Obama approval rating among Democrats

[arely staircase]

is 83 percent.

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job2.htm#CBS

[morningfog]

1. Ultimately, that is all that matters, right?

[emulatorloo]

2. No, but it shows what a bubble DU is

Too many people think DU represents reality or real world democrats.

It doesn't - we are a very rarified group here, self-selected.

Lets not make the same mistake the freepers do - confusing a minority opinion for a majority one.

[morningfog]

5. I don't give a shit what DU represents. That, too, really doesn't matter to

any of the discussions of right and wrong.

[tridim]

13. That, is why DU sucks lately.

Back in the day DU'ers gave a shit about the integrity and quality of our forum.

[morningfog]

14. I care about integrity, but not about representativeness

of a consensus. You shouldn't either. Otherwise you could just leave comments on DNC and WH websites.

[emulatorloo]

16. Been here since 2003 and yes it sucks more

Mostly because it is being dominated by a handful of very loud shit-stirrers, nixon-style rat-fuckers, and Rove-paid "fake progressives" whose main interested is derailing real discussion.

Hyperbole, false narratives, half-truths and shoving words into people's mouth. Divide and Fucking Conquer. Ulitimate goal - Complete Republican Control so they can finish looting the country.

[Itchinjim]

20. +1G

[billh58]

26. +100

Too true.

[liberal_at_heart]

40. The democrats do it too.

You think the democrats weren't pushing buttons focusing on the war against women. I'm tired of social issues being the only thing democrats focus on. Education is my number one issue, and the only solution democrats have come up with is privatization. I fell for the manipulation of the focus on the war on women this last election. Don't be so sure I will fall for the same pressure next time. Education is my number one issue and I am fed up with democrats ignoring the issue.

FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS!

[asjr]

44. I can't believe you said Democrats' solution

is privatization on education. Pres. Obama didn't manipulate the focus on the war on women. Where have you been?

[liberal_at_heart]

46. Experts are studying his campaign calling it the most successful campaign in history.

You think that was an accident? His campaign staff knew each and every demographic they were going after and knew exactly how to target them and get them to vote. And yes the democrats' solution to education is privatization. Instead of fully funding public schools to fix the problems that are there they are funding charter schools who billionaires get to profit from. And the government is telling schools if they want funding they have to get a certain score on state standardized testing. You would think that if a school is struggling you would send them more resources especially considering the reason most of them are failing is because they are underfunded in the first place. But no, if you are a poor school and underperform on standardized tests you get less money. How is that helping our public schools?

[Skidmore]

41. Soooo on target.

And you know who they are when arrive too.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. Been here since 2001, and I think you just implied all sorts of things about me

...merely because I'm not as willing as some to watch the Constitution get raped.

[emulatorloo]

55. No, not really.

Don't think our paths have crossed before.

I have in mind posters like the departed BetterBelieveIt, who generated at least 6 or 8 original posts per day.

Hatchet jobs on Democrats, based on lies, half-truths, innuendo. Not a single one of his/her posts would survive a fact check, and she never ever said one single thing bad about Republicans.

Loud, full of hyperbole, shoving words into other peoples mouths, and tons of original posts spreading false narratives and disinformation.

Eventually he screwed up and started posting right-wing sources. Such a transparent fake leftist troll that admins led her to the door.

As I say, there are a handful here following that model - large number of daily original posts, false narratives about Democrats, and not a damn thing ever said against a Republican.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

59. Thank you. n/t

[Andy823]

49. Couldn't have said it better

"...it is being dominated by a handful of very loud shit-stirrers, nixon-style rat-fuckers, and Rove-paid "fake progressives" whose main interested is derailing real discussion."

I haven't been here as long as you, but I noticed the same kind of crap back in 2010, but this year it seems to be starting earlier, and is worse! I keep asking myself if all these people who are posting that the government is spying on them actually believe it? Why in the world would the government want to listen in on the average american in the first place, are these people who believe this actually living such an exciting life the government is tapping their phones?

