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malaise

(268,930 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:43 PM Jun 2013

Are DUers noticing the size of these storms recently

Andrea is just a Tropical Storm but she is huge. Sandy was massive.
One of these days we will face a hurricane as strong as Katrina but the size of Sandy.

We had better start paying attention to climate change although it may already be too late.

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Are DUers noticing the size of these storms recently (Original Post) malaise Jun 2013 OP
Centered in the Carolinas currently. Been raining for 20 hours in Philly. onehandle Jun 2013 #1
Just look at the size of her malaise Jun 2013 #2
Kind of on topic. William769 Jun 2013 #3
Damn malaise Jun 2013 #4
Thats what I'm afraid of. William769 Jun 2013 #5
Frightening malaise Jun 2013 #6
Thanks. William769 Jun 2013 #7
another thing that is highly effective is Skin So Soft Bath Oil Spray CatWoman Jun 2013 #13
Did not know that malaise Jun 2013 #24
I always thought it was funny that a horrible Avon product works so well against bugs dlwickham Jun 2013 #58
I used ti buy it to keep fleas off my dogs. n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #63
So you are saying that MattBaggins Jun 2013 #26
Neem is a plant malaise Jun 2013 #28
Neem is a plant.. loaded with chemicals MattBaggins Jun 2013 #37
Better raw neem than big pharma malaise Jun 2013 #42
On what grounds? MattBaggins Jun 2013 #47
But some are free malaise Jun 2013 #49
The ones made by nature are less of a Pandora's Box than the ones made by man. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #52
LOL MattBaggins Jun 2013 #53
A Veterinarian would have studied all three siligut Jun 2013 #55
Someone with a background in science ought MattBaggins Jun 2013 #56
If the plant is whole, the chemicals may mediate each other siligut Jun 2013 #57
I recently learned that catnip has a chemical in it far more effective than DEET kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #38
We use neem oil or rub the leaves on our skin malaise Jun 2013 #41
Interesting plant. kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #51
We can buy it by the bundle in the markets malaise Jun 2013 #59
Yep greytdemocrat Jun 2013 #8
I just don't remember them this bad. William769 Jun 2013 #9
We call them Tiger Mosquitoes in N. FL Lochloosa Jun 2013 #15
Want them back? William769 Jun 2013 #17
Yup. have noticed that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #10
Well the oceans are heating up malaise Jun 2013 #12
I remember watching the head of the Mexican nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20
Ignorance is promoted by several interests malaise Jun 2013 #29
Last night I heard the rain loud and strong CatWoman Jun 2013 #11
Just you stay safe malaise Jun 2013 #14
I am in the Atlanta area also. I live in Woodstock just northwest of Atlanta. RebelOne Jun 2013 #25
saw plenty of downed trees and huge limbs CatWoman Jun 2013 #32
We could end up with a flood of 1985 every year... ileus Jun 2013 #16
Sad to say, I think it's too late. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #18
Yeah. That's what Control-Z Jun 2013 #19
You may be right malaise Jun 2013 #22
too bad we can't go back 20 years and start over, listening to the scientists stuntcat Jun 2013 #21
Guess people will watch coastal cities drown malaise Jun 2013 #23
In 20 years the iditots will be just as idiotic as they are today kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #39
Why don't our politicians DO SOMETHING??? malaise Jun 2013 #40
It is way too late to stop the freak storms but ... jimlup Jun 2013 #27
Weather whiplash. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #30
You are 100% correct malaise Jun 2013 #31
Silly - weather and climate change have nothing to do with each other. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #33
I should know better malaise Jun 2013 #61
FOCUS! We're still outraging over the NSA leak... n/t Earth_First Jun 2013 #34
I'd like Obama to get rid of it but I can't be outraged over malaise Jun 2013 #35
storms tardybar Jun 2013 #36
And are given aid & immunity by shareholders. raouldukelives Jun 2013 #44
The storms crossing the continent have also been massive rurallib Jun 2013 #43
You're correct malaise Jun 2013 #45
Rained practically all day in NY/NJ customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #46
She's practically sitting on top of us now BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #48
It probably is just too late. RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #50
Usually the storms get smaller as the winds increase NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #54
Too late for what? Socialistlemur Jun 2013 #60
It is already too late the size and destruction of the stroms now YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #62

William769

(55,145 posts)
3. Kind of on topic.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jun 2013

You should see the millions (literally) & the size of gnats this storm has spawned in S.W. Florida.

