureau and the NSA on a gargantuan routine basis. It seems improbable that the order revealed yesterday is the only one of its kind. So the assumption has to be that this is the new normality of American state surveillance. The special courts set up to monitor and approve industrial data-harvesting appear to provide little check on the scale of the activity.

Few Americans believe that they live in a police state; indeed many would be outraged at the suggestion. Yet the everyday fact that the police have the right to monitor the communications of all its citizens – in secret – is a classic hallmark of a state that fears freedom as well as championing it. Ironically, the Guardian's revelations were published 69 years to the day since US and British soldiers launched the D-day invasion of Europe. The young Americans who fought their way up the Normandy beaches rightly believed they were helping free the world from a tyranny. They did not think that they were making it safe for their own rulers to take such sweeping powers as these over their descendants.

No one living in Britain should be naive about the reality of the terrorist threat against which such powers are deployed, least of all in the volatile aftermath of the Woolwich murder. Nor, in the light of the revelations from the US, ought we to be smug about the surveillance and data collection that goes on daily in our own midst too. By some readings, similar legal tools already exist here under the regulation of investigatory powers legislation. Both Conservative and Labour MPs have made clear they want new "snooper's charter" powers over email records. And western European security services, Britain's GCHQ monitoring agency in particular, have always regarded the ability to trade information with the US authorities as their life-blood.
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Civil liberties: American Freedom on the Line (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2013 OP
They were on the line 10 years ago and we were told to shut up. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #1
Time to clean house in Washington.. pipoman Jun 2013 #2
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
1. They were on the line 10 years ago and we were told to shut up.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:07 AM
Jun 2013

So, tough titty. I don't want to hear any whining from the right.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
2. Time to clean house in Washington..
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:38 AM
Jun 2013

every so often throughout history a true patriot has emerged. Someone who cares about the people and their rights above all else..Someone who disregards conventional government out of control and refuses to answer to the 'higher powers' who would enslave every 99%er on the planet..the time has come..Perot was close..a little goofy and 20 years before his time..

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