I think I will go pull weeds in my garden now because my life is actually not very exciting!

[olddots]

61. I agree

wish I didn't but I agree

[Seeking Serenity]

30. Back in the day, DU was united behind one concept

Anti-Bush. No matter the divergent views the progressives or DLC Democrats had on discrete issues, they could all come together on anti-Bush. Plus, it was a lot easier being in the minority party where all we had to do is bang on the walls from the outside.

Well, Bush ain't in office any more. And the issues of governing are a lot harder than just being in opposition. And now the fault lines between the "my party, right or wrong" and the "my principles, I don't care who's in office" camps are becoming more magnified.

[liberal_at_heart]

42. You're absolutely right. "hey, at least we're not that other guy" no longer is enough.

[burnodo]

35. back in the day, DUers gave a shit about warrantless wiretapping

now, not so much

[Pirate Smile]

43. This is the exact fucking problem - it is NOT warrantless AND it is NOT wiretapping.

[Cha]

51. Yeah, the Ignorance abounds.. case in point.

[cherokeeprogressive]

7. I guess it begs the question; are DUers smarter than average democrats?

Hmmmm. Interesting.

[emulatorloo]

11. Dunno, are some freepers smarter than average Republicans?

I can't make that judgement.

[still_one]

53. I doubt it. Most folks in the country are middle of the road. Whichever party influences that

Demographic comes out ahead

If I go to a left or right forum I would like to think most people realize the views do not necessarily represent the general populous

[arely staircase]

4. what the people think

in a democracy, i suppose it is important. all that matters, absolutly not. but pretty important, no?

[Cha]

48. That's your opinion.

[burnodo]

3. May 23, 2007

Bush approval among Republicans ~75%

[arely staircase]

6. problem is not near as many people call themselves republican

so 75 percent of republicans is a lot fewer americans than 83 percent of dems.

[burnodo]

8. spin aside, what was the point in posting this thread?

Was it to silence the dissenters by showing their opinion is in the minority?

[arely staircase]

19. is it silencing you?

[burnodo]

24. I see you didn't answer the question

nt

[arely staircase]

28. of course i didn't, the question is absurd

funny you take offense, though, at the posting of a good poll for the democratic president here on democraticunderground.

[burnodo]

29. the question is absurd?

"Why you posted this thread" Hmm. Doesn't seem absurd to me.

[arely staircase]

31. extremely absurd

but as democrats we can both be happy about this poll right?

[burnodo]

32. his approval has probably been about the same among Democrats since Jan 2009

why did you post this thread? what did you intend to accomplish? The data is old. The data is consistent and not newsworthy. Why did you post this thread?

[arely staircase]

36. old? it is the most current poll available

and my reason for posting was so democrats like you and i could celebrate these great number for our president.

[burnodo]

38. riiight

i believe that

[arely staircase]

39. oh and

welcome to DU

[burnodo]

47. Thanks!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

50. Then are you able to elucidate why you posted the OP?

Or do you often post with no real idea of what you're getting at?

Games aside, the obvious reason you posted the OP was to create a bandwagon effect against those who disagree with a secret domestic surveillance program. If you'd care to put forth a less obvious motivation, please do so.

[arely staircase]

63. to share the good news of the president's continuing popularity with fellow democrats

why you think that is an odd thing to do on a democratic message board is an interesting question.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

64. There we are. Let's make it about me instead.

You've found me out. I'm a deep-cover plant who signed up in 2001, just so I could eventually ask why you're touting approval numbers at this particular juncture in time.

When you'd rather make this about my perceived character instead of the matter at hand, it doesn't really bode well for your argument.