I have been here since 1973 and have never seen anything like this.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
58. I always thought it was funny that a horrible Avon product works so well against bugs
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:23 AM
Jun 2013

my grandmother used to buy it

just found this on line on how to properly use the stuff

In my 59 years of being the preferred outdoor insect Hors d'oeuvre. I have tried many yeah most insect repellants in the worst of conditions including Florida everglade insects, Florida beach Black Flies,
common flies and clouds of rocky mountain mosquitoes.

I have not found anything that is 1/2 as good as the ORIGINAL (AVON Skin so Soft Bath Oil) Nothing else works the same.

The problem is 99% of the public do not know how to use it correctly.

Use a medium to large premium pump spray bottle, fill it half full of plain water and half full of the above mentioned ORIGINAL; (AVON Skin so Soft Bath Oil)

While you are fully dressed and ready to go trecking start shaking the bottle vigorously (it will become milky looking in the bottle). Get out of the car into the cloud of bugs and spray yourself (with your eyes and mouth closed) head to toe while continuly shaking the bottle. Completely cover yourself and do the same for your best friend making sure you are completely covered everywhere, even behind the ears. Put the bottle down and rub it all in,(Watch those eyes). By this time you will notice all the bugs that used to be around have left and won't be back to bother you for one to two days, Do NOT WASH IT OFF. If you do, you had better Re-Spray yourself, bugs love clean people.. This always works for my entire family of five we have never been bitten by a bug after this approach. Now instead, You actually get to watch the swarms hover around and feed on all the other folks especially those who stink of Deet and other similar products; while everyone in your camp smells nice and flowery. I would rather smell pretty that feed the native insects. PS I have used this in bear country hearing bears within 75 yards of our tent and have never had a problem. Bears come when you do not store your food and waste carefully folks, or if a woman in your camp or nearby is in season, not because you wear Avon!!!!

Read more: Does avon skin so soft really repel bugs? | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/627779#ixzz2VayUN4zR

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
26. So you are saying that
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jun 2013

dimethyl (2aR,3S,4S,R,S,7aS,8S,10R,10aS,10bR)- 10-(acetyloxy)- 3,5-dihydroxy- 4-[(1S,2S,6S,8S,9R,11S)- 2-hydroxy- 11-methyl- 5,7,10-trioxatetracyclo[6.3.1.02,6.09,11]dodec- 3-en- 9-yl]- 4-methyl- 8-{[(2E)- 2-methylbut- 2-enoyl]oxy}octahydro- 1H-furo[3',4':4,4a]naphtho[1,8-bc]furan- 5,10a(8H)-dicarboxylate

as well as

Methyl (2R,3aR,4aS,5R,5aR,6R,9aR,10S,10aR)-5-(acetyloxy)-2-(furan-3-yl)-10-(2-methoxy-2-oxoethyl)-1,6,9a,10a-tetramethyl-9-oxo-3,3a,4a,5,5a,6,9,9a,10,10a-decahydro-2H-cyclopenta[.b]naphtho[2,3-d]furan-6-carboxylate

will protect you but without chemicals?

That stuff seems a lot scarier than N,N-Diethyl-3-methylbenzamide.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
42. Better raw neem than big pharma
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jun 2013

We use it a lot even as a pesticide in our vegetable and herb garden

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
52. The ones made by nature are less of a Pandora's Box than the ones made by man.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jun 2013

I'm guessing you don't have any background in chemistry, biology, or toxicology.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
56. Someone with a background in science ought
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:51 PM
Jun 2013

not to make appeals to nature.

A chemical is a collection of atoms in a particular arrangement and may or may not have certain bioactive properties.

It matters not if it is a so called "natural" or man made chemical.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
57. If the plant is whole, the chemicals may mediate each other
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:56 PM
Jun 2013

When the chemical is isolated, that mediating factor is removed. But I agree, a chemical is a chemical.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
38. I recently learned that catnip has a chemical in it far more effective than DEET
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jun 2013

in repelling mosquitoes. Another reason to plant catnip. I don't know how effective the plain unprocessed catnip leaf is when rubbed on the skin. You might not deter that many mosquitoes perhaps, but you'd be a hit with all the local kittehs.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
51. Interesting plant.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:26 PM
Jun 2013

I don't think it grows well around here, but no doubt the oil can be found through gardening supply stores or someplace.

