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Question: why would terrorists & drug organization members get verizon phones? (Original Post) DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 OP
for the same reason gun lovers/ NRA don't want to have a national data base graham4anything Jun 2013 #1
A gun registry seems so quaint right about now. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #4
That's probably the only warrant Greenwald could get his hands on. randome Jun 2013 #2
You mean like the no-contract phones they sell at Wal-Mart? zbdent Jun 2013 #3
Because they are not smart treestar Jun 2013 #5
Really? So it was just dumb clucks who perpetrated 9/11? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #10
Their brilliance was in the idea treestar Jun 2013 #11
Like my dating cell phone? lindysalsagal Jun 2013 #6
If Ya Think... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #7
Because they get a great deal on the "family" plan think Jun 2013 #8
It's not about who provides the phones per se... jberryhill Jun 2013 #9
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. That's probably the only warrant Greenwald could get his hands on.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:59 AM
Jun 2013

There are likely other warrants for other carriers and other divisions of those carriers.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Because they are not smart
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jun 2013

Or might not be.

If Tamerlan had any brains he would have planned a route to the bomb site that would avoid videocameras. Plus left the area quietly rather than start a gun battle with police. Insisted little brother wear sunglasses. We could still be looking for him now.

And he could have had more chances to make us pay for our meddling in the Middle east!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
10. Really? So it was just dumb clucks who perpetrated 9/11?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jun 2013

No matter whodunit, they weren't stupid.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Their brilliance was in the idea
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:41 PM
Jun 2013

Knowing we would not suspect this until it had been done. And of course their willingness to kill themselves.

Even so, many here argue they could have been caught if Bush had paid attention. Quoting the brief that bin Laden was intent on striking in the US. Spy methods would have been used to figure out that information.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. If Ya Think...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jun 2013

...it's only Verizon phones that the NSA is datamining, I've got some quicksand to sell ya. Thanks to FISA laws they can put their tenacles on virtually all electronic communications. Even "throw away" phones need to access a network owned by one of the major companies and that number/IP address can and will be mined. Some of that shows up every month on that subversive thing called your phone bill. Going online or on the phone is like walking out the front door...expect your actions are and will be tracked by many entities...

 

think

(11,641 posts)
8. Because they get a great deal on the "family" plan
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jun 2013

And of course they trust the US Govt not to spy on them. And they never read the news. And most terrorists are environmentalists also so they would never be caught dead with a disposable phone....

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. It's not about who provides the phones per se...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jun 2013

It's about who runs the cell towers and switching infrastructure.

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