[burnodo]

65. That doesn't seem to affect him/her

It's ALWAYS about those criticizing Obama, not about Obama and his actions

[arely staircase]

66. makes your question even more puzzling

and don't the president's numbers look good!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

70. The President's numbers look awful. Have you seen them?

The President's numbers:

-Number of Americans the President is potentially spying on, with no plans to stop: ~300,000,000
-Number of years the President wanted to keep this secret from the targets of the spy program: 25
-Number of judges involved in signing a warrant for the largest dragnet in the history of dragnets: 1
-Number of FISA requests in calendar year 2012: 1789
-Number of FISA requests approved in calendar year 2012: 1789
-Number of public debates about the ongoing use of NSA surveillance: 0

[morningfog]

15. 90% in total supported bush after 9/11.

[BainsBane]

9. That poll ends June 4

Let's see what the next one says.

[burnodo]

12. I don't think it will change much

I've seen heated, angry, frustrated, over-the-top criticism of Democrats here at DU but everybody goes out every election and pulls the D lever.

[arely staircase]

21. does that mke you sad?

nt

[burnodo]

23. sad to think that people don't really expect much out of the people they support

He did what? He did WHAT?? HE DID WHAT?!?! It's ok...he's a Democrat.

[GeorgeGist]

10. > 83% of Democrats supported the invasion of Iraq.

[arely staircase]

27. roflmfao no they didn't

support for the war was never that high among Americans as a whole, much less dems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_popular_opinion_on_invasion_of_Iraq#cite_note-Polling_Report-2

[1-Old-Man]

17. 83% of turds float.

[emulatorloo]

18. So non-DU democrats are shit, huh?

[Bobbie Jo]

34. Bizarre, no?

I think we have a number of closet libertarians here. Just sayin'

[Life Long Dem]

37. What a rude comment to make at Democrats.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. Any polls showing how many Democrats approve of the government spying on them?

[Jamaal510]

56. Since you're not being spied on,

good luck finding that type of poll.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

58. How do you know that?

[Jamaal510]

60. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2971026

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

62. A rose by any other name....

from the link you sent:

"information about U.S. persons" may be "incidentally acquired" in such pursuits. Targeting is not the same as collecting; the program may "target" foreign persons, but "acquire" information on Americans

[sufrommich]

25. For as long as I've been on DU, it has never

reflected popular democratic opinion. It's just something to keep in mind when reading here,it has very little to do with anything,it's just a forum like any other forum and reflective of nothing but those who comment the most on this particular board.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. My, my...definitely I got into Jon Titor's time machine

I am reading the AOL boards circa 2003...

Almost the same talking points...just replace republican for democrat.

Free clue, it was wrong then, it is wrong now.

[still_one]

52. I suspect among independents it is above 50%

[burnodo]

67. and how many of them watch Honey-Boo-Boo?

nt

[DirkGently]

54. Ha! Stock Response to Obama Adjacent Critique For Which There Is No Good Rebuttal #3

Stay tuned for

#5 "This critique is demanding unicorns/ponies / pearl-clutching / poutrage."

#14 "This critique is a rightwing meme!"

#22 "We suspect an invisible racial component to this critique!"

#17 "This critique guarantees Republican success in the 20__ elections!"

#12 "Glen Greenwald once allied himself with a Libertarian; accordingly, critiques connected to him in any way are inherently traitorous / insane!"

And don't miss Newly Added Stock Response #241,

"Our civil rights have been screwed for YEARS now, so it no longer MATTERS!"

[YeahSureRight]

57. If Corporate Controlled Goverment is what they majority of Democrats and America wants

then they can have it, I will have nothing to do with it any longer.

I can be a selfish asshole too.

[Marr]

68. I sure wish you guys could decide whether DU (and liberals) are meaningless fringe groups, or

devastatingly powerful demographics who are going to throw the next election to the Republicans just by *saying* things.

[arely staircase]

69. what does that have to do with these awesome new poll nembers?

aren't they great?!

[Marr]

71. Oh, don't play coy-- your point was clearly picked up on by the second post your thread.

Obama has high approval numbers among Democrats. Democrats who are not happy with him are a fringe group.

Are you really going to pretend this was a random factoid you posted, completely free of context? Because if so, I'd just like to toss in a request for something giraffe-related next time. I like giraffes.