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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:24 PM Jun 2013

What is the Current NSA Spying Hullabaloo Distracting Us From?

This is old news, the spying on everything. So, why NOW?

My first guess would be the situation in Turkey.

Anyone else have any ideas why this is suddenly happening, why the release of "secrets" we already knew all about?

Besides Republicans trying to undermine Obama, of course. That applies to everything.

Don't think we didn't already know all the recent "revelations" then read this:

HELLO WORLD! George W. Bush illegally spied on American citizens. Read all about it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022963663

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What is the Current NSA Spying Hullabaloo Distracting Us From? (Original Post) Coyotl Jun 2013 OP
It may well be Turkey, Syria, the usual suspects. (eom) NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #1
The limited hangout of telco metadata and web usage (PRISM) avoids the mass profiling that leveymg Jun 2013 #2
2014. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #3
So much this. nt sufrommich Jun 2013 #8
CIRCLE THE WAGONS! IT'S A TRICK!!!!111!!! woo me with science Jun 2013 #4
Cheerios would be first on my list. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #5
LOUD NOISES!!!! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #6
SLATE: Stop Freaking Out About the NSA Coyotl Jun 2013 #7
Who benefits? - The GOP? China? the anti-Syria and anti-Iran bloc? FarCenter Jun 2013 #9
from the Michelle Obama being heckled story Enrique Jun 2013 #10

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. The limited hangout of telco metadata and web usage (PRISM) avoids the mass profiling that
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

makes the NSA analysis system - ThinThread - work effectively so it isn't overwhelmed by the amount of sheer data that goes through the communications networks. Mass profiling also allows anonymization, so that 2008 FISA Amendment legal requirements are met. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/07/1214479/-Is-Universal-Profiling-of-phone-users-in-America-the-next-revelation

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
4. CIRCLE THE WAGONS! IT'S A TRICK!!!!111!!!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

Yes, our Constitutional protections are just a DISTRACTION! DEFENDING THE BLUE TEAM is what's IMPORTANT!!!!11!!!

You guys are going to keep throwing stuff at the wall, desperately hoping something will stick, aren't you?

Pssst. Americans care about our Constitutional protections. We didn't sign up for a surveillance state from Democrats. And the fiercer the apologism for this shit, the angrier I predict the country will become.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. SLATE: Stop Freaking Out About the NSA
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jun 2013

Stop Freaking Out About the NSA
The government’s phone surveillance isn’t Orwellian. It’s limited and supervised.


By William Saletan|Posted Thursday, June 6, 2013, at 3:52 PM

You don’t need a wiretap to hear what people are saying about the National Security Agency’s phone surveillance program. The program’s details, disclosed in a secret court order leaked to the Guardian, show that at least one major company, Verizon, has been legally required to give the government information about its subscribers’ communications. “An astounding assault on the Constitution,” says Rand Paul. “Obscenely outrageous,” says Al Gore. “Beyond Orwellian,” says the ACLU.

Chill. You can quarrel with this program, but it isn’t Orwellian. It’s limited, and it’s controlled by checks and balances.

The program’s purpose, according to administration officials and knowledgeable members of Congress, is to find out who’s been calling or receiving calls from phone numbers linked to known or suspected terrorists. If Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been in contact with somebody flagged as a possible jihadist operative, this is the kind of surveillance that would have brought him to the attention of counterterrorism investigators, even without Russian assistance.
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The leaked order is certainly worth discussing. It confirms that previous lines have been crossed. It’s now clear that the surveillance program, which was known to have been conducted under President Bush, has continued ...


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/06/stop_the_nsa_surveillance_hysteria_the_government_s_scrutiny_of_verizon.html

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
10. from the Michelle Obama being heckled story
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jun 2013

Glenn Greenwald is helping out his anti-Obama friends at Code Pink.

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