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"He was calm and looking for targets"
"calm cool and collected" "he got out of his car in the intersection and started blasting in all directions"
"multiple weapons"
Note: People are still being told to shelter in place at 1:20 PST
Second shooter being sought (They aren't sure how many there were)
Update: one dead, four hospitalized - not clear if the shooter is included in those numbers
Also: probably related two men dead in house fire near campus
Live Streaming Link
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Hmmm. Gun nut? Obama had JUST driven by 20 minutes earlier
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)3 are in the hospital - 2 critical 1 serious - including shooter - many witnesses say there were 2 shooters so all schools in Santa Monica are on lockdown.
Not impacting POTUS visit
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)and then just starting shooting any target.
Obama had crossed a couple of blocks from where it happened 20 minutes earlier.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Same thought crossed my mind
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)So it might be another kind of crime, but the timing!
.. okay now they're saying the Asian guy was on campus looking for his girlfriend.
He probably didn't have a student ID lol ...
He was wearing all black, sometimes being "cool" has consequences
Breaking: 1 suspect in 2 possible home invasions w/ fire set. 2 car jacks, includ. 1 near SM College Lib. Shooting left 3 wounded in spree.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)wtf?
People saw a car swerving down the street from that house
On Pico
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)hood!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)How about a DU meetup at The Daily Pint?
http://thedailypint.net/
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)it's pretty calm around here!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Great beer and scotch selection!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I tried one time to meet up at Trip on Lincoln for Chris Hayes visit but most DUers live on the East Side, I think.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Twilight concerts at the pier, all kinds of fun
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Jimmy Cliff!?!?!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)DU meetup for Angelenos for that?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Eww...
zappaman
(20,606 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)huh?
This is getting weirder. NOTE: there is only 1 homicide most years in Santa Monica!
POTUS still has to drive right by this to get to Santa Monica airport..
zappaman
(20,606 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Instead of using the chopper it will be by vehicle, it'll be a traffic nightmare on the 405.
The newsbroadcaster: "this has nothing to do with Obama's visit" -- now he's late for the meeting with the Chinese
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Or bad guys with guns?
temporary311
(955 posts)until they aren't.
Celldweller
(186 posts)That's impossible. California has some of the strongest gun laws in the nation.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Students sheltered in place in the gym are doing yoga to relax.
Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)That's an old one used by NRA gunners many times here. Thanks for the memory.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)first time. What's that really supposed to mean? Imagine how much worse it would be if we didn't have strict laws.
Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)whenever there is a shooter in a state with gun control.
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #31)
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Did you run out and buy a bushmaster during their "renew your man card" ad campaign?
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)matters at all to the deceased and the probably hundreds of lives that will be forever impacted by their absence. One thing I can guarantee you is that if it were your son or daughter or wife or husband laying dead in the morgue, you would not be such a smug asshole and I doubt you would go around telling everyone "Well, at least the media described the firearm accurately!"
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Andrey Priadkin was studying for finals in the Santa Monica College library when he heard the screams.
"I figured that something happened to one of the students or employees," the 34-year-old said. "The one female was screaming really loud. I was sitting near the emergency exit, and since I thought it was someone injured, I just went over toward the main entrance to see what happened."
Priadkin said students then began running toward the emergency exit. "I realized maybe I should do the same," he said.
He was about 20 feet outside the building when he realized he had left his belongings behind. He turned back, but the door was locked. He peered in a window and saw a man inside.
"I saw a guy wearing all black, holding a big gun. He looked very calm," Priadkin said. "I stared at him. I'm thinking maybe he's a police force."
zappaman
(20,606 posts)It's in lockdown still.
Fucking horrible that this happens seemingly daily here in the U.S.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)A Lebanese family, two sons. Don't know if this is confirmed.
http://www.smmirror.com/articles/News/Multiple-Victims-At-Santa-Monica-College-Shooting/37725
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Serious police presence now on Centinela.
Apparently there is a house there with relatives?
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Much worse than thought, I thought it was just the three in the hospital plus gunman
malaise
(268,930 posts)and started the fire. Six dead - here we go again
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)with copters showing that, or they were.