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
8. Yep
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jun 2013

I walked into a zillion of them walking the dogs just a while ago.

But to be fair, it's nothing new. They always pop out after
a prolonged dry spell. Hardly anything new.

The worst was when I was still jogging and I'd get
covered in them...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Yup. have noticed that
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jun 2013

increased energy in the atmosphere... now I wonder what could have led to that?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. I remember watching the head of the Mexican
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jun 2013

National Weather Services after hail fell like nuts in Mexico City, (one more I was attacked for here, punching bag and all that)

He explained, imagine that, having a scientist on TV... RUN!!!! that the one degree (centigrade) extra in temperature has added the equivalent of 100,000 Hiroshima bombs to the atmosphere. So that increased energy makes for a far more dynamic weather system.

CatWoman

(79,295 posts)
11. Last night I heard the rain loud and strong
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jun 2013

It rained cats and dogs about 30 minutes ago, and the sky is dark again.

I'm in Atlanta. We are getting a lot of storms from that system. They are full of winds and are due to last all weekend.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
25. I am in the Atlanta area also. I live in Woodstock just northwest of Atlanta.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jun 2013

I have been seeing reports on TV news about all kinds of road collapses, flooding, and damage from fallen trees. In fact, all of this is more than I have seen in recent years.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
21. too bad we can't go back 20 years and start over, listening to the scientists
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jun 2013

They were saying the same things back then, even before. We can't go back even ten years and pay attention.. even five years..
Nope, in 2023 we'll be just as clueless, but CO2 in the atmosphere will be at 450 ppm by then. We'll be trashing things even faster then.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
39. In 20 years the iditots will be just as idiotic as they are today
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:49 PM
Jun 2013

and they'll say, "Global Warming? Pfft, when I was a kid twenty years ago, I saw New Orleans go and ten years later Oklahoma City was wiped out by a tornado. Then there was that hurricane that swallowed Cuba after Castro died. It's just the weather, man! It's always been like this. Can't do nothing about it, so why complain? Weather's gonna do what the weather's gonna do. The price of gas on the other hand, that is really starting to chap my ass! Why don't our politicians DO SOMETHING???

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
27. It is way too late to stop the freak storms but ...
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jun 2013

Me may yet avoid civilization threatening famines and displacements if we act now.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
30. Weather whiplash.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jun 2013

But don't worry. The same PR flacks that worked for Big Tobacco and told us that cigarettes are harmless will be happy to explain that these are perfectly normal weather patterns, and are not caused by the carbon emissions of their oil industry clients.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
35. I'd like Obama to get rid of it but I can't be outraged over
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jun 2013

something that is anything but breaking news

tardybar

(22 posts)
36. storms
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jun 2013

The Corporate News Media does not want to inform the public. They are in the pockets of Big Corporations who make big profits by dumping on the environment.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
44. And are given aid & immunity by shareholders.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jun 2013

Nothing makes people feel secure about themselves like assisting in the raping and profiting from it as much as possible before they depart this mortal coil.
Nothing makes corporations happier than sharing the wealth & spreading the blame around under a blanket of fiduciary responsibility.
It's a win-win.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
43. The storms crossing the continent have also been massive
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

The mess that went through last week causing problems from Texas to Minnesota and all places in between covered about 2/3 of the country.
At least one storm last winter had fingers in something like 43 states at one time. They are also getting more massive and dumping much more water.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
46. Rained practically all day in NY/NJ
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jun 2013

Not like it's a problem for me, as I spent 37 years in Western Washington state, where this was normal. Still, the rain has noticeably intensified in the last ten minutes, and I know the drainage systems here are not sufficiently developed.

I guess I can hope it drowns the cicadas before they make enough noise to wake the dead.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
54. Usually the storms get smaller as the winds increase
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:37 PM
Jun 2013

The hurricanes will become very organized and shrink into a small but very damaging storm. Andrea never had significant development and so remains a large mass of rain.

As of right now, 2.8 3.5 inches and rising of rainfall in SE Conn.

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)
60. Too late for what?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:01 AM
Jun 2013

I don't find global warming to be such a big worry. Long term, overpopulation worries me a lot more.

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
62. It is already too late the size and destruction of the stroms now
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:58 AM
Jun 2013

is mother natures way of getting some pay back.

At least she is hitting the right targets unlike that god being.

Humans are acting like asshats and will get their comeuppance soon and it is well deserved too.

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