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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:30 PM Jun 2013

Eyewitness: man with assault rifle, bullet proof vest @ Santa Monica College update: Up to 6 dead

Last edited Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:35 PM - Edit history (7)

"He was calm and looking for targets"

"calm cool and collected" "he got out of his car in the intersection and started blasting in all directions"
"multiple weapons"

Note: People are still being told to shelter in place at 1:20 PST

Second shooter being sought (They aren't sure how many there were)

Update: one dead, four hospitalized - not clear if the shooter is included in those numbers
Also: probably related two men dead in house fire near campus

Live Streaming Link

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/


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Eyewitness: man with assault rifle, bullet proof vest @ Santa Monica College update: Up to 6 dead (Original Post) flamingdem Jun 2013 OP
"Quiet loner ... always kept to himself." lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #1
Described as "caucasian" flamingdem Jun 2013 #2
A red SUV was shot up and it went through a brick wall flamingdem Jun 2013 #3
Theory: They wanted to take a shot at Obama, couldn't flamingdem Jun 2013 #4
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jun 2013 #8
Wow, they took away an Asian male in cuffs flamingdem Jun 2013 #9
A house by the college is on fire after multiple gunshots heard flamingdem Jun 2013 #5
Appreciate The Up-Dates, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2013 #6
This is my flamingdem Jun 2013 #7
Have I ever seen you at The Daily Pint? n/t zappaman Jun 2013 #12
probably! flamingdem Jun 2013 #14
Say, I might be out your way next year! KansDem Jun 2013 #16
I'm in! Would love to meet with fellow DUers - normally flamingdem Jun 2013 #17
!! KansDem Jun 2013 #18
Let me know! Daily Pint will have to be alerted we're taking over flamingdem Jun 2013 #20
Anytime! zappaman Jun 2013 #19
Indeed, we should do a DU meetup flamingdem Jun 2013 #21
Let's DU it!!! KansDem Jun 2013 #22
ya gotta get out here! Summertime is nice flamingdem Jun 2013 #23
and a great lineup this year at the pier! zappaman Jun 2013 #26
I'm going to that for sure flamingdem Jun 2013 #29
You may have seen me whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #44
! zappaman Jun 2013 #49
Two men found dead in the house fire near SMC flamingdem Jun 2013 #10
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Obama is in town nearby. zappaman Jun 2013 #11
They are re-routing him away from the college, whew! flamingdem Jun 2013 #13
Good guys with guns... kentuck Jun 2013 #15
They're all good guys with guns temporary311 Jun 2013 #24
assault rifle? Celldweller Jun 2013 #25
Two witnesses described an AR-15 flamingdem Jun 2013 #28
Well isn't that clever. Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #31
I didn't catch that flamingdem Jun 2013 #35
An official NRA talking point Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #36
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #37
Sounds like you are attracted to them. Hoyt Jun 2013 #61
Do you think what kind of gun killed these seven people Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #62
Yeah, "extra-evil"? How childish... nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #67
Obviously they aren't strong enough. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #59
again? DesertFlower Jun 2013 #27
LA Times: Santa Monica College students describe moments of terror in library flamingdem Jun 2013 #30
One of my co-workers has her kid in daycare nearby. zappaman Jun 2013 #32
More details coming out flamingdem Jun 2013 #33
Yeah saw that. zappaman Jun 2013 #34
Police Chief just said that up to 6 are dead flamingdem Jun 2013 #38
So it's the same man who killed the two people malaise Jun 2013 #41
It's 7 if the gunman is included, he's still on the sidewalk dressed in black not being moved yet flamingdem Jun 2013 #42
Course it is malaise Jun 2013 #45
Plus the 2 who were in the house when it burned. zappaman Jun 2013 #43
They're calling it a crime spree flamingdem Jun 2013 #46
Let me guess: an AR15 BainsBane Jun 2013 #39
Yes, the Police Chief confirmed this flamingdem Jun 2013 #40
It's a Lebanese family malaise Jun 2013 #47
. flamingdem Jun 2013 #50
Gun nuts heads are going to explode BainsBane Jun 2013 #48
Why do they go gun nut over that? flamingdem Jun 2013 #51
They love to point out how stupid everyone is for BainsBane Jun 2013 #52
That must be related to post #37 from a "gun admirer" I believe flamingdem Jun 2013 #53
Most assualt weapons bans are based on cosmetic features hack89 Jun 2013 #56
That's the problem. Laws try to appease gun lovers. Quit codling them Hoyt Jun 2013 #63
That's nice Hoyt. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #64
Yeah, that relates to Feinstein's bill BainsBane Jun 2013 #57
Modern sporting rifle said my former Facebook friend IADEMO2004 Jun 2013 #60
Don't care much for that nomenclature, either derby378 Jun 2013 #77
The gun nuts in this country don't care about the carnage. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #54
Domestic violence was reported at that house flamingdem Jun 2013 #55
Obviously, the shooter NEEDED an assault rifle AndyA Jun 2013 #58
No law proposed by Congress would have removed this shooters gun. hack89 Jun 2013 #66
And you sure can't count on gun lovers to do right thing. Hoyt Jun 2013 #68
That's nice Hoyt. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #69
Same shit different day for particuliar poster(s). CokeMachine Jun 2013 #73
What does it say that these mass shootings are now so common BainsBane Jun 2013 #71
They've been this common. In the information age, they're just more reported. Decoy of Fenris Jun 2013 #79
A friend of mine works a couple blocks from there. He's ok, says it has been absolutely kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #65
The map of the mayhem is very wide flamingdem Jun 2013 #70
Damn, this guy was a bad shot, "hundreds and hundreds" of rounds at every location flamingdem Jun 2013 #72
70 shots in the library alone malaise Jun 2013 #74
I guess that means he didn't practice flamingdem Jun 2013 #75
He sure can't shoot - thankfully malaise Jun 2013 #76
Yes, seemed like he was imitating others but flamingdem Jun 2013 #78