Up to nine in total, one just died in the hospital.
That's a mass shooting as far as I'm concerned.
malaise
(268,930 posts)This is madness.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)He must have killed them (family) and then decided to take out some random people.
Fucked up.
Centinela and Palms is shut down right now with a huge police presence.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)There is a person of interest in custody. Probably just because he was dressed all in black. He is Asian and said he went to the campus to look for his girlfriend. Saw him being taken away in cuffs, thought to myself that wearing all black can be a problem considering how nuts with guns favor that look.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)It's a Lebanese family so someone said, that the gunman is from, his killed his dad and brother, set fire to the house and went on a shooting spree, according to some witnesses and the dead may reach up to 9 depending on who survives. I think it's already 7 if the gun man is included.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Anyone seen Issa???
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)A CNN reporter just called the AR-15 the civilian version of the M-15.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)not knowing intimate details about types of guns. They claim the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle. They claim there is no such thing as an assault rifle.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Celldweller (157 posts)
37. Do you know
if it was one of the "extra-evil" ones with a bayonet lug or collapsible stock or the flash hider? Those ones are REALLY bad.
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Made no sense to me what this DUer is implying with this. Along the same lines I presume
hack89
(39,171 posts)and not on the actually lethality of the weapons. For example, the AR-15 used at Sandy Hook was a legal rifle because it didn't have features like a "bayonet lug or collapsible stock or the flash hider.".
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)and outlaw all semi-autos with detachable mags, or that hold more than say five rounds. That'll shut most gun shops down, yahoos will lose interest in dang things.
hack89
(39,171 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)I feel kind of sleazy for being able to translate gun nut.
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)She changed since high school and got ugly on the inside.
derby378
(30,252 posts)It's a rifle, plain and simple. I understand why some folks are throwing around the MSR line, but that doesn't mean I have to use it.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)They'd rather go hump their "precious"
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)by dead man's wife, probable father of the killer.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)(So he could kill more innocent people.)
Sympathies to the victims and their families--f*ck you, NRA and Congress who won't implement responsible, reasonable gun laws to minimize the chances of this continuing to happen. Everyone in Congress who won't do something about changing the gun laws in this country has blood on their hands tonight. (Again.)
hack89
(39,171 posts)none of them are retroactive - they don't remove a single gun from circulation.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Need to ban the dang things in all states unless permanently disabled from working.
As to there are already a bunch out there, might be true. But why screw around another decade so that gun yahoos can put millions more on street. We are going to have to deal with guns sooner or later. Australia is a good model.
hack89
(39,171 posts)CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)Notice how a couple of the bansalot echo chamber -- nevermind not worth the hide.
Have a good weekend!!
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)This isn't even major news anymore?
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Also, they make for easy filler during a slow news day.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)pandemonium there today.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I can see how that would have happened with all the rumors and misinformation. In fact it really was horrible, must have been terrifying
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Thank goodness he was not!
malaise
(268,930 posts)Had a duffle bag full of ammo
http://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-monica-shooting-premeditated-shooter-ready-battle/story?id=19354258
"I would presume anytime someone puts on a vest of some sort and has a bag of loaded magazines as an extra receiver, has a handgun and has a semi automatic rifle, carjacks folks, goes to a college, kills more people and has to be neutralized at hands of police -- I would stay that's premeditated," Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks said.
Police officials said they had unofficially identified the suspect, but they did not release name because they were working on notifying his next of kin.
They did confirm that the alleged shooter would have turned 24 years old today and that he, along with another family member, had a connection to Santa Monica College.
Santa Monica Police Department spokesman Sgt. Richard Lewis described the suspect as being "heavily armed" and "ready for battle." Lewis said at least 70 rounds were fired in the Santa Monica Library alone.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)That must be nearly the amount of ammo that the Aurora killer shot, just crazy, turns out I know someone who lives right near the house where it started who had to get out of their house last night, copters until late, scary and painful to live near the site and have to think about it from now on.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Must have lost his nerve - clearly wanted to be dead before his birthday
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)wasn't cut out for that degree of raw rage. The imitation part bothers me, have to wonder how many others aspire to similar acts, seems like one per month these days.