A does NOT cancel B (about the NSA)

[DonCoquixote]

A lot of arguments on here seem to be "if you believe A, B must be false." That works great in Math problems, and in most logical arguments. However, even the biggest fans of logic will admit that an argument cannot be useful if the whole premise is corrupted from the start.

In this case, there are a lot of contradictory facts, but the facts are NOT disproving each other; they are compounding each other, making sure that if we just try to score points to prove we are "the good guys" we will be mowed down and paved over.

For example, I will admit, I despise Glenn Greenwald and Ron Paul. Considering that both of them are ardent defenders of the Citizens United decision, the one decision that allowed bribery to become legal, I do not trust either of their judgement skills. I get irked at the fact that while they talk about the fact that the government has overstepped it's bounds, they have not said a PEEP about the fact that Corporations are acting as the lackey, and of course, will attempt to maximize their profit by selling and using our info. The Silence is deafening. Considering that a lot of the damage will be done by our info being sold to, oh, who knows who on the other end of the world, that makes me think that at best, Glenn and Ron are grinding an ax.

That being said, that does not mean they are no right about this issue. Once people can legally document every keystroke you make, liberty becomes a joke. Granted, we all know that it has probably been done for years, if not by the government itself, by corporations who have been waiting for the go ahead from the government to collect, buy, and sell information, which is no less a product than groceries. However, the one thing keeping them from doing so has been the fear that if they got caught doing that, all hell would break loose. Now, the Googles and verisons can do that OPENLY, saying "well we had to data mine, because Uncle San wanted us to." Yeah, right, and I got a bridge on Brooklyn to sell you, cheap.

[randome]

1. If you consider the telecom warrants, only phone record metadata is being handed over.

And apparently the PRISM data collection only applies to foreign targets of an investigation.

Granted, everyone up and down the ladder could be lying to us but isn't that always the case in any given situation?

There comes a time when we need to judge an Administration by its intent, its stated goals and its accomplishments.

Obama has character and class. I don't think that should be so easily dismissed. I have no problem with giving him the benefit of the doubt and I consider the outrage directed at him to be opportunistic and misplaced.

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