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. A red SUV was shot up and it went through a brick wall
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

3 are in the hospital - 2 critical 1 serious - including shooter - many witnesses say there were 2 shooters so all schools in Santa Monica are on lockdown.

Not impacting POTUS visit

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. Theory: They wanted to take a shot at Obama, couldn't
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jun 2013

and then just starting shooting any target.

Obama had crossed a couple of blocks from where it happened 20 minutes earlier.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. Wow, they took away an Asian male in cuffs
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

So it might be another kind of crime, but the timing!

.. okay now they're saying the Asian guy was on campus looking for his girlfriend.
He probably didn't have a student ID lol ...

He was wearing all black, sometimes being "cool" has consequences

Breaking: 1 suspect in 2 possible home invasions w/ fire set. 2 car jacks, includ. 1 near SM College Lib. Shooting left 3 wounded in spree.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
5. A house by the college is on fire after multiple gunshots heard
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

wtf?

People saw a car swerving down the street from that house

On Pico

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
21. Indeed, we should do a DU meetup
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jun 2013

I tried one time to meet up at Trip on Lincoln for Chris Hayes visit but most DUers live on the East Side, I think.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
10. Two men found dead in the house fire near SMC
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

huh?

This is getting weirder. NOTE: there is only 1 homicide most years in Santa Monica!

POTUS still has to drive right by this to get to Santa Monica airport..

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. They are re-routing him away from the college, whew!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jun 2013

Instead of using the chopper it will be by vehicle, it'll be a traffic nightmare on the 405.

The newsbroadcaster: "this has nothing to do with Obama's visit" -- now he's late for the meeting with the Chinese

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
35. I didn't catch that
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

first time. What's that really supposed to mean? Imagine how much worse it would be if we didn't have strict laws.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #31)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
61. Sounds like you are attracted to them.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jun 2013

Did you run out and buy a bushmaster during their "renew your man card" ad campaign?

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
62. Do you think what kind of gun killed these seven people
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

matters at all to the deceased and the probably hundreds of lives that will be forever impacted by their absence. One thing I can guarantee you is that if it were your son or daughter or wife or husband laying dead in the morgue, you would not be such a smug asshole and I doubt you would go around telling everyone "Well, at least the media described the firearm accurately!"

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
30. LA Times: Santa Monica College students describe moments of terror in library
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-santa-monica-shooting-student-20130607,0,3634409.story

Andrey Priadkin was studying for finals in the Santa Monica College library when he heard the screams.

"I figured that something happened to one of the students or employees," the 34-year-old said. "The one female was screaming really loud. I was sitting near the emergency exit, and since I thought it was someone injured, I just went over toward the main entrance to see what happened."

Priadkin said students then began running toward the emergency exit. "I realized maybe I should do the same," he said.

He was about 20 feet outside the building when he realized he had left his belongings behind. He turned back, but the door was locked. He peered in a window and saw a man inside.

"I saw a guy wearing all black, holding a big gun. He looked very calm," Priadkin said. "I stared at him. I'm thinking maybe he's a police force."

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
32. One of my co-workers has her kid in daycare nearby.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jun 2013

It's in lockdown still.
Fucking horrible that this happens seemingly daily here in the U.S.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
34. Yeah saw that.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jun 2013

Serious police presence now on Centinela.
Apparently there is a house there with relatives?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
38. Police Chief just said that up to 6 are dead
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jun 2013

Much worse than thought, I thought it was just the three in the hospital plus gunman

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
42. It's 7 if the gunman is included, he's still on the sidewalk dressed in black not being moved yet
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jun 2013

with copters showing that, or they were.

Up to nine in total, one just died in the hospital.

