Not my little angel.

[In_The_Wind]

http://jezebel.com/wisconsin-town-wants-parents-of-bullies-to-literally-pa-511649379

[Buzz Clik]

1. Roughing up kids and taking their lunch money.

Isn't that called bullying?

[In_The_Wind]

2. IMO: It is.

It needs to stop.

[libodem]

3. Good read

And so was the second article about 'drama' vs 'bullying'.

[In_The_Wind]

4. As the adult role model, it's up to us to start a child out right.

How can they grow up to be a positive part of society if we let them get away with hurting others.
Teens are committing suicide because of bullying.

Parents need to be held accountable for what their children are doing.

[libodem]

5. Absolutely

The parents have the biggest influence and hopefully they don't try to bully the kid into not being a bully. Children learn what they live. If the parents are kind and understanding the kid will have better social skills.

[In_The_Wind]

6. Slut shaming and the rape culture come from bad parents.

We, as a society, are seeing the results of neglect by parents.

A loving supportive home is the only way to raise a well balanced child.
It's the only way to heal society. Children learn by example. What message are we showing?

[cliffordu]

7. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^

[In_The_Wind]

10. Thank you!

[libodem]

15. I grew up in small town America

And gossip could be heard on your party line when you picked up the phone. People figuratively lived in glass houses. With the internet and picture phones the whole country is like a small town. A child's reputation can be tarnished in such a broad public way. I feel so sorry for kids these days.

I hate the slut shamimg. It's cruel beyond words. And now it is so public and prevalent. It does become life and death serious because death must seem like the only way out. Humans are fragile and not that easy to restore once they are damaged.

As much as anything, I see the worship of male athletes, and the good old boys' club of excusing repulsive behavior, as the 'culture' that is responsible. These guys are groomed to believe they are such deserving winners because they play high school football, that they are untouchable. The families and coaches covered up and lied to protect, the big strong guys, not the female victim.

[In_The_Wind]

16. I've been fighting the 'good old boys club' for 40 years. Nothing has improved.

My aunts and uncles lived with party lines. Church wasn't about God it was about who_was_doing_who. Again ... nothing has changed.

I want to do what I can to help the victims. Denying justice is as harmful as the original acts.

[libodem]

18. Even back in the '60's

We had an anti bullying movie called Cypher in the Snow, I believe the young boy was found frozen because he had been bullied.

[In_The_Wind]

19. Poor child. That must have been really bad for his parents to accept.

I was beaten up by three girls across the street from my elementary school in '59. An older girl rescued me but I don't remember the other's getting into trouble. Something must have been done. All I remember was learning not to trust. damn [img][/img]

[libodem]

20. My friend Diane

Has a similar story about being beaten up by grade school girls because she was chubby and not of their faith. She is 68 and still mentions it when we have bully discussions.

[LWolf]

8. What should parents do with their bullies?

"The law definitely sends a strong message that bullying is serious and parents need to step up, but it implies that parents can usually resolve a bullying issue if they try hard enough, which is a dubious premise."

One way for parents to make sure their kids aren't bullies is to refrain from bullying themselves; no name-calling, no put-downs of others, etc..

It's embedded in our culture. Name-calling and put-downs are rampant right here on DU. There is an assumption that it's okay, as long as the target is a Republican.

[In_The_Wind]

9. As a former Child Protective Investigator: Withhold privileges for bad behavior.

Reward good behavior.

B F Skinner was right.

One way for parents to make sure their kids aren't bullies is to refrain from bullying themselves; no name-calling, no put-downs of others, etc.

[LWolf]

12. That's a beginning, but it has limits.

And, taken to extremes, it does more harm than good.

The ultimate goal of extrinsic rewards is to prompt enough good behavior that the offender can begin to LIKE the way it feels when good choices are made. It's supposed to lead to the development of intrinsic motivation.

In the wrong hands, used the wrong way, it leads to "what do I get for _________________?"

As a teacher for the last 2.5 decades.

[In_The_Wind]

13. Knowing you've done the right thing will become the reward over time.

LWolf. We both know that taken to extreme, nothing works forever.
BUT we need to stop turning a blind eye to childish behavior which may become worse as the child grows older. Happy children don't plan to use bombs or commit mass shootings.

[LWolf]

14. One of the hardest things

about my profession is working with unhappy kids, and having no way to help. We have a few resources, which we certainly stretch past their limits. In the end, when the source of unhappiness is not at school, but in the home, most of the time we can't do anything about it.

And that unhappiness develops into dysfunctions that follow them for the rest of their lives.

I'm interested in something that would be more effective intervening in problematic home situations. I think it would have to be much heavier on the side of support than punishment to get the adults to accept it.

[In_The_Wind]

17. Once we (CPS) identified a problem in a home we tried teaching parenting skills.

It's a long slow process.

In my opinion: When a family becomes away that social workers will be checking in on unscheduled visits, it help.

I believe that may be the motivation for a low fine to the parents. Pressure for positive chance rather than punitive damages.