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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:29 PM Jun 2013

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Just Vehemently Denied Giving The Government Direct Access To Facebook

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-denies-prism-story-2013-6?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider%2Fpolitics+%28Business+Insider+-+Politix%29



The claim that the FBI and National Security Agency are "tapping directly into the central servers" of the country's biggest technology companies to spy on their users looks ever more suspect.

Most of the major companies have now explicitly denied participating in such a program. Apple, Facebook, and Google have denied all knowledge of it.

An hour ago, Google CEO Larry Page published a blog post blasting the very idea that Google would do this.

And now Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has done the same:


*Zuckerberg quote at link above*
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Just Vehemently Denied Giving The Government Direct Access To Facebook (Original Post) steve2470 Jun 2013 OP
a pox on EVERYONE who made that little turd a billionaire Skittles Jun 2013 #1
If you've seen "The Social Network". Initech Jun 2013 #12
I detest him so much I could not see the movie Skittles Jun 2013 #13
+1000! BTW I don't Facebook. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #20
Nah, Zucks wrong...Americans M$M wouldn't report something that wasn't accurate and that they didn't uponit7771 Jun 2013 #2
probably true, he wouldn't do it without getting paid JI7 Jun 2013 #3
A whole lot of people took the bait though with spectacular results. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #4
So, the corporate media said this was true? What other bloggers are Cha Jun 2013 #5
yvw ! nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #6
"Direct" seems like the operative word in this statement. bunnies Jun 2013 #7
"Direct" is the weasel word in that denial. woo me with science Jun 2013 #8
They're all saying that. The key is the term "direct access." Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #9
I assume he's lying. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #10
... Fumesucker Jun 2013 #11
Yeah, this will definitely be bad for his business. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #14
Of course. xfundy Jun 2013 #15
He then went on to discuss requests for data. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #16
Pay attention to he careful use of language. woo me with science Jun 2013 #17
Indirect yes SHRED Jun 2013 #18
Keystone Mark is a sly one SHRED Jun 2013 #19
Apparently the government refused to pay him what he wanted jmowreader Jun 2013 #21

Initech

(100,063 posts)
12. If you've seen "The Social Network".
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jun 2013

Zuckerberg didn't really earn his fortune. He got really rich really quickly but he stabbed a lot of people in the back to get it.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. Nah, Zucks wrong...Americans M$M wouldn't report something that wasn't accurate and that they didn't
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jun 2013

...fully vet so...yeah....aint never happened.... /sarcasm

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. "Direct" is the weasel word in that denial.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jun 2013

There could be any sort of deliberate intermediary, along the lines of Palantir or something else entirely. These massive data centers and legal arguments for spying are not being constructed to store Freecell scores.

We are being fed a lot of carefully worded bullshit, and we'd better demand clarity. No "direct" access to "central servers" is not reassuring at all, except to those who are looking to shut down this conversation sooner rather than later.

Is this who runs Prism?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022964378

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. They're all saying that. The key is the term "direct access."
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jun 2013

They're all saying they have not given the govt "direct access to our servers." Note that they don't say what access they gave, if there was a third party who passed over the server info, if they did, or what.

Don't be fooled by terms with no definitions. Look behind the talking point words.

Disclaimer: I'm not judging these cos for abiding by a court order; I'm just pointing out to look behind words that haven't been defined, and that don't explicitly say what they did give the govt access to.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
14. Yeah, this will definitely be bad for his business.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jun 2013

Having worked for a major networking equipment manufacturer I can tell you that a back door for the gov is REQUIRED to be built into every router/switch etc that we sell.

once the gov has access to your network, they gain access to all your data, no need to go onto any individual server.

so i guess technically he isn't lying, cept through omission.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
15. Of course.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jun 2013

Facebook charges for their data on demographics, psychographics, timeline data and everything else. That's their business model, period.

I wouldn't doubt all these assholes who are into data mining "charge" the gubint by getting enormous tax breaks.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
16. He then went on to discuss requests for data.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jun 2013

And how and under what circumstances Facebook would provide information.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
21. Apparently the government refused to pay him what he wanted
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:30 AM
Jun 2013

To tell the truth, I am FAR more worried about Facebook's data collection techniques than I am about the NSA's. I know that everyone on Facebook has clicked "I Approve" of Facebook's policies but let's be real: who actually reads those things? And because you approved this thing you did not read, Zuckerberg has carte blanche to crawl up your ass, figure out what you had for breakfast yesterday, and sell the information to a cereal company.

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