That's a mass shooting as far as I'm concerned.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
43. Plus the 2 who were in the house when it burned.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:57 PM
Jun 2013

He must have killed them (family) and then decided to take out some random people.
Fucked up.
Centinela and Palms is shut down right now with a huge police presence.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
46. They're calling it a crime spree
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jun 2013

There is a person of interest in custody. Probably just because he was dressed all in black. He is Asian and said he went to the campus to look for his girlfriend. Saw him being taken away in cuffs, thought to myself that wearing all black can be a problem considering how nuts with guns favor that look.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
40. Yes, the Police Chief confirmed this
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jun 2013

It's a Lebanese family so someone said, that the gunman is from, his killed his dad and brother, set fire to the house and went on a shooting spree, according to some witnesses and the dead may reach up to 9 depending on who survives. I think it's already 7 if the gun man is included.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
48. Gun nuts heads are going to explode
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jun 2013

A CNN reporter just called the AR-15 the civilian version of the M-15.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
52. They love to point out how stupid everyone is for
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:04 PM
Jun 2013

not knowing intimate details about types of guns. They claim the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle. They claim there is no such thing as an assault rifle.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
53. That must be related to post #37 from a "gun admirer" I believe
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jun 2013

Celldweller (157 posts)
37. Do you know

if it was one of the "extra-evil" ones with a bayonet lug or collapsible stock or the flash hider? Those ones are REALLY bad.


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Made no sense to me what this DUer is implying with this. Along the same lines I presume

hack89

(39,171 posts)
56. Most assualt weapons bans are based on cosmetic features
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jun 2013

and not on the actually lethality of the weapons. For example, the AR-15 used at Sandy Hook was a legal rifle because it didn't have features like a "bayonet lug or collapsible stock or the flash hider.".

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
63. That's the problem. Laws try to appease gun lovers. Quit codling them
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jun 2013

and outlaw all semi-autos with detachable mags, or that hold more than say five rounds. That'll shut most gun shops down, yahoos will lose interest in dang things.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
60. Modern sporting rifle said my former Facebook friend
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jun 2013

She changed since high school and got ugly on the inside.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
77. Don't care much for that nomenclature, either
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jun 2013

It's a rifle, plain and simple. I understand why some folks are throwing around the MSR line, but that doesn't mean I have to use it.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
58. Obviously, the shooter NEEDED an assault rifle
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jun 2013

(So he could kill more innocent people.)

Sympathies to the victims and their families--f*ck you, NRA and Congress who won't implement responsible, reasonable gun laws to minimize the chances of this continuing to happen. Everyone in Congress who won't do something about changing the gun laws in this country has blood on their hands tonight. (Again.)

hack89

(39,171 posts)
66. No law proposed by Congress would have removed this shooters gun.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

none of them are retroactive - they don't remove a single gun from circulation.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
68. And you sure can't count on gun lovers to do right thing.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jun 2013

Need to ban the dang things in all states unless permanently disabled from working.

As to there are already a bunch out there, might be true. But why screw around another decade so that gun yahoos can put millions more on street. We are going to have to deal with guns sooner or later. Australia is a good model.

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
73. Same shit different day for particuliar poster(s).
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jun 2013

Notice how a couple of the bansalot echo chamber -- nevermind not worth the hide.

Have a good weekend!!

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
79. They've been this common. In the information age, they're just more reported.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jun 2013

Also, they make for easy filler during a slow news day.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
65. A friend of mine works a couple blocks from there. He's ok, says it has been absolutely
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jun 2013

pandemonium there today.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
70. The map of the mayhem is very wide
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jun 2013

I can see how that would have happened with all the rumors and misinformation. In fact it really was horrible, must have been terrifying

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
72. Damn, this guy was a bad shot, "hundreds and hundreds" of rounds at every location
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jun 2013

Thank goodness he was not!

malaise

(268,930 posts)
74. 70 shots in the library alone
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

Had a duffle bag full of ammo

http://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-monica-shooting-premeditated-shooter-ready-battle/story?id=19354258

"I would presume anytime someone puts on a vest of some sort and has a bag of loaded magazines as an extra receiver, has a handgun and has a semi automatic rifle, carjacks folks, goes to a college, kills more people and has to be neutralized at hands of police -- I would stay that's premeditated," Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks said.

Police officials said they had unofficially identified the suspect, but they did not release name because they were working on notifying his next of kin.

They did confirm that the alleged shooter would have turned 24 years old today and that he, along with another family member, had a connection to Santa Monica College.

Santa Monica Police Department spokesman Sgt. Richard Lewis described the suspect as being "heavily armed" and "ready for battle." Lewis said at least 70 rounds were fired in the Santa Monica Library alone.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
75. I guess that means he didn't practice
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013

That must be nearly the amount of ammo that the Aurora killer shot, just crazy, turns out I know someone who lives right near the house where it started who had to get out of their house last night, copters until late, scary and painful to live near the site and have to think about it from now on.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
76. He sure can't shoot - thankfully
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jun 2013

Must have lost his nerve - clearly wanted to be dead before his birthday

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
78. Yes, seemed like he was imitating others but
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jun 2013

wasn't cut out for that degree of raw rage. The imitation part bothers me, have to wonder how many others aspire to similar acts, seems like one per month these